Leather Seat Cracking already?
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Leather Seat Cracking already?
We have had our Tl for a few months now and the driver's seat has some major creases, cracks, whatever you want to call them already. The dealer has ordered a new seat bottom and it is still on backorder. Does anyone else have these cracks already? Should I have it replaced now or just wait til it gets worse?
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Re: Leather Seat Cracking already?
JBRedZ28,
Sorry to hear that. Do you mind providing some photo for us? We'd like to make sure we talk about the same thing.
I have the wrinkles since day 1, and always use leather protection stuff to maintain them weekly, which is very helpful.
Tons of ppl say the good leather is never wrinkleless. But those crease could be enlarged and worse by time and frequent in/out.
Sorry to hear that. Do you mind providing some photo for us? We'd like to make sure we talk about the same thing.
I have the wrinkles since day 1, and always use leather protection stuff to maintain them weekly, which is very helpful.
Tons of ppl say the good leather is never wrinkleless. But those crease could be enlarged and worse by time and frequent in/out.
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Originally posted by JBRedZ28
Here is a pic of the seat.
Here is a pic of the seat.
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Originally posted by kws6000
Thats normal.
Thats normal.
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Originally posted by JBRedZ28
Here is a pic of the seat.
Here is a pic of the seat.
Is the black leather easy to show those crease/ridge?
As I said, lots of wrinkle since the day 1, I put some leather protection weekly to maintain my seats. If better leather would get more wrinkle, I have to take care of it as the way I do to my leather sofa or leather coat.
This would be helpful.
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Originally posted by USCGMoose
I think the dark colors show it worse than the lighter colors. You can only notice it on mine when you look closely.
I think the dark colors show it worse than the lighter colors. You can only notice it on mine when you look closely.
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Originally posted by greenseed
I may be way off base here, but personally I like those creases. Anyhow could the creasing be from the fact that the leather is "thirsty" leather cleaner/conditioner?
I may be way off base here, but personally I like those creases. Anyhow could the creasing be from the fact that the leather is "thirsty" leather cleaner/conditioner?
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Originally posted by greenseed
I may be way off base here, but personally I like those creases. Anyhow could the creasing be from the fact that the leather is "thirsty" leather cleaner/conditioner?
I may be way off base here, but personally I like those creases. Anyhow could the creasing be from the fact that the leather is "thirsty" leather cleaner/conditioner?
My crease is well under control after putting some leather protection on periodically.
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My Honda Pilot looked like that ONE WEEK after I got it....
And it has holes in the leather just like that one... the leather seats without the holes tend to keep better?
And it has holes in the leather just like that one... the leather seats without the holes tend to keep better?
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Originally posted by mrtech
Meguire's has a leather conditioner (Gold Class Rich Leather). The label says it does not make the leather glossy nor sticky. Has anyone tried it?
Meguire's has a leather conditioner (Gold Class Rich Leather). The label says it does not make the leather glossy nor sticky. Has anyone tried it?
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Can you apply the conditioner to the entire seat? I think someone said that only part of the seat is real leather and I'm just wondering what the leather conditioner will do to the other material???
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Originally posted by DavidNJ
My 00 S2000 has the problem, but not my 01 BMW. The leather in the Honda/Acuras is much thinner than the BMW...real cheap stuff. Makes you wonder why they bothered.
My 00 S2000 has the problem, but not my 01 BMW. The leather in the Honda/Acuras is much thinner than the BMW...real cheap stuff. Makes you wonder why they bothered.
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That is normal, you just need to care for the leather. Think about a pair of leather dress shoes. The first time you wear them they get creases lines that look just like your seats look.
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Mine looks exactly like the picture up top I have a ebony interior. The indentation where our rears go does not look normal at all. I might take my car in to get that checked out
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If that indentation is typical of what people are referring to as "butt prints" that does not seem right to me. I had thought people were talking about a general pattern of creasing in little hill and valley patterns that ARE normal for high-quality leather. That indentation just looks awful.
As for the cracks, they are definitely normal, but bear in mind they are much more noticeable on dark leather. My 3-year-old CL has tan leather (probably the same color as the 3gTL's parchment) and has LOTS of little cracks, but you don't really notice them in that color. And only minor butt prints, by the way.
I'm not a big fan of the whole perforated leather concept that all the automakers seem to be moving towards. What exactly is the big deal with that? More "breathable" some people say. I have no idea what that means. My CL's non-perforated leather feels great year round.
As for the cracks, they are definitely normal, but bear in mind they are much more noticeable on dark leather. My 3-year-old CL has tan leather (probably the same color as the 3gTL's parchment) and has LOTS of little cracks, but you don't really notice them in that color. And only minor butt prints, by the way.
I'm not a big fan of the whole perforated leather concept that all the automakers seem to be moving towards. What exactly is the big deal with that? More "breathable" some people say. I have no idea what that means. My CL's non-perforated leather feels great year round.
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Try this for your seats. It is one of the best conditioners on the market, and smells like fresh leather.
http://properautocare.com/pin-340.html
http://properautocare.com/pin-340.html
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Most automotive leather is not dyed, it is coated with a matching color to the vinyl in the interior. Then it is sprayed with a clear coating to protect it. They call automotive leather, "Protected Leather." The cracks you're seeing are in the coating, not the leather. It is not normal and doesn't reflect well on the process used by Acura. The high-end leathers used in a lot of European cars is Analine leather which is tanned vs. coated which wears much more naturally and evenly over time. You can tell the difference because tanned leather will absorb moisture while coated leathers won't.
Notice the wear patterns on the uncoated leather below vs. the picture originally posted:
Notice the wear patterns on the uncoated leather below vs. the picture originally posted:
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the new TL leather is MUCH softer than the last generation, or the ones on european cars... when i bought my couch, the salesman told me that the softer the leather is, the easier it creases or wears.. the rougher leather is more durable. so if u want softer ones then u have to sacrifice with durability
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Notice the wear patterns on the uncoated leather vs. the picture originally posted.
I still wonder if the perforations are partly to blame for some of the "butt print" complaints. Maybe perforation doesn't explain the cracks, which can be seen in the original poster's pic in the non-perforated area, but maybe it does explain the awful-looking indentation in the middle of the seat.
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Thats not normal among good leather, but normal for Honda leather.
That seat looks to be several years old compared to my mercedes, which is a 1996 model. Seats are mint looking still. Lexus makes great leather in the SC models, my g/f has one (2002) seats still look perfect.
That seat looks to be several years old compared to my mercedes, which is a 1996 model. Seats are mint looking still. Lexus makes great leather in the SC models, my g/f has one (2002) seats still look perfect.
Originally posted by JBRedZ28
Here is a pic of the seat.
Here is a pic of the seat.
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I'm not a big fan of the whole perforated leather concept that all the automakers seem to be moving towards. What exactly is the big deal with that? More "breathable" some people say. I have no idea what that means.
I'm not a big fan of the whole perforated leather concept that all the automakers seem to be moving towards. What exactly is the big deal with that? More "breathable" some people say. I have no idea what that means.
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Originally posted by CLGator
What make of car is that pic from?
What make of car is that pic from?
That is how my leather looks after three years. So if you're saying that pic shows how GOOD car leather ages, then Acura put GOOD leather in my CL. Acura
My last eight cars had leather interiors and the only one worse than my two Acura’s was a 98 Isuzu Rodeo.
And thinner leather may be great for coats and gloves, but there’s a reason manufacturers don’t use it. It wears too easily. The best high-end car leather is soft to the touch but not thin and pliable. I’ve never seen a Lexus, M-B, BMW, or Audi with “but prints” in the seats.
Also, all the talk of conditioning the leather as a preventative measure is kind of funny as you're actually treating the plasticsized color coating that's on top of the leather. I’m sure some of the conditioner seeps through the coating but not the majority of it.