so cal eddie

I was minding my business at a stoplight and he pulled up next to me. I glanced at his car because it looked nice and noticed it was an r32. The light was about to turn green so i was ready to take off and since im 6mt the car rolled back some as i let off the brake. I took off slow but he floored it. Next stoplight he has window down and says he didnt know that my car came in a manual. He says lets see what you got. I said alright. The light went green and with his awd traction took off. By 40 mph i caught up and by 80 he was way behind me. 4 or 5 cars. I let off and he turned at some street. I think he was ashamed. Pretty funny though.

eddie

cuteguy1414

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Great kill..but next time time take it to the drag strip! Take care driving!

so cal eddie

I know. I know. I havent done that in a couple of years. I was nervous at the time and shouldnt do it again. We were coming out of the main city into the flat lands were the limit is 75. Thats not a good excuse though.

Go90go

Good kill. VW owners have a thing against Hondas. Next time you see one, tell him/her that their "fast" belongs in your car, .

~Cheers~

iforyou

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nice kill

'03TL-S

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Any mods done to the your TL?

so cal eddie

k/n filter with resonator delete, ur pulley stock size, and p2r spacer. Eh i dont think it was worth the money though. I didnt notice any difference.

swift22

everytime i hear R32 i think skyline...

f- VW

MurkyRiversTL

nice.... although it would be a different story against a modded gti. those things are wicked.

ILLustriousUA6

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modded anything's wicked.

nice kill bro

MurkyRiversTL

a modded radio flyer wagon isn't wicked lol.

BIGTUFFGUY

i beg to differ.



good job on the kill

MurkyRiversTL

) wow I stand corrected anything modded IS wicked lol.

nova_G

LMAO this has to be the funniest post ive seen this year!

erick3

wow really? i was under the impression that those things were a lot quicker! i remember test driving the gti...it seemed quicker, but a couple of weeks later i took one from 0 to 60ish...i walked him....?

anx1300c

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Those R32's are HEAVY. Very nice car though, IMO. Love the dual exhaust in the middle of the bumper. The times I've seen for them are ~6.4/14.7, so a 3G TL6MT should take it fairly easily.

08WDP

those R32 with 250hp AWD but weights @ 3547....thats almost as much as the new TL-S i own, but we get 36 more hp and 30+ more tqr.

Dave_B

In the right hand, the 1st gen R32 should be quicker. They're legit 14.2-14.4 second cars. With a couple of mods, they're 13.8-14.0 cars. They do require a high rpm launch, but they still move pretty good.

Manual Transmission

Any cars with good hands can get better results on a drag strip. So can the Acura TL 6MT cars hitting nearly 14 sec flat in the quarter and trap speed of 99~ 100 mph. So does the Acura TL 6MT. It requires high RPM launch to get in the optimal torque band.


See? This is what I mean. You always try to put down on Honda/Acura and make other manufacturers look good. The cars are not the problem, it is you.

Dave_B

Oh wait, I thought I was a Infiniti/Nissan nutswinger, not a VW guy? Are you really going to chase me around this forum and try to prove me wrong? If so, I look forward to making look really foolish.

"Put down Honda/Acura" to make all other manufactuers look good. My God what a weak sauce argument. Maybe you need to get over your own Honda/Acura bias and venture outside this forum to get a performance perspective of other cars. I'm a numbers guy. I live for this type stuff. The 1st gen R32 is quick car and when launched right, it's going to outrun most any stock TL 6MT in the 1/4 mile and it surely won't get beat by 4 to 5 cars by 80mph by ANY stock or lightly modded TL. If you've ever run at the strip, you'd know that a 4 to 5 car difference (assuming same reaction time) by 80mph is about a 1-second difference by the end of the 1/4 mile where the 4 to 5 cars turns into about 7 to 8 by the far end.

In the right hands and under stellar conditions, the R32 has done 13.8s@100mph STOCK, but I don't bring up the stellar times because they're not the norm. If you don't believe me check out Vortex.com.

I also know all about launching a lower torque, higher HP manual FWD car. I owned a decently modded NA Maxima with 210whp/205wtq that torque steered and wheel-hopped it's way to 14.3s@100mph with low 2.1 60 foots on 215/60R15 RSA all-season rubber with 5000rpm launches. Don't tell about what FWD can and can't do.

I'm not going to take any of your racing logic seriously until you actually get some honest runs under your belt. What are you afraid of? Maybe the reality that you're an inexperienced driver and your TL would probably run upper 14s?

Why don't you stick to the topic and stop wasting my time? Nobody wants to read this crap.

TylerT

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@ Manual Transmission: Cool your jets. Why do you have to be on Dave_B's case 24/7?

I mean sure, his previous posts have showed a little bias, but really he speaks the truth most of the time.

Give him a break

iforyou

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Don't you think what you just said can also be applied to the 6MT TL?

Like this:

"In the right hand, the 3rd gen TL 6MT's are legit 14.2-14.4 second cars (done by Jeff@TOV, multiple tests in C&D, CL forum, and the racing thread here). With a couple of mods, they're 13.8-14.0 cars (types-09, omprelude, etc)"

In other words, I'd say they are as fast as each other on the track. Not that you really care, but on the street, the TL would have the advantage if you forget about the launch.

Dave_B

No, no, I agree. It's just a lot easier to extract the most from the R32 assuming you're willing make the most of that Haldex AWD and risk a costly repair. Racing a high powered FWD car is just damn hard. Traction is like a light switch. With the R32, rev up to 5000-6000 and quickly slip the clutch and you might manage a high 1.8 60'. With the TL, you'll be doing amazing if you get a low 2.1.

F23A4

I am trying really hard to understand how you have derived ^^ from this:


From what I gather though, extolling the performance abilities of other makes (particularly when said make vehicle seems to be underperforming in a subject instance) is somehow a slight at Acura. Caveat: Those of us who are Acura/Honda fans but have not drank the Kool-Aid, do not hold that point of view.

F23A4

Even moreso with a FWD VQ35 than the J-series. But , the off the line hookup with the R32 is fairly impressive.

Dave_B

I drove my friend's 6MT 2002 Maxima at the strip and that wasn't a fun drive. Too little tire, too much front end lift, and wheelspin that's hard to modulate. It didn't require near the rpms to get off the line like my VQ30, but it definitely had traction issues towards the top of 1st and crazy torque steer going into 2nd. The torque steer was borderline comical on the street. It seemed to seek out the nearest road hazard. I don't miss all the problems with racing a high powered FWD car, but I do miss some of that "rawness".

so cal eddie

Wow!! you guys are going at it. The car I raced is a new gen r32. Its automatic with no option for a manual. When we took off he just floored it. He didnt hold the brake down, floor the pedal, and let off the brake. I would have heard him do that. If he would have done that it would have taken me longer to catch up to him.

Dave_B

The new R32s come with a sequential manual (ie not a true automatic). They have a launch mode, but it's still not as aggressive as launching the manual. The shifting is lightening quick, but the car is now too heavy. I believe it's about .2 to .3 seconds slower than the 1st gen car and really no quicker than a DSG 2.0T turbo. Regardless, I have no doubt you put 4 to 5 cars on him by 80mph, but I believe the guy let off way before you did because you're not going to close a gap like that and then put that many cars on him by 80mph, unless you're driving an 11-second car.

01clsstock

i have to agree with the nissan fan on this one. plus the r32 exhaust note is pretty sweet

iforyou

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Ah ic, yea, I agree, much easier to launch AWD if you are willing to abuse it.

Manual Transmission

+1. Exactly.......

Dave_B

Especially when you mod the exhaust baffle.