This guy on my way home tonight in a newer model V6 Firebird thought that he would be a dick and drive 35 in a 55 until a passing zone, then gun it so I couldn't pass him. It didn't work out that way. As I got over to pass, I saw a puff of black soot come from his single tailpipe so I pushed my foot to the floor (we were only doing 40 max at this point) By 65 I saw him looking like this: in my rearview. He must have thought his detroit "muscle" could outrun any Japanese sedan.

BTW my car is a totally stock 02 TL-P

 

Sweet, you killed somewhere between a 16.4 and a 15.2 car.

 

Don't get me wrong, I have respect for true American muscle - but punks in V6 F-bodies or V6 Mustangs crack me up.

 

V6 Firebirds are slow as shit. I agree it is fun destroying them.

 

Yeah, it's gotta have the engine to back up the badge.

Good kill.

 

Yeah, V6 firebirds and Mustang are an absolute joke. It's a shame, they shouldn't even build those vehicle's with those motors, it gives muscle cars a bad name.

 

except new V6 stang could come close.

 

I agree...nice kill anyway, especially because he was being a jack ass.

 

240tq (right?) sounds like a big advantage over the TL, but the execution is horrible. See this streetfire video of several new Mustang V6 1/4 mile runs:

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...D56655FD06.htm

My TL would have no trouble destroying it.

 

v6 is that slow or is that guy a very bad driver?

 

It seems to be an automatic, so I'd say the V6 is just that slow. The manual should be quicker, but I'd still bet money on the TL. Kris's stock 00 TL-P with 175k miles ran a 15.01 at the track. That would be handing that new V6 Mustang its ass on a silver platter.

 

man...if the new one is that slow... than the last gen. v6 mustang must be a

 

Oh yeah it was.

 

stock 3.8 v6 mustangs are slow, but when modded they can be a 10-11 sec 1/4 car (+550rwhp\+600 tq ). check out the timeslips\dynopage on www.v6power.net there are many guys running twin turbos and superchargers. back in 1999 I had a 1996 v6 mustang, with ported heads cam, vortech v2 supercharger, intercooler, ported upper and lower intake manifold,and the car put out 370rwhp and ran in the 12s. v6 cameros\firebirds, are the same, slow stock but can beat alot of v8s when modded. The mustang was alot faster then my cl-s but the thing broke down every week end, plus everyone has one

 

But we're talking completely stock cars here. The J32 is simply a superior engine. A J32A2 6spd CL-S can post better timeslips than what I saw from far more powerful (by dyno numbers) modded 3.8 Mustangs. I saw one with something like 242whp, 257wtq and a timeslip of 14.8@90.5mph. That's getting smoked by a well-driven completely stock CL-S6.

 

A 98-02 Firebird, last body style, was a 14.7-15.0 car. The slowest would be a 93-95 car, they had the 3.4 and were like a 16.5 car.

My friend's 97 went 13.6 with heads, cam, gutted, and 12.3 with nitrous.

 

I have a friend who used to have an 01 V6 Firebird and it wasn't close to a 14sec car. It was in good shape, no known problems and wasn't fast at all. Maybe 0-60 in 7.5 on a good day 1/4 at 15.7-16.0 not 14.7-15.0.

 

honda is one of the few companies that can really get the most out of a V6 without forced induction. for christ's sake, even the new 3.5L chevy V6 is only putting out 211hp.

SSTS

 

The old 3800 Series-II naturally aspirated only made 200-205 and it was a 3.8L. Hell, even the force-fed one only made 240 in some applications.

Had more torque, though.

 

I have a ton of friends who had the last gen 3.8 V6 Firebirds, and the best was 14.7 with just a cone filter. But he was mostly a 15.doh car. One friend went 14.2 with a converter, gear, dr's, and some other stuff...

 

well my brother has a 1998 grand prix with a series II that he uses as a beater. it does have a nice torque curve in my opinion, but it's not fast at all. plus i think the exhaust they used on those cars sound like ass. but gimme a grand national with a 3800 series I any day and i'll take it

SSTS

 

I heard new V6 manuals do under 7 seconds, that's big improvment over last one.

 

i beat a v6 stang in my 99 3.0cl..(i/h/e) it was like 3 cars then he did a ricer fly by. what a homo.