Just hit 105k - Question about service
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Just hit 105k - Question about service
Hey everyone
I just ticked over the 105k mark, but I am currently unemployed and I'm concerned about blowing a $2k chunk in my savings at the moment. I was wondering if I have a couple hundred miles of leeway over 105k to give me time to find a job before I get the big maintenance?
Is there a safety margine on the 105K or is it necessary to get the service immediately at 105k miles?
I just ticked over the 105k mark, but I am currently unemployed and I'm concerned about blowing a $2k chunk in my savings at the moment. I was wondering if I have a couple hundred miles of leeway over 105k to give me time to find a job before I get the big maintenance?
Is there a safety margine on the 105K or is it necessary to get the service immediately at 105k miles?
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I haven't been putting much mileage on it. Obviously I will get it as soon as I find a job and have a secured income, I was just wondering how paniced I should be about driving the TL anywhere .
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The 105k kit is $200
the 3 seals are $60 total
labor is 3-4 hour.
don't get ripped off.
and IMO, you can hold off on the 105k service until you hear the timing belt tensioner lose it's tension and start tapping on cold starts.
the 3 seals are $60 total
labor is 3-4 hour.
don't get ripped off.
and IMO, you can hold off on the 105k service until you hear the timing belt tensioner lose it's tension and start tapping on cold starts.
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op i wouldn't worry too much about doing it exactly at 105k. as youre within a couple thousand miles you'll be fine. I wouldn't put it off too long tho
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<br />No, there is no service at 105K miles-- the TL goes by the Maintenance Minder in the MID.<br /><br />Yes, there is a margin-- service A4 is the timing belt/spark plug service and will pop up somewhere around 100K-120K miles-- but will count down from 15%, to 10%, then 5% before "service due now."<br /><br />The TL does not use the 105K mileage or time schedule for any services except brake fluid changes every 3 years-- everything is based on the Maintenance Minder.
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You're unemployed so you got time on your hands. Should be a fun little project. Unless you have to do it in the cold outside. F that. I'd say screw it and keep driving the thing. Doubt it's gonna give out on you.
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i was in the same boat as you. College student on a budget. I did the service at 150K so dont worry and no that's not a typo. i did it at 150K. However, my car is a southern California car and does not see extreme conditions and was also garage kept. Not sure if you have a 6MT or a 5AT but if you have a 5AT your car will only last as long as your transmission does. You can dely the waterpump timing belt service but YOU CAN NOT delay the transmission services. Also make sure the valves are adjusted when you do all the other stuff. It makes a huge difference on how smooth and fast the car goes. I felt like I was in a different car after I adjusted my valves and I did them myself ( first attempt ever) my TL feels so smooth now I can be going 80mph at a gentle 2k rpm on the freeway.
another tip: save up money and do the service right! some people out there just do timing belt, waterpump, spark plugs, and call it a day. Dont neglect the tensioner, pulley, valve cover gasket, valve adjustment, serpentine belt, and spark plug tube seals.There are kits on ebay that come with everything and all honda parts.
another tip: save up money and do the service right! some people out there just do timing belt, waterpump, spark plugs, and call it a day. Dont neglect the tensioner, pulley, valve cover gasket, valve adjustment, serpentine belt, and spark plug tube seals.There are kits on ebay that come with everything and all honda parts.
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This is a very heavily debated topic. If you look in your owner's manual, you won't find any specific recommended interval or mileage. As mentioned above, the TB should be replaced when the "4" shows up in the MID on your dashboard. I have a 2008 TL-S and just crossed 82K miles, but I had the TB replaced around 78K only because the car is coming up on 10 years old and because I have access to Honda certified master mechanic who does work on the side. I had the TB, water pump, belt tensioner and seals replaced for $400 in his driveway. I gave him the green light and he had ordered the Ainsin kit from Rockauto.com for about $190. Ainsin is the maker of the parts for Honda and the only difference in the kit from Rockauto doesn't have the "H" logos. The original belt looked practically brand new. There were no stretch marks or cracks. The only sign of aging, was the belt was starting to discolor (was turning brown) in places. My mechanic said that Honda "over-engineered" the TB and has only seen one failure in 20+ years
$2000 is on the very high end of the cost for this maintenance - even at a dealership. What else is included in the $2000 quote? If this is from an Acura dealer, call your local Honda dealer as they are typically less expensive.
$2000 is on the very high end of the cost for this maintenance - even at a dealership. What else is included in the $2000 quote? If this is from an Acura dealer, call your local Honda dealer as they are typically less expensive.
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Speaking out of both sides of my mouth at the same time:
- The timing belt kit, water pump and all are the same as the one on my 2001 V6 Accord; that carries a Honda recommendation of 7-Years/105,000 miles, whichever comes first.
- A standard engineering practice for determining limits is to exceed them in testing and then halve the average failure point; said another way, Honda built in a lot of margin of error on the 105,000 mile recommendation.
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^ yep
OP you should be fine
But as another member said.. the kit is a couple hundred.. throw in another $200 for a DeWalt Impact Gun and Lisle Honda Crank Socket.
Do the Timing belt yourself.. there's a nifty DIY here.
Then... put an ad in CL offering to pop crank bolts / axle nuts / you name it for $20.
Happy endings for another $20 (twenty dollars is twenty dollars)
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OP you should be fine
But as another member said.. the kit is a couple hundred.. throw in another $200 for a DeWalt Impact Gun and Lisle Honda Crank Socket.
Do the Timing belt yourself.. there's a nifty DIY here.
Then... put an ad in CL offering to pop crank bolts / axle nuts / you name it for $20.
Happy endings for another $20 (twenty dollars is twenty dollars)
Send royalty check to Majofo (20%)
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I’m at 88k on my 07 type S and I just had mine done, Ive heard at 7 years or 105k miles. So it’s really up to u but don’t be surprised if u find out more problems than just doing the standard service so I would take it in just to be safe. But good luck to u
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Bought it at 33K and traded it in at 188K. Besides tires, brakes, and oil changes, I did nothing to it. Didn't care. Drove it hard the entire time. Incredible quality or dumb luck....
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When I had my trans am, belt conditioner spray kept all the belts on a chevy 305 good as new throughout the time I had that car. Typically I thought anything of that nature was crap (like the trans slip-stops, coolant additives, etc....which are all TRULY bad for your car) but the belt spray (in my experience) significantly helped - and could be a good "band-aid" if you're on a budget.
Not sure if the timing belt on a TL would benefit from such a thing....but if not, I'm sure I will promptly be told it is a bad idea by someone else
Keep in mind, if your belt is already showing signs of cracks or extensive wear, a conditioner will not do anything, as they are meant to be applied to defect-free belts to prolong their life.
Not sure if the timing belt on a TL would benefit from such a thing....but if not, I'm sure I will promptly be told it is a bad idea by someone else
Keep in mind, if your belt is already showing signs of cracks or extensive wear, a conditioner will not do anything, as they are meant to be applied to defect-free belts to prolong their life.
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As already alluded to, these TBs have proven to be far more hardier than the tensioner. As long as the tensioner is still functioning properly, these belts last well beyond 105K (a "4" on the MID)...
You can push the limits with little worry if you need to.
You can push the limits with little worry if you need to.
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i was in the same boat as you. College student on a budget. I did the service at 150K so dont worry and no that's not a typo. i did it at 150K. However, my car is a southern California car and does not see extreme conditions and was also garage kept. Not sure if you have a 6MT or a 5AT but if you have a 5AT your car will only last as long as your transmission does. You can dely the waterpump timing belt service but YOU CAN NOT delay the transmission services. Also make sure the valves are adjusted when you do all the other stuff. It makes a huge difference on how smooth and fast the car goes. I felt like I was in a different car after I adjusted my valves and I did them myself ( first attempt ever) my TL feels so smooth now I can be going 80mph at a gentle 2k rpm on the freeway.
another tip: save up money and do the service right! some people out there just do timing belt, waterpump, spark plugs, and call it a day. Dont neglect the tensioner, pulley, valve cover gasket, valve adjustment, serpentine belt, and spark plug tube seals.There are kits on ebay that come with everything and all honda parts.
another tip: save up money and do the service right! some people out there just do timing belt, waterpump, spark plugs, and call it a day. Dont neglect the tensioner, pulley, valve cover gasket, valve adjustment, serpentine belt, and spark plug tube seals.There are kits on ebay that come with everything and all honda parts.
Can anyone else confirm doing valve adjustment lowers your RPM? So that means you’d gain more MPG?When I’m going 80 my car is around 2800 rpm almost 3
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Uhhh, are you serious? What does power and valve settings have to do with gearing (which is what determines the RPMs in any gear at any speed)?
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I did mine just about 2 months ago. My car was at 132K. I got the car when it had 97k. The car was an one-owner from AZ, and I am driving it in Chicago now. I held it long enough to do the timing belt and other stuff ($680 after parts and labor).
1. Aisin TKH-002 Engine Timing Belt Kit with Water Pump ( ) (The kit comes with timing belt, water pump with rubber gasket, idler pulley, tensioner pulley, and hydraulic tensioner)
2. Mitsuboshi Serpentine Belt 6PK2135
3. HONDA OEM-Engine Coolant Thermostat 19301P8EA10
4. Genuine Honda Parts OL999-9011 Blue Type 2 Coolant 2 Gallons 50/50
5. Got the spark plugs changed at 100K( Might change it soon)
1. Aisin TKH-002 Engine Timing Belt Kit with Water Pump ( ) (The kit comes with timing belt, water pump with rubber gasket, idler pulley, tensioner pulley, and hydraulic tensioner)
2. Mitsuboshi Serpentine Belt 6PK2135
3. HONDA OEM-Engine Coolant Thermostat 19301P8EA10
4. Genuine Honda Parts OL999-9011 Blue Type 2 Coolant 2 Gallons 50/50
5. Got the spark plugs changed at 100K( Might change it soon)
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