My wife almost died today..
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Originally Posted by markdesign
it was a direct trade. but it involved a lot of paper work and procedure. Acura hired a company called "IPS", stands for impartial services, to be the middle man.
Basically, i had to sign over the old car back to acura. then Acura signed over the new car to thomas acura, whom then sold it back to me with a promise from acura to be fully reimbursed.
the loan was with honda credit, so the paper was less troublesom then it could have been.
yeah, the mercedes was fully paid for by acura.
~mark
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Basically, i had to sign over the old car back to acura. then Acura signed over the new car to thomas acura, whom then sold it back to me with a promise from acura to be fully reimbursed.
the loan was with honda credit, so the paper was less troublesom then it could have been.
yeah, the mercedes was fully paid for by acura.
~mark
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I feel you made a good choice and handled the whole matter very well.
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Originally Posted by 1sweetTL
I know I am jumping in late here but this really bugs me.
Lexus = Toyota Acura=Honda Infiniti=Nissan
All are great cars but like all man made products, flaws are unavoidable.
Lexus = Toyota Acura=Honda Infiniti=Nissan
All are great cars but like all man made products, flaws are unavoidable.
With that said, contrary to common wisdom, Lexus is, in many ways, different from Toyota (besides price, warranty, and service).
The quality that Lexus demands from its suppliers is much tighter than for Toyota (5 times fewer defective components per million), even on the same parts.
See http://www.detnews.com/2004/specialr.../a15-70498.htm
Also, Lexus vehicles undergo quality inspections at several points (factory, delivery port, and dealer), and issues are addressed before the customer picks up a new car. Does this make their cars flawless? Of course not, but again, quality control is tighter, and defect rates confirm that.
I am not aware that Acura does anything extraordinary on their cars relative to Honda cars, except perhaps on the RL and NSX. I'm a big Honda fan and I hate to say that every Accord I have had has been 100x better than my old TL. So, I am more likely to agree that Acura=Honda than that Lexus=Toyota.
I'm glad your TL is trouble-free and I hope it stays that way.
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Originally Posted by markdesign
it was a direct trade. but it involved a lot of paper work and procedure. Acura hired a company called "IPS", stands for impartial services, to be the middle man.
Basically, i had to sign over the old car back to acura. then Acura signed over the new car to thomas acura, whom then sold it back to me with a promise from acura to be fully reimbursed.
the loan was with honda credit, so the paper was less troublesom then it could have been.
yeah, the mercedes was fully paid for by acura.
~mark
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Basically, i had to sign over the old car back to acura. then Acura signed over the new car to thomas acura, whom then sold it back to me with a promise from acura to be fully reimbursed.
the loan was with honda credit, so the paper was less troublesom then it could have been.
yeah, the mercedes was fully paid for by acura.
~mark
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For all the haters out there remember...very few ask how, they only ask if.
For example, did they take care of the problem, the short answer here is YES!
#247
Originally Posted by mickey3c
I cannot imagine someone buying the same car after having such a bad experience with the first one. Call it faith, lunacy, etc. I know I would not go back to the water so quickly... I know it might be a freak thing... but just the same...
I couldnt go back to the same car after going through everything that the original thread starter went through.
I would just like my money back and then just buy a different vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Astroboy
oh btw KJSmitty, Mark was not in the car, there is no way his opinion can be taken as any kind of fact, because it is only a second hand relation of the story. I think your reading skills need some polishing, not anyone else's.
you 3g TL guys are the biggest bunch of Cry Wolfers i've ever seen.
you 3g TL guys are the biggest bunch of Cry Wolfers i've ever seen.
Mark wasn't in the car, true, but he's a hell of a lot closer to the situation than you are. I'd be more inclined to trust his judgment of both his car and his wife's driving skills than yours, and I think most would agree.
Even if the ABS wasn't working right, the car should not cut to the left- it would just leave you without the benefits of ABS (correct me if I'm wrong!). It sounds to me like one side is engaging before the other, or is engaging with higher force. This is a severe problem, and if it were me, I probably wouldn't even bother investigating it too much- I'd take it to Acura, tell them what happened in detail, and then get the hell rid of it. I'd be more than willing to take a loss on it, if need be, if it's at all possible for you to do so.
A car only gets one chance to almost kill someone you love, in my opinion.
EDIT: you already did! Good man.
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Originally Posted by caha14
I'm a big Honda fan and I hate to say that every Accord I have had has been 100x better than my old TL.
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This is my exact experience. 6 trouble free Accords with over a million cumulative miles, 1 trouble-loaded TL with 48k.
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Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
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This is my exact experience. 6 trouble free Accords with over a million cumulative miles, 1 trouble-loaded TL with 48k.
Good to know that you got a replacement TL and that the family escaped without injury.
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