jdm_94-07TypeS

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Hi,
Like the title say, I need an advice for what tranny fluid I should use in my tranny. I have a 07 TL-S with 103K. The tranny works very good but I want to help my tranny to stay working like it's doing it. Any comment is welcome.Thanks guys!!

sddale

There are a few really detailed threads on this subject. Run a search on "Redline Racing" and it should come up.

AMUA6

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jdm_94-07TypeS

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I already did a searchand didn't find an answer. My situation is different, i'm asking for a tranny fluid for HIGH mileage tranny.

Apparently Red Line is the best choice. Anybody with high mileage with a TL?? What tranny fluid are using??

jdm_94-07TypeS

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Thanks third person that recommend Red line.

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No difference in high mileage or not. You want to stay far far away from any atf labeled high mileage. It will have seal swell agents to stop leaks. The problem is it swells the internal rubbers and will cause a failure in a short time.

Redline Racing fluid for everything. Mix with Redline racing lightweight for cold climates if you wish.

103,000 is not even close to high mileage on these cars.

Souljah

Redline.

The-Chemist

Does changing the tranny fluid also change the fluid in the differential? 05 5AT

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Yes, they share the same fluid.

jdm_94-07TypeS

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Ok then Red line is the better choice. Let see where is the place to get it cheaper.Thanks guys!!

01tl4tl

whats the fluid change history on your car--ever done in the 103kmiles?

IHC- are you suggesting 3 qt or full changeout on the redline, and does it vary on trans with 100 which you do ?
(remember Im gen2 with the really crap trans)

for the car itself 100 is nothing- change timing belt, water pump, etc.. and keep driving
Engines proven to go over 200 and even into the 300kmiles!! lifespan
A gen2 dismantled at 200 still had the honing marks on the cylinder walls! like new~

sprousa

What about Royal Purple? I took my car in when it was still under warranty to a dealership. It is one I know and trust and they are pretty good. All the mechanics told me not to put the Royal Purple in because if I had transmission failure with RP they would void my warranty on the transmission. Which I can see them doing but. What are you thoughts on RP Transmission fluid?

jda123

This is the best price that I can find (shipped), can anybody beat it?
http://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-Racin...2433234&sr=8-1

The redline is probably the best. However, the RP or even Mobil 1 synthetics are miles ahead of the Honda ATF even though they do have some friction modifiers in them. I have Mobil 1 Synthetic in my cars for my initial 4x3 because I got 2 cases (minus 1 leaky bottle) at a damaged freight place for like $1 a quart.... and I would rather have a 4x3 with the mobil and then a 2x3 with the redline racing than have any residual Z1 in there.

I don't know where you would get the RP, but around here it is like $13-15 a quart. You can get the redline racing cheaper than than by the case at amazon and have it shipped to your house. I think that RP fluids are pretty good, but are very costly compared to the other choices.

You should never trust a Honda/Acura dealership, mechanic, tech, employee, etc. about anything transmission related. What have they ever done to earn your trust regarding trannys?

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I would have no problem running Mobil One or RP in the trans, as you said they're lightyears ahead of Z1. But the number one most important thing for the longevity of the trans is that the fluid does not have FM in it. I'm sure each brand makes a Type-F, just look for something labeled as "racing" or "super shift", etc. It will usually state on the back that it's a type F non FM fluid. In fact, I found the RP version a while back.

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Just searched the Mobil website and can't find a racing fluid. All I found was their standard synthetic ATF which looks like a DexIII fluid. So less FM than Z1, more than type F.

jda123

Oh yeah, the Mobil is a Dex Merc III substitute - I think that they make a Dex 4 version too. I had used it in my 1992 accord since about 1998 (it was different then, but still close) at recommendation from my transmission guy. I got 340K out of that tranny and it was still strong when I traded the car in a few weeks ago at 400K.

My thought was to use the mobil for 4x3 to get as much z1 out as possible. Then, a 2x3 with the racing leaving the higher quality Mobil as the residual base. I have 2 TLs and this gets expensive to use too much redline.

Anybody find a cheaper price? I just bought a case, but I would buy another one...

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That would work for sure.

If it were me and I wanted to get as much Z1 out, I would buy 9 quarts of $3 no name type F locally and then do a 3x3 of Redline. I would place more emphasis on the lack of FM than the quality of base oil.

This is just splitting hairs, either way will work fine and will probably be no different. You really don't need to get all of the Z1 out.

The Type S guys have it easy sinec they can do a flush through the cooler line using only 8-9 quarts to get 100% new fluid. I'm doing it this way next time since I have a cooler installed.

jdm_94-07TypeS

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Really I know nothing about the history of fluids in my car. I just bought it like a 3 months ago without any records fron a Nissan dealer in Orlando,FL,that's why I want to change it to start my own record in the car.

jdm_94-07TypeS

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Do you guys think that just removed the old fluid and add 3 qts. of Red Line is a waste of time and money??

jhumbo

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Unless the previous owner already put a good fluid with low FM (friction modifiers), it would definitely not be a waste of money. Since you don't know what the previous owner might have done, I would do it. It will greatly help your transmission to last longer. For more info on why you should get better fluid in your AT, refer to the following thread: Racing ATF

upnout

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just changed my ATF 3K ago and used the Z1 fluid, thinking 108K was too high of mileage to introduce new ATF w/out any problems.
My next change, I'm going to use Redline
good info

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Switching fluids will not cause problems. The only time high mileage is an issue is if you have never done a fluid change in 108K. If you already did one with Z1 and nothing bad happened, nothing bad will happen if you make the switch.

JackSampson

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I consider 103k on an 07 high mileage.

I did the pressure switches at 50k and the racing atf at 60k and my auto TL-S still shifts rough and sloppy. Good luck OP.

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It's a lot of miles to drive in a short time but it's not high miles for one of these cars.

You're the first I've ever heard about out of probably over 100 that have complained. Not a bad record at all.

supra98

i need to get my tranny flush.. So at 129.00 for the flush and how many quarts will i need of this?? And is this the right fluid?

http://www.autobarn.net/racing-atf.html

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That's the one.


9 quarts for a 3x3. If you're doing the cooler line method, I would get 9 quarts just in case. You will probably need 7-8 of them but if you don't refill at the same rate the fluid is coming out, you can end up with a mostly empty sump when you shut the engine off and need the extra oil.

supra98

sry, but can you explain what a 3x3 is? or will the transmission shop know all of what you said means.?

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You drain and refill 3 times. It holds 3 quarts so it's a 3x3. 3 quarts 3 times. Half of the fluid is left over in the converter so when you drain it you only get half out. So you drain and fill, drive it around for a minute so the old and new fluid mix and then you drain and fill again. You get a higher percent of new fluid with each drain and fill.

If you have a type-S you can pull a cooler line and let it go into a bucket. This is a far superior method but it can only be done on a Type-S which comes with a cooler or a base that has an aftermarket cooler.

Do not let them do a power flush!

supra98

sry i was reading the DIY ATF right after i asked. Thats what the shop was going to do is a power flush.. yes i have a type S. so i have to buy a cooler line? sry noob at this, but dont want to spend the 129.00 on the service if im going to spend over 90$ in fluid. Thanks for your help man, can always depend on you since you reppin B-town.. lol

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Lol. Since you have a type S, they can do it with the stock cooler lines. Most shops call this a flush.

The only way to do it right without hurting the trans is to do a drain and fill, pull one of the cooler lines off and stick it in a bucket. Start the engine and the fluid will start pumping out. Add fluid through the fill hole at the same rate it's flowing out of the cooler line until you see new clean fluid coming out of the line. Shut the engine off, top off, reconnect the hose, and you're done.

Do not let them use a machine to force the fluid through. There have been too many failures from them.

I would stand around and watch them. Make sure they use your fluid. I've caught shops trying to take expensive fluid home and filling with their cheap bulk fluid.

supra98

thx man! last question ( i swear, at least for this topic) I can do this myself if i have a buddy filling the tranny at the same time i have the cooler line in the bucket? is this cooler line too hard to access? I take it i dont need to mess with the drain plug and all that madness in the ATF DIY?

jda123

If you are not unequivocally sure how to do this with the cooler line, just drain and refill it 3 times. If you can change oil on your own, then you can do this.

You can do a lot of damage to your clutches if you get air in them on accident. The risk is not worth the reward, IMO if you mess it up.

myron

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haha This is a funny thread.

bro you pimping trannys? haha Just make sure they are lubed up and your tranny will be ok LOL

jdm_94-07TypeS

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i didn't get it, why you said is a funny thread???

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I wish it were that simple but it's not so. The Honda 5at requires a very specific fluid and flush to be reliable.

myron

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the way he said it was funny. He kept saying tranny, and to me it sounded like he was talking about his tranny, as in transsexual haha forget it this is way off topic

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Lol. I can't believe I didn't get it. I kept trying to figure out how you pimp a transmission.

supra98

didnt think it was that funny though...

jdm_94-07TypeS

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LOL!!! I think you need help, apparently the only thing that you have in you mind is this theme. Sorry the English is not my first language, next time I'll used the complete words for the understanding of all here !!!!!

LOL!!!

scottn3

Yes, this is possible. I did a drain and refill on mine a few weeks ago with no problems. You just need to use the fitting coming off of the filter. Just put a 3/8" clear tubing on this fitting and it will pump the old fluid into a bucket. Then use another tube to go into the fitting where the short black hose that was removed goes to and pour the new oil in there. Once you get to the fitting where the filter is, you will see what I'm talking about.

You will want to take it about 2 quarts at a time. I tried to pump out 4 quarts the first time and ran the trans dry for a second - so I would pump out 2 then add 2.