boomersooner02000

Came across this deal this morning since I was changing oil in my wifes car today. Save $20 good thru tomorrow. http://www.pepboys.com/sale_specials..._oil_change_cp

Sutitan

Or you can get the same deal at autozone for 29.99

Or you can find a ton of oil deals going on at current stores by following the link below
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...7182&t=1532155

No harm ment. Just pointing out a very very slightly better deal.

boomersooner02000

I didn't know Autozone had the same deal. Dam!

Sutitan

I never buy oil without reading that thread I linked to. There is usually always mobil 1 synthetic w/ mobil 1 filter for 30 or under (rarely under). I love getting those 5+ quart jugs because after a few oil changes, you get one free. Im at 3+ quarts of clean oil right now

LoveMyTL-S

My local O'reilly's add has O'reilly's 5 quarts of full synthetic oil plus a Mobile1 filter for $20.00.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/currentad/get.oap

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

Really not that great of a deal, considering regular Mobil 1 isn't a true synthetic anymore. You have to get their "extended performance" if you want the real deal.

Sutitan

Via the thread I linked to
5+ quart jug or 5 1-quart bottles Mobil 1 EP synthetic oil + Mobil 1 Oil Filter for $34.99

skh

...I'm confused right from their website it says it's a full synthetic...

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

That's a pretty good deal.

LOL, never believe multi billion dollar conglomerates. A few years back, Exxon Mobil sued Castrol for advertising their oil as being true synthetic, but lost the case, so they decided to save some money by downgrading their own product to a Group III oil, which is basically a hydrocracked group II. The old "if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" mentality. The Extended Performance version is a group IV full synthetic.

M1 is still a good oil, but I think I'm going to switch to Amsoil this spring just on principle. I've been running it in my bikes for years.

nfnsquared

Yeah, to clarify, Castrol was advertising their Group III oil as fully synthetic. After EM lost, they never told anyone of the downgrade of their M1 lines to a group III. Only consumer and independent lab tests confirmed the switch.

The Group III M1 oils are still good oils...

FYI, the M1 0w40 is a true full synthetic as well.

Sir Drake

Actually Mobil 1 is still full synthetic like mobil 1 EP(check your facts again)(mobil clean is not synthetic at all)...amsoil is over hyped over priced, personally Pennzoil Ultra or Royal Purpleis going to be better. Pep boys has RP filters which are awesome.

As far as the deal at oreillys for $20...its oreillys oil(cheap) with mobil 1 filter...and Autozone(Advance Auto Parts etc) doesnt run the specials all the time either...But usually 5 quarts of mobil 1 and mobil 1 filter is $30 and for mobil 1 EP and mobil 1 filter is $35...

I prefer autozone, if you have autozone rewards zone card...every $20 you spend you get a point...you reach 5 points you get $20 free to spend. No other store touches them on that.

TheChamp531

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Stop with the different color text and different font. IT HURTS MY EYES!

Mobil 1 Synthetic is not "fully" synthetic. Mobil 1 Extended Performance is Synthetic. Get your facts right... again.

Advance Auto Parts beats ANY auto parts store period.
Check there website for constant deals or slickdeals for amazing coupons.

They have 40% coupons and buy 100$ get 50$ off next purchase of a $100. Basically $150 for $200. They have tons of deals and usually cheaper MAJOR brand oil. O reily is extinct when it comes to synthetic deals.

nfnsquared

Sir Drake, it is you who needs to check facts. Regular Mobil 1 is not "full synthetic" (Group 4 PAO) even though EM calls it that.

Mobil 1 EP and Mobil 1 0w40 are true synthetic (Group 4 PAO).

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

I hate to add insult to injury, but I'm going to be the third person to tell you that you're wrong.

Sir Drake

Just for that I think I'll keep using colored text,
I don't know too many people (unless you a backyard mechanic or whatever) that goes in a parts store on a consistent basis and spends over $100.

Please give me your info(facts) and not someones opinion on why Mobil 1 is not full synthetic and why I'm wrong please let me know. You are sitting there saying that even tho EM calls it a group iv oil (PAOS), you are calling them a liar? There are rules and regulations to citing stuff thats legit and illegitimate (lawsuits). Maybe you should drive up to irving texas(since you live in houston) to their headquarters and tell them what you think "TheChamp531"

I don't think EM one of if not the biggest oil company is going to make up lies on their Mobil 1 lineup...we arent talking about mobil clean series.

Just to help goto www.mobiloil.com, click oils, click mobil 1. Read thoroughly....

Sir Drake

Yet, no proof of why I am wrong. Must be amsoil fans.

Sir Drake

Difference in mobil 1 vs mobil 1 ep is basically twice as much "supersyn tech" in ep.

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

Let's see if you can read between the lines:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...Base_Oils.aspx

Right, because it's so "proprietary" to divulge their base oil, LOL. Never used to be, so why is it now?

Sir Drake

EM even posted the question on their website for the people out their that think EM is out to screw them over, maybe not a complete definitive answer but...still no proof...try again...I read between lines, did you? Cause they dont want to publicly breakdown their formula to the public(which company does?) they are considered liars? Until someone can show me proof and not some bs...i rest my case...seriously...who else wants to jump on the hater bandwagon???

Tommys TL

i get mine done for free.... kinda
I have to pay for the air filter. I work at mercedes benz. I get the m1 free. I just get the tech guys to do it for me.
But all the stores have great deals on the oil

nfnsquared

I, for one, am not an M1 hater. I've used it M1 5w20) for the last 106K miles and 14 oil changes. It's a very good oil.

As for proof, that is more difficult to produce. XOM has done a masterful job of hiding the formulation switch. They used to brag about their Group 4 oil until they lost their lawsuit against Castrol. (At that time, M1 was indeed a grp 4 oil (a point highly touted in their advertising) and Castrol was advertising their Grp 3 oil as "fully synthetic". M1 sued them for false advertising and lost. After that, XOM suddenly dropped all references to Grp 4 in their oils. About the same time, someone named "Tom" ran a gas chromatograph on M1 and reported he found Grp 3 in the sample. How much Grp 3 could not be determined. This, along with the fact that M1 used to brag about the Grp 4 status of it's oil and now no longer does points to a switch to Grp 3 (which is significantly cheaper to produce, all the while maintaining the same price).

BTW, from a PAO arbitration case, in the US, it is now perfectly legal to call a grp 3 PAO oil "fully synthetic".

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

LOL, no one is asking them to "publicly break down their formula". It was a simple question as to their use of base oils which they had no qualms about displaying right on the bottle in the past. Funny how Amsoil and Redline have no problem divulging these "top secrets" to consumers.

Sir Drake

Yes there are several big name oils that are group 3 PAO with extra additives and can be considered "full synthetic". I prefer Pennzoil Ultra and they admit its grp3 as with castrol edge as with others, but for mobil 1 i cant see it being grp 3 while mobil 1 ep being 4, considering mobil 1 ep is for the most part the same(just more supersyn to withstand longer oil intervals)...at least we agree for the most part.

TheChamp531

iTrader: (3)

You want facts?

Very simple. My Uncle put the Mobil 1 on a Gas Chromatograph and it showed that it was mostly a mineral oil (AKA GROUP 3) with a good slug of AN and very low amounts of PAO.

nfnsquared

I'd like to hear the details.....

Sir Drake

Like I said I wants facts, not someones uncle playing around in the garage....c'mon on man how is that a fact?...did he fix the flux capacitor too?

Sir Drake

We are starting to agree on something at least.

nfnsquared

Sorry, wrong.

Sir Drake

Bitter eh? Didn't know agreeing with ur response of " I'd like to see the details" was controversial...my bad

TheChamp531

iTrader: (3)

Oh god. I'm not even going to try to argue. How is the Chromatograph not a fact? Its ok. IHC should chime in, but he's probably laughing. Just to make you feel better, you can check several board members that called Mobil 1 to confirm that Mobil 1 Synthetic is just GRP III oil and they agreed. They can easily say its synthetic when it starts from a mineral oil and then they add synthetic additives.

In Europe/Japan, they make the oil in the labs which are FULLY synthetic-- not just an additive.

Anyways useless to argue.



Thread went way off topic.

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LoveMyTL-S

Agreed. Let's get back on topic. If you have something to say about weather this is a good deal or not, then continue. But if you want to argue weather it's full syn or not then PM each other. This has been beat to death in other threads as well. I'm sure in the end, your going to use the oil you want to use anyway.

Osus14

Back on topic, it is a decent deal. But the autozone deal is better.

Sir Drake

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I'll drop it. I rest my case....sorry for the detour...

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