Me vs. 08 M5
 

I don't know where to begin. I was coming home on the LIE tonight and see a sexy, white M5 with wheels and a huge lip. Looked very good rolling. Anyway, I paced him for some time but didn't think anything would happen. I usually don't pick too many races, but I also don't get an M5 that often @130am.

I toyed with him, dropping it into 3rd and punching it for a second. I did it again at his side and still no response. The 3rd time we both went for it. This was from a semi-high 3rd gear roll. Top of 3rd we were side by side, dead even. Side by side into 4th gear, then mid 4th I started to creep on him :what: Shut it down at the top of 4th where I had about 1/2 car on him.

4 explanations:

1) Viagra....(limp mode)
2) The M5 owner got tired of going fast and swapped the 545 or 550 motor :no:
3) He was in a high gear or toying with me (tho he would've had to toy pretty hard)
4) The AXA Equitable 800lb gorilla was in the trunk

I KNOW my car isn't close to the level of an M5 in any way, shape, or form. Idk what to make of it.

LOL, you my friend, are one HELL of a driver. Who knows what happened..."a win's a win" right? PUHAHAHAH! GOOD KILL! I don't care what the reason is...

Maybe wasn't in M mode? Or whatever adds the extra 100 horses...but STILL 400 hp M5 > most cars on our level, but you SMASHED em' (of car of that caliber and winning by half a car lengths = smashing)

It's crazy but when it comes to the streets, the drivers count so a win is a win. Today I was driving with my friend and I pulled on a Crystler C300, I got him by a half a car length by 4th gear which then we shut it down. He rolled his window down and yelled out good shit and went his lovely way.

he was gettin road head :boink:

and sonnick took the oppurtunity to smoke him :rofl:

:rofl:

I wouldn't doubt it!

haha sounds like a blast! I forget which car mag did a run in the M5 in the 400HP mode but it ran a 14.4 in 400HP mode! 500hp mode would have been a different story.

nice kill..im assuming he cant drive and left it in "normal mode" not "m mode" or whatever the hell its called lol

LOL

IIRC, someone here also had similar results as you. He also pointed out that the M5 without the 500hp mode or M-Mode (i guess?) is a low 14 sec car which would make perfect sense.

14 second car with 400 hp? goddamn that thing must be heavy. what year?

According to title it was an 08. I think they started coming out with the latest GEN M5 in 2004 or 2005? The older ones had 400hp no more.

He was referring to the 08 M5. It does have 400HP. It only has 500HP when P-Mode is engaged.:thumbsup:

It weighs about 4k so even in p400 it shouldn't be a 14second car but idk...he was probably just screwing with you, because in P-500 (M-mode) an smg III equipped M5 is a low 12 second car. Our cars are more a match for an E34 M5(2 gens before).

^^ spot on.

Def, I understand your excitement man, but c'mon bro- I know your smarter than this. Its an M5---------an M5.

I know man! In my post I said clearly I'm no on an M5s level, but it was fun. I doubt the M5 is a 14 second car even with 400hp. I made it sound like 400hp isnt a lot lol. I love racing faster cars, even if they're playing around!

The M5 is one bad ride! However it is a low 14 second car in P400 mode. Check out this inside line test and see what they said!

http://www.insideline.com/cadillac/c...-benz-c63.html

Acceleration comments In default mode (P400, D3) this car is "slow" off the line, shifts lazily, and reaches 60 mph 1.5 seconds later compared to max-attack (P500S, M6) mode. With these M settings, the launch is an unpredictable orchestra of mash-throttle/rev/clutch-drop/tire-spin/lift/mash-again that's very difficult to replicate more than a couple times at best. One run of six felt correct and representative of the M5's true ability. Very harsh upshifts are quick enough to break the tires free, and the shifts are quick enough to keep up with the tachometer -- never missed a shift.
P500 mode
Performance
0 - 30 (sec.) 2.3
0 - 45 (sec.) 3.6
0 - 60 (sec.) 4.8
0 - 75 (sec.) 6.6
1/4 mile (sec. @ mph) 12.8 @ 115.1

Now add 1.5 seconds to the 0-60MPH and you get 6.3 seconds to 60MPH which my Auto Accord V6 could pull off haha! Now I know 4.8 seconds isn't the fastest to 60MPH that we have seen the M5 go in P500 mode but it definantly gives a perscpective on the difference between the two modes.

I see what you're saying with the power to weight ratio and a low 14 second M5 even with 400hp sounds rediculous but in P400 mode the M5 isn't meant to be a 1/4 mile racer. Thats what P500 mode is for. It has enough power to do the job but the engine isn't performing up to 100 percent in 400 mode.

i think it should switch to p500 mode when you floor it

Ehh, I think it's pretty bad ass when you press a button and your car gains 100hp, I'd rather press a button then it doing itself.

you know for me I think its stupid. The engine should just be able to put out 500HP when you want it and not by having to select a button . You shouldn't need a button to give you maximum acceleration. Just my opinion. Who wants to drive a M5 in P400 mode?

doesn't an 08 M5 comes in V10 500HP???

yes it does, but that's when the M Sport or whatever button is on. When the button isn't on then the V10 only puts out 400hp.

I don't know guys, I just like buttons ok... it's a fetish!!!!

LOL- i know dude- i would've done the same thing, the stars could've aligned, u hit your shifts- i mean..."Honda, the Power of Dreams". :tomato: now imma start "bullying" every M5 I see around here :thumbsup::tomato:

^lol

Maybe from a dig the 400hp mode of the M5 runs low 14s, but from a roll it still has to be quicker than a 14 second car. Either way it was fun. And damn is that car sexy :what:

i still can't get over the fact that a 400HP M5 is a low 14's car....thats crazy! why would they make such a huge gap in performance between the 400hp mode and 500hp mode

I agree. I know 100hp is a lot, but 2 full seconds in the 1/4? That's odd!

maybe if the M5 has a Dinan chipped then it wouldn't be running low 14's

Features & Specs

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• Specifications

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Weight
Unladen
4012 lb

Weight distribution, front/rear
52.2/47.8 %

Engine
Liters/cylinders/valves per cylinder
5.0/V-10/4

Displacement
4999 cu cm

Bore/Stroke
3.62/2.96 in

Nominal output hp/rpm
500/7750

Max. torque lb-ft/rpm
383/6100

Compression ratio
12.0 :1

Transmission
7-speed SMG gear ratios – I/II/III
3.99/2.65/1.81 :1

7-speed SMG gear ratios – IV/V/VI
1.39/1.16/1.00 :1

7-speed SMG gear ratios – VII/R
0.83/3.99 :1

7-speed SMG gear ratios – Final drive ratio
3.62 :1

6-speed manual gear ratios – I/II/III
4.06/2.40/1.58 :1

6-speed manual gear ratios – IV/V/VI/R
1.19/1.00/0.87/3.68 :1

6-speed manual gear ratios – Final drive ratio
3.62 :1

Performance
Drag coefficient
0.31 Cd

Top speed1
155 mph

Acceleration 0 – 60 mph2
4.5 sec

Fuel consumption
7-speed SMG transmission – City/Highway 3
11/17 mpg

6-speed manual transmission – City/Highway 3
11/17 mpg

Tires and Wheels
Tire dimensions (performance tires) – front4
255/40ZR-19

Tire dimensions (performance tires) – rear4
285/35ZR-19

Wheel dimensions, front/rear
19 x 8.5 / 19 x 9.5

Material
light cast alloy

Brakes
Front – diameter
14.7 inch

Rear – diameter
14.6 inch



for a 4.6 sec 0-60 mph how can it be running 14's ???

that is for the M5 in P500 mode. You need to research the M5 and you will learn that there are two different modes you can run on this style M5.

ohh didn't know they had a P500 mode like that a friend of mine has a M6 and i driven it seems to be very fast! but i didn't see that mode

Let me get my cam in and then see how I do against it in P500 mode.. I would say that once I'm maken about 410 to 415whp it will be close. That would put me around 465 to 480bhp...

From European Car magazine: With two factory power modes available (P400 and P500), we tested both to see the difference. It turned out to be well more than a 100-hp difference after all. Additionally, the P400 mode gives more of a typical V8-like curve, with all its peak torque at the beginning, and falling off up top. More akin to a racecar with wild cams, Sport mode, on the other hand, ramps up torque for a huge power surge by 6000 rpm.

With a 445 whp baseline, this BMW is nothing short of a rocketship. At 327 whp in the P400 default mode, however, a lot is left on the table should you forget to press the "M" button on the steering wheel.

Here's a notable comparision of an E60 M5 P400 vs 650i from M5board.

327 whp in a 4k car. there we have it guys

^^ Definitely makes sense now. Still has to be quick with that much power, even if it weighs 4,000lbs. I was reading on the Bimmer forums a couple ran an M5 in their e46 M3 and had similar results I did. Either it was really close or they inched it out.

OBVIOUSLY he wasn't in P500 mode, he would've wiped me all over the street. I kinda wish we ran again with him in P500 :yum:

that whp number explains the whole story! Well over 100hp difference! :thumbsup:

So it wasn't really an M5 when I raced it...more like a S/C TL rolling 3 deep! Lol.

If I'm not mistaken, the P400 is for comfortability and it helps save gas similar to the M3 and some current cars.

gimme a m5 ill rn in p500 mode all day~!