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Old 09-26-2007 | 11:19 AM
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Im depressed!!!

so i saw this car on wensday on a local website that has cars for sale.. i see a black on black TL 05 that i fell in love with.. I sent him an email, and while i was at the driving range hitting some golf balls at night, he calls me up and tells me to come in the next day evening to take a look at the car.

Here I am all happy I get to go see a car that ive been looking for, for over 2 weeks now. So i get there and hes like OH hey MR. S, um we dont have the car, its at the body shop getting the bumper painted it had a scratch. no biggie, so i gave him 200$ and said dont sell the car until i see it. I also ask him if the price is nego, and he says NO

next day, i call up CAA (the american version of AAA), and one of the benifits of being a member, you get the market value on any car. So i called and asked what he market value of an 05 TL is with navi, 5speed auto, under 50 000km. he tells me 29 300$. at that point i had the BIGGEST smile on my face, thinking im gonna nogotiate the fukc out him.

I get there on monday, test drive the car ( i LOVE it), and for some reason it was squeeking(sp?) after every bump. we get out, i said id offer 30g's cause i know what the value is of the car, he says no, then 2 min later he tells me to have a seat at his desk. he comes back and says 32 900. now heres the thing. my budget is 35k after taxes. In my beautifull province of quebec, we have to pay 2 taxes at the stealership. 1 tax of 6.5 and one of 7%. if you havent noticed, thats just under 4500$ in taxes.. i told him if it wasnt for the taxes i would be happy to take the car right away.

i offerd 31 500, he said no, i said peace and went home..

i really need a new car quick lol, its a huge piss off and i hope i find a private seller really quickk

sorry for the long rant

Old 09-26-2007 | 11:48 AM
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oh wow..I was gonna say $30k USD for an 05 TL? NUTS!! haha but yeah now I understand haha Canadian Dollars. So what's up withe the suspension? IDK if you'd want to buy a used car with suspension problems and then have to deal with it later? 1k usd=struts and springs probably
Old 09-26-2007 | 11:49 AM
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Don't worry about it ProblemChild, if you take your time to look for it I'm sure you can find one thats worth waiting for. I don't know about Canada, but in the U.S. you can get a brand new TL for your budget and then some. Hey good luck on your search.
Old 09-26-2007 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ballinfizzle89
oh wow..I was gonna say $30k USD for an 05 TL? NUTS!! haha but yeah now I understand haha Canadian Dollars. So what's up withe the suspension? IDK if you'd want to buy a used car with suspension problems and then have to deal with it later? 1k usd=struts and springs probably
It is pretty nuts when the Canadian Dollar is damn near the value of the USD, as of now.

Find a different car. That guy was an ass.
Old 09-26-2007 | 12:21 PM
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I would call and ask to speak to the gm of the dealer. He doesn't want to go lower bc he thinks he can sell it for more and have a higher comission. I buy a new car every 2-3 years so I pretty much know how the game works. Give the gm or sales manager a call and ask them if they will reconsider your deal. That is of course if it's really the car you want and you willing to take it with the possible suspension problem
Old 09-26-2007 | 12:22 PM
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HEY buddy, Lache pas les recherche...j'ai pogné une 2004 6sp Dynamic a Toronto pour 23000$CDN. est topshape pi jviens d'aprendre qu'elle encore sur la Garantie après 4 mois de pure plaisir
J'ai 120 000km et il me reste encore 40 000 ca garantie chui mort de rire man. Le char est vraiment une perle, ca vau la peinne de chercher. Regarde pas au Québec c'est trop chere, si tu veux jpeux t'aider a en trouver une ca va me faire plaisir...

Sorry for the french everybody, I will translate if somebody is offended...
Old 09-26-2007 | 12:31 PM
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Yes, please translate! How dare you offend a fellow NBP owner.
Old 09-26-2007 | 12:45 PM
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well its good you are not succumbing into extortion and you are taking your time researching cars and dealers. good for you
Old 09-26-2007 | 01:00 PM
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HEY buddy, Lache pas les recherche...j'ai pogné une 2004 6sp Dynamic a Toronto pour 23000$CDN. est topshape pi jviens d'aprendre qu'elle encore sur la Garantie après 4 mois de pure plaisir
J'ai 120 000km et il me reste encore 40 000 ca garantie chui mort de rire man. Le char est vraiment une perle, ca vau la peinne de chercher. Regarde pas au Québec c'est trop chere, si tu veux jpeux t'aider a en trouver une ca va me faire plaisir...



English version:

Hey buddy, keep the search going. I found a 04 6sp Dynamic in Toronto for 23 000$CDN. She's topShape and I even find out yesterday that I still had the extended waranty on it for 40 000km left .

I have now 120 000 KM, the carl is a jewel its worth the shot 200%. Don't look in the Québec province for used cars they're to expansive. If you want 2 I'll help you find one....

LOL how could I offend an NBP owner since I am ONE
Old 09-26-2007 | 01:08 PM
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Isn't Quebec and Toronto close to New York? Can't you buy from upstate NY to save a little on taxes?? Or is there a restriction because it's another country and import laws might apply? Isn't it like Americans crossing into Canada and buying cheaper prescription drugs? LOL
Old 09-26-2007 | 01:13 PM
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Ya its kinda the same, but since the DOLLAR and CDN$ is EVEN, it would be a good idea to go shop for cars in the US...just don't know about the TAXES at the boarder....THOSE CDN customs can be real PITA sometimes....
Old 09-26-2007 | 01:19 PM
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^^^ If you buy in the US and then take into Canada- the warranty goes out the window.

To the OP- go elsewhere. Why buy a car w/ sqeeks?
Old 09-26-2007 | 01:29 PM
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I think you killed your negotiation right off the bat by giving them $200 and telling them not to sell it to anyone else without you looking at it first. Looks too desperate to me.
Old 09-26-2007 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ggesq
^^^ If you buy in the US and then take into Canada- the warranty goes out the window.

To the OP- go elsewhere. Why buy a car w/ sqeeks?

not for all companies.. I will be making a call tomorow to both Acura canada and acura america to see if the will honor a warranty if i tranfser a car accross the border..

ill be shopping around for 1 more week 2 tops. if not ill head down to the states

what sucks is that its in mph and its ugly lol
Old 09-26-2007 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VmtSquad
Ya its kinda the same, but since the DOLLAR and CDN$ is EVEN, it would be a good idea to go shop for cars in the US...just don't know about the TAXES at the boarder....THOSE CDN customs can be real PITA sometimes....
i was also going to make a new thread but ill ask here..

are all TL's made in japan or are they made in the states.. if its made in the states i wont have to pay extra duties
Old 09-26-2007 | 05:44 PM
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http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/mj/import.htm
Old 09-26-2007 | 05:48 PM
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Damn thats expensive for a used tl, i paid a little over 32k w/ taxes and title new for my 06 6spd navi!
Old 09-26-2007 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ProblemChild514
i was also going to make a new thread but ill ask here..

are all TL's made in japan or are they made in the states.. if its made in the states i wont have to pay extra duties
I think the TLs are made in OH here in states ..... good luck with you shopping!
Old 09-26-2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ProblemChild514
not for all companies.. I will be making a call tomorow to both Acura canada and acura america to see if the will honor a warranty if i tranfser a car accross the border..

ill be shopping around for 1 more week 2 tops. if not ill head down to the states

what sucks is that its in mph and its ugly lol
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...arranty+canada

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...arranty+canada

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...arranty+canada

Good luck.
Old 09-26-2007 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ballinfizzle89
oh wow..I was gonna say $30k USD for an 05 TL? NUTS!! haha but yeah now I understand haha Canadian Dollars. So what's up withe the suspension? IDK if you'd want to buy a used car with suspension problems and then have to deal with it later? 1k usd=struts and springs probably
Maybe its me, but the news yesterday said currency exchange rate is about 1USD = 1CAD so either way our neighbors to the north are over paying or we are getting some great deals since our dollar is so down. I also just looked it up on currenecy converters and it is pretty much equal right now.
Old 09-26-2007 | 09:58 PM
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Pourqoi tu ne cherche pas dehors La Quebec?
Old 09-27-2007 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithL
Maybe its me, but the news yesterday said currency exchange rate is about 1USD = 1CAD so either way our neighbors to the north are over paying or we are getting some great deals since our dollar is so down. I also just looked it up on currenecy converters and it is pretty much equal right now.
no mater what the exchange rate is, we will always be royaly fukt by any type of market or industry... a fresh new sti is what, 32k usd? guess how much its here in canada
52k

then add the taxes..
Old 09-27-2007 | 12:22 AM
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so maybe ill wait, and not buy a car from the states (new article)

1st Class Action lawsuit against Car Manufacturers


North American automakers slapped with $2B class action suit by new vehicle owners
Wed Sep 26, 2:13 PM
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By The Canadian Press

TORONTO - North American auto manufacturers have been slapped with a $2-billion class action lawsuit by four Toronto residents who claim the auto industry conspired to inflate the price of automobiles in Canada and also inhibited cross-border vehicle shopping on the strong Canadian dollar.

The suit, filed with the Ontario Superior Court by Toronto-based law firm Juroviesky and Ricci, covers consumers who bought cars between August 2005 and August 2007.

They say they forked out more money to buy cars in Canada than similar or identical models cost in the United States.

Named in the lawsuit are the Canadian and U.S. divisions of General Motors (NYSE: GM), Honda, Nissan and Chrysler.

The plaintiffs called the plan between automakers a "conspiracy" that involved a "series of concerted actions, agreements and directives" between the companies designed to minimize cross-border competition and the number of new cars that crossed the border.

Included in the allegations are claims that the automakers agreed not to honour warranties for vehicles purchased across the border, forcing Canadian consumers who wanted a manufacturer's warranty to pay 25 to 35 per cent more on average for a vehicle in Canada.

None of the allegations has been proven in court.

Also named in the suit are the Canadian Automobile Dealers Association (CADA) and the National Automobile Dealers Association, a U.S. partner based in Virginia.

CADA spokesman Huw Williams said Wednesday afternoon that the association had yet to receive a copy of the class action lawsuit.

"We're obviously not prepared to either comment on it or anything revolving it," Williams said from Ottawa.

The suit also claims some auto sales contracts included "no-export clauses" that prevented buyers from taking their cars from the U.S. to Canada, or vice-versa.

Another allegation says the industry penalized dealers if the cars they sold were then exported, either threatening to delay shipment of certain models or by issuing "chargebacks."
Old 09-27-2007 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ProblemChild514
no mater what the exchange rate is, we will always be royaly fukt by any type of market or industry... a fresh new sti is what, 32k usd? guess how much its here in canada
52k

then add the taxes..

What I said before was look outside of Quebec and maybe you can get a good deal and avoid Quebecan taxes.
Old 09-27-2007 | 12:39 AM
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Its called Canadian tariffs on U.S. goods...
Old 09-27-2007 | 12:44 AM
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thats going to get thrown out about as fast as the guy thats trying to charge O.J. simpson as steve jobs hitman.
Old 09-27-2007 | 07:52 AM
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1st Class Action lawsuit against Car Manufacturers
I'm going to merge both of your threads for ya. No need for a brand spankin new thread
Old 09-27-2007 | 01:21 PM
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its all good
Old 09-27-2007 | 01:33 PM
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Like I said In my earlier post, look in Toronto with trader.ca, I found mine there!!! Best move I made of my life,

Saved around 8 000$ ..and still in the same contry
Old 09-27-2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VmtSquad
Like I said In my earlier post, look in Toronto with trader.ca, I found mine there!!! Best move I made of my life,

Saved around 8 000$ ..and still in the same contry


I agree.

Vous etes raison.
Old 09-28-2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VmtSquad
Like I said In my earlier post, look in Toronto with trader.ca, I found mine there!!! Best move I made of my life,

Saved around 8 000$ ..and still in the same contry
prices are higher man.. i want an 05 tl with navi and should have around 50k km

my budget is 1.5k higher then market value
Old 09-28-2007 | 03:05 PM
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I'll find one for you, Im pretty sure.....
Old 09-28-2007 | 03:14 PM
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here's I am with a 5min search

TORONTO
1-BLACK/TAN - NAVI - AUTO - 45k - 29 900$
http://trader.ca/powerpage/details.a...0&adid=6419775

2-Silver/black - NAvi - AUTO - 50k - 33 000$
http://trader.ca/powerpage/details.a...8&adid=6449672

QUEBEC
3-Black/Tan - Navi - AUto - 42k - 33 900$
http://hebdo.net/result/detailinfo.a...0&pgno=1&srt=1

4-Antracite/gray -NAvi - Auto - 23k - 25 900$
http://hebdo.net/result/detailinfo.a...0&pgno=1&srt=1

5-Black/black - Navi - Auto - 47k - 33 900$
http://hebdo.net/result/detailinfo.a...4&pgno=1&srt=1
Old 09-28-2007 | 04:50 PM
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yeah, don't rush it. a buddy of mine got his 04 TL for $19k before tax. it has 50kmiles, and fully loaded and 5 year/100k miles warranty. I was like wow that's hell of a deal, i paid $34k for mine in March 04/ with out Navi
Old 09-28-2007 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by VmtSquad

5-Black/black - Navi - Auto - 47k - 33 900$
http://hebdo.net/result/detailinfo.a...4&pgno=1&srt=1
black black only!!!

and ps check my first post!!!
ill be emailling the acura plus manager and see what happends
Old 09-28-2007 | 07:31 PM
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another NBP lol .... like you already!
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