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Old 02-17-2005, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Contivity
First, bring your brother to a chiropractor
Second, contact an accident lawyer
Third, don't let your brother drive

My friend was hit from the back and he said he feel fine, but when he went to chiropracter, some x-rays show that he needs some treatment... My point is, you might not feel it at all until you get to your retirement age... BTW, I'm not a member of chiropractor association or anything like that...
Go to a "real" doctor first. NOT a chiropractor. I can guarantee you a chiropractor will find SOMETHING. They always do! If he is injured, let a specialist treat his medical condition.

Second, get a lawyer? For what? Who is he going to sue, his brother? Hey how about the people who were innocently driving along and had a car come into their lane? They hit him so let's sue them!

It's this mentality in this country that causes our car insurance premiums to cost thousands of dollars. Being in an accident should not be equivalent to winning the lottery. IMHO
Old 02-17-2005, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dvus555
Second, get a lawyer? For what? Who is he going to sue, his brother? Hey how about the people who were innocently driving along and had a car come into their lane? They hit him so let's sue them!
First .. try the decaf ...

Second .. I think that's exactly why he should get a lawyer .. he careened across a highway and others were involved in an accident.. he needs a lawyer not to initiate proceedings but to defend against them.

All of Contivity's recommendations are valid .. just because you're expecting him to sue doesn't mean that's what he needs the specialists for ...
Old 02-17-2005, 07:17 AM
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Wow, thats way worse than mine. Glad hes ok. Now kill him.
Old 02-17-2005, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ninjafish158
I appreciate all your input and that is part of the reason I posted this. I also just couldnt imagine him losing it like that just slamming the brakes going 70... Like you said Brewmaster, with ABS and VSA he definitely shouldnt have lost it. And he didnt get hit at all in his travelling lane, he got hit only after he crossed the median.

Your info says you're 22. How old is your brother?
Old 02-17-2005, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ninjafish158
And from what I just found out recently the police investigators said it seemed to be a very high speed accident. They studied the marks in the grass median and the skid marks and said the vehicle could have been travelling in excess of 85mph, so some of the estimates of 90-100 probably could be true.
They don't have to guess and estimate. The car has a few event data recorders, which they can get the facts from.
Old 02-17-2005, 11:32 AM
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was there any citation issued

did the bro get a ticket? I tried to read through all this.

The insurance company might not like the fact that there is a loss and your rates might go up..

Here in MA they make you put all drivers in the same household who might drive the car on the insurance (even as a deferred driver). That way if they are driving it and they crash you are covered. If they are not listed, then the insurance company can say not listed not covered.

The lien holders get paid off first so if you were one of those minimum down and 84 months to pay people, you might owe some cake to the bank... depending on the circumstances..
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Originally Posted by Brewmaster
First .. try the decaf ...

Second .. I think that's exactly why he should get a lawyer .. he careened across a highway and others were involved in an accident.. he needs a lawyer not to initiate proceedings but to defend against them.

All of Contivity's recommendations are valid .. just because you're expecting him to sue doesn't mean that's what he needs the specialists for ...
Just what I had in mind... The lawyer is to defend you and also help you process against the insurance company lawyer....

I would still recommend a chiropractor even if doctor say nothing, just to be on the safe side...
Old 02-18-2005, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Brewmaster
First .. try the decaf ...

Second .. I think that's exactly why he should get a lawyer .. he careened across a highway and others were involved in an accident.. he needs a lawyer not to initiate proceedings but to defend against them.

All of Contivity's recommendations are valid .. just because you're expecting him to sue doesn't mean that's what he needs the specialists for ...
The decaf is on order.

A lawyer to defend yourself against a possible lawsuit makes sense. I wasn't looking at it that way.

I still don't like Chiropractors. From my experiences with them, they are psuedo doctors looking to make a buck at the expense of anybody who can pay. Mostly the insurance companies, but in the end these costs get passed on to us.

IMHO.
Old 02-18-2005, 04:36 PM
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He could have been cut off while speeding, slammed on the brakes, saw there was no way he was going to stop in time so attempted to swerve away from the car and lost control over the median. If it was raining and you are going at highway speeds attempting to swerve last minute to avoid something, no VSA or ABS will be effective enough to avoid a spin out. I agree VSA will prevent you from spinning out at lower surface street speeds, but if you jerk the wheel going 70+mph you're screwed!

Just a scenario to consider. Don't condemn the boy yet. Find out the story of any witnesses - if someone is swerving in and out of traffic a witness would state that in the police report.
Old 02-18-2005, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ONAGER
although i am not an accident forensics expert, i have been in, seen and studied many accidents... there is no way he was doing 70... he was being yound and stupied i have been there myself... i have lost my 280zx on the street. i took a long sweeper and back out the gas hard in midturn.... the car swaped ends and that was that.... i was lucky i didnt hit anything but the median.... i drove away with a bent tie rod, and strut and a bruised ego.....

the tl renowned for its safety, just doesnt lose control... i have taken a fast turn in it, and as soon as the car stated to slip the computer pulled it right back in... he had the vsa OFF, i can almost gaureente it.... the cars computer can tell you all of that and more.... the airbag sensors keep track of everything.... speed, wheel angle, car position, system info.... acura might be able to pull the codes.... chk with them....
Anything that anyone says here about exactly what your brother was doing at the time of the accident is pure speculation. None of us were there to witness anything. Any car can easily skid across a grass median from 70mph and lose control once it emerges on the other side. If he swerved at 70 and hit grass, it's all over if he doesn't know what to do.

Let the professionals who have the data to make the proper determination tell you what was going on. And kick the fucking crap our of your pinhead brother! J/K
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