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Old 07-25-2005, 11:05 PM
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Next gen TL (or what the RL could have been?)

I saw one of these (Mercedes CLS 500) yesterday, my first thought was "2007 TL?". It has a similar line to the TL, but it is definately larger (and about twice the price).

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Old 07-25-2005, 11:11 PM
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I think (ok, guess might be a better word) that the RL is what they wanted it to be. The TL is supposed to be their sportier offering with the RL their more luxurious car.
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Originally Posted by ibeplato
I saw one of these (Mercedes CLS 500) yesterday, my first thought was "2007 TL?". It has a similar line to the TL, but it is definately larger (and about twice the price).


That is my 4 door dream car right now. I just love that car. I want the AMG version of it though.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:56 PM
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uhhh doesnt resemble a TL to me...
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:11 AM
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i love the new c-classes fukin amazing
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its a nice car. But MB and TL in different leagues. THe only thing honda could do is borrow the designs from MB...
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This car in person looks so much nicer...gorgeous lines and a nice ride
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:42 AM
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also its a coupe ... so you are kind of off the mark ...

I like the idea tho. Four door coupe!
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I priced one out on the Mercedes web-site, about $70 grand with a decent option package.

I believe that currently exceeds the available wife-acceptance factor. :-)
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:33 PM
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Dave Merrick has stated that while the current TL has an aggressive look, it isnt' aggressive enough. So what was holding the design back is up to speculation. Mr. Merrick has also said that there is going to be more differences between Honda and Acura designs with the latter offering more aggressive lines.

The TSX is nice looking but could have been more inspired (for lack of a better word) with the TL being a bigger version of the design.

So with the direction Acura is taking design wise we can expect to see more better looking designs but I'd be hard pressed if ANY Acura would have the beautiful lines of the new CLS Class. If I read right, Honda of America has less then 50 designers on staff. With the folks styling Accords and Civics (Honda's bread and butter cars) they may have a hard time "breaking out of the conservative design mode" when styling TL's MDX's, or RDX's (other Acura's are designed outside the US). What is interesting is that Honda still has a relationship with Pininfarina. Maybe the Next TL could be styled by them then modified a bit by Honda.
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Originally Posted by ibeplato
I saw one of these (Mercedes CLS 500) yesterday, my first thought was "2007 TL?". It has a similar line to the TL, but it is definately larger (and about twice the price).

One of my clients has the CLS55, which is cool and all, but I personally think that this car is fugly as hell. He did get it from Germany, so he got to go there and test drive his car on the Autobahn, and get treated to all this extra shit, which is cool.

It still looks like King Kong bent the car over his knee or something.
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does this belong in car talk?
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U-G-L-Y you don't need no alibi
that car is ugly yea, yea its ugly.

Just my
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Spazz
U-G-L-Y you don't need no alibi
that car is ugly yea, yea its ugly.

Just my
I tend to agree with you...not too fond of that car. A four door coupe? What's that about? Heck, the Maybach is a tank, but they understood that "coupe" means two doors when they made their coupe...damn thing reminds me of the batmobile, though...
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Originally Posted by chill_dog
I tend to agree with you...not too fond of that car. A four door coupe? What's that about? Heck, the Maybach is a tank, but they understood that "coupe" means two doors when they made their coupe...damn thing reminds me of the batmobile, though...
Well in time we will see what the sales numbers are. I would say that M-B isn't expecting this car to sell as well as an E or S Class as it caters to a different type of buyer. What M-B is doing is redefining what a "coupe" is. I mean look at the term sedan and the 330Ci or Toyota Solara can be considered two door sedans because of their passenger volume. This is why a big car such as the CL500/600 are sedans dispite two doors.

Plus looks aside, we all have to admit that it is stylish and looks nothing like anything else on the road. High style cars are going to upset some people as the look may not appeal to them ie BMW's 7 and 5.
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
also its a coupe ... so you are kind of off the mark ...

I like the idea tho. Four door coupe!
Um... I thought coupes have only 2 doors? What are talking about man. The regular CL is the coupe model. I think the CL is hot but im not sure about the CLS...
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
Well in time we will see what the sales numbers are. I would say that M-B isn't expecting this car to sell as well as an E or S Class as it caters to a different type of buyer. What M-B is doing is redefining what a "coupe" is. I mean look at the term sedan and the 330Ci or Toyota Solara can be considered two door sedans because of their passenger volume. This is why a big car such as the CL500/600 are sedans dispite two doors.

Plus looks aside, we all have to admit that it is stylish and looks nothing like anything else on the road. High style cars are going to upset some people as the look may not appeal to them ie BMW's 7 and 5.
I dont think it really matter how big the car is... If it has 2 doors then its a coupe, if 4 then its a sedan. Compare like a nissan skyline Gt-r and a IS300 or an EVO. The skyline is much bigger thatn the other two cars but bc it has 2 doors its a coupe while the other two cars are sedans. But sports sedans.
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4 door coupes, 2 door sedans, lets talk about it in Car Talk:
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/
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