I have No problems with my TL...the anti post!!
#41
I Have 8000 And Its Like Mileage A Medicine For The Tl Rides Better And Better! Just Ordered My Aem Intake And Cant Wait To Get It In My Baby! Tl Is Not The Best Car But Sure Is One Of The Best I Have Ever Driven Or Ever Been In. And For A Price Like Mid $30,000 Cant Ask For More! If The Rattles Are A Problem Turn Your Music Up!!!
#42
I've had 2 rattles:
1) Discovered that I put my Escort 8500 too close to the rear view mirror and they were rubbing on each other. Moved it without help from Acura. Problem solved! I may sue Acura as I now have a terrible pain in my right shoulder.. Damn them for putting it so high on the windshield!! I blame it on having to actually lift it to move the mirror.
2) Had a nasty rattle last week. Wife pulled the can of Sprite out of the cup holder.. and the rattle went away. Problem solved!! Didn't even have to call ACS!! I love my little mechanic!
Seriously though, I've had great luck so far with 7600-something miles. Maybe it's because my old daily driver was a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. If that didn't rattle, I'd get worried !!! Maybe I'm just desensitized (sp?).
Aaaahhhhhh.... maybe my own ignorance and deafness truly is bliss!
1) Discovered that I put my Escort 8500 too close to the rear view mirror and they were rubbing on each other. Moved it without help from Acura. Problem solved! I may sue Acura as I now have a terrible pain in my right shoulder.. Damn them for putting it so high on the windshield!! I blame it on having to actually lift it to move the mirror.
2) Had a nasty rattle last week. Wife pulled the can of Sprite out of the cup holder.. and the rattle went away. Problem solved!! Didn't even have to call ACS!! I love my little mechanic!
Seriously though, I've had great luck so far with 7600-something miles. Maybe it's because my old daily driver was a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. If that didn't rattle, I'd get worried !!! Maybe I'm just desensitized (sp?).
Aaaahhhhhh.... maybe my own ignorance and deafness truly is bliss!
#45
Originally Posted by PiKap335
Give it a couple years and some miles then you'll be posting every day
#47
My 2006 TL has 15 miles on it no rattles at all...but I have only driven it from the dealer home...this is a great car so far Now as far as rattles go my Dodge pickup has tons of them only you cant hear them at 170mph.
#49
1 and 1/2 months with my 99 TL=42,300 miles now. Everyone loves it including me. My daughter got it the first time, ran her hands across the leather seats and said, "Wow this is real nice Dad, and quiet." No rattles, squeaks etc. Comments=it's quiet, nice seats, beautiful color, nice wheels, wish I had one, etc. No complaints so far even though I worry about the Tranny going out. Built 11/98 and warranty is up on Nov. 30 this year on the Trans. This is my third Honda Product and certainly the best yet.
#50
So far I'm at almost 18 months and 5,800 miles.
The only rattles I've encountered have resulted from things I've brought into the car with me such as disc cases in the door pockets.
My only complaints have been the flat-spotting of the tires, which isn't much of a problem in the spring and summer, and the vibration at 1,500RPM/60MPH. I'll live with the tires 'til they're due for replacement, and I'll ask for the vibration TSB to be applied when I need other warranty work. I do my own maintenance, so I haven't been back to the dealer yet.
Other than the two minor complaints, the car is a great compromise of performance, comfort, and practicality at a reasonable price. There are certainly other cars that can handle, accelerate, stop better or ride better with more interior room. NONE have all of the positive attributes and features of the TL at $35K.
G35, 3 series, C class and A4 owners compare their cars to our TL. We can reasonably compare our cars to M35, 5 series, E class, and A6, and at a LOT less money.
Yes, I still crack a smile every time I drive the car.
Regards,
The only rattles I've encountered have resulted from things I've brought into the car with me such as disc cases in the door pockets.
My only complaints have been the flat-spotting of the tires, which isn't much of a problem in the spring and summer, and the vibration at 1,500RPM/60MPH. I'll live with the tires 'til they're due for replacement, and I'll ask for the vibration TSB to be applied when I need other warranty work. I do my own maintenance, so I haven't been back to the dealer yet.
Other than the two minor complaints, the car is a great compromise of performance, comfort, and practicality at a reasonable price. There are certainly other cars that can handle, accelerate, stop better or ride better with more interior room. NONE have all of the positive attributes and features of the TL at $35K.
G35, 3 series, C class and A4 owners compare their cars to our TL. We can reasonably compare our cars to M35, 5 series, E class, and A6, and at a LOT less money.
Yes, I still crack a smile every time I drive the car.
Regards,
#51
Four months and 8500 miles later, I got a couple of paint chips on my hood! A paint chip! Can you believe it? Oh noes!1!!!1 Just kidding. It used to bother me like the dent in my rear bumper, but I'm over it. This car is flawless. I love driving it everyday. Whether I get in or out of my car, it brings a smile to my face. And catching people checking out my car is lovely, too.
#52
Originally Posted by mn2trance
Four months and 8500 miles later, I got a couple of paint chips on my hood! A paint chip! Can you believe it? Oh noes!1!!!1 Just kidding. It used to bother me like the dent in my rear bumper, but I'm over it. This car is flawless. I love driving it everyday. Whether I get in or out of my car, it brings a smile to my face. And catching people checking out my car is lovely, too.
#54
Originally Posted by mn2trance
^ Is he still around? From the specially made thread for him, I thought he had gotten banned.
He'll be missed...NOT.
#56
I have 17K miles on my 2004 TL and have had no problem. If I wanted to buy a new car today I still would buy a TL.
My girl friend has 2003 TL with 80K miles on it and it has been operating flawlessly. I had 360K miles on my previous car (1990 Integra) and it still was runing great with original cluch and rotors, that car was hassle free and great.
HONDA makes good vehicles, not junks like GM and Mercedes products.
My girl friend has 2003 TL with 80K miles on it and it has been operating flawlessly. I had 360K miles on my previous car (1990 Integra) and it still was runing great with original cluch and rotors, that car was hassle free and great.
HONDA makes good vehicles, not junks like GM and Mercedes products.
#57
Have had my 05 for about 6 months and no complaints here (had the temperature flatline problem but dealer fixed it so not an issue for me, and occasionally will get navi read error at startup but reboots itself within a minute without my intervention so not a big deal, maybe I'll go to the dealer and grovel me the latest DVD ). No rattles, fading, airbag lines etc etc.
The only real problem I have is that it's not a stick, but thats not Acura's fault, it's mine for being pussy whipped and getting an auto because of the wifey after all my cars being manual since my first one about 20 years ago
Dumont
The only real problem I have is that it's not a stick, but thats not Acura's fault, it's mine for being pussy whipped and getting an auto because of the wifey after all my cars being manual since my first one about 20 years ago
Dumont
#58
Originally Posted by wawawa
I have 17K miles on my 2004 TL and have had no problem. If I wanted to buy a new car today I still would buy a TL.
My girl friend has 2003 TL with 80K miles on it and it has been operating flawlessly. I had 360K miles on my previous car (1990 Integra) and it still was runing great with original cluch and rotors, that car was hassle free and great.
My girl friend has 2003 TL with 80K miles on it and it has been operating flawlessly. I had 360K miles on my previous car (1990 Integra) and it still was runing great with original cluch and rotors, that car was hassle free and great.
I absolutely agree whan people say it is not only a pleaasure to drive but it is very easy on the eyes.
It gets noticed and gets alot of compliments.
I also own a 94 integra which has been driven to Hell and back and it refuses to die. So I agree HONDA/ACURA makes a great car.
However your other comment proves my point about all car makers have some DUDS and some great cars.
Originally Posted by wawawa
not junks like GM and Mercedes products.
#59
You only have to read the responses to your trite comments to realise that this was a misplaced comment.....your final remark:
"It's just to point out that the way this thread began was not just to say your TL is a great vehicle, but like so many others, you had to add in an ignorant twist.
--And that my fellow TL owner, is what causes this forum to look childish"
Was both unessessary and unwarranted, indeed by the responses posted you would think that you are the ignorant one.
This thread had no other intention than to say that our vehicle is a great one and all except you decided to read it otherwise.
"It's just to point out that the way this thread began was not just to say your TL is a great vehicle, but like so many others, you had to add in an ignorant twist.
--And that my fellow TL owner, is what causes this forum to look childish"
Was both unessessary and unwarranted, indeed by the responses posted you would think that you are the ignorant one.
This thread had no other intention than to say that our vehicle is a great one and all except you decided to read it otherwise.
#60
Happy,happy, joy, joy!!!
I have/had issues, but everytime I drive the car I enjoy the drive.
Everytime I get out of the car I look back at it wanting to get back in, but also thinking to myself I am glad I bought this car.
I still look for reasons to drive it.
At my job, people got out on video game runs during the day at least once a week. (I work at a video game company) And I have been offering to drive them, just to get out and drive my TL.
I'm for my TL
Everytime I get out of the car I look back at it wanting to get back in, but also thinking to myself I am glad I bought this car.
I still look for reasons to drive it.
At my job, people got out on video game runs during the day at least once a week. (I work at a video game company) And I have been offering to drive them, just to get out and drive my TL.
I'm for my TL
#62
As my 05 has racked up 17k in a mere 9 months (a 4k 5 national park road trip didn't help!), I'm extremely pleased with the performance, comfort, and reliablity of my TL.
The only problems to date have been a creaky piece of shifter trim (promptly hushed at my first A1 service), a bald spot on the floor mat (the OEM mats are a bit wimpy), and the carpet keeps sneeking out from under the passenger side trim (I'll have the dealer apply a little double stick tape to it next service visit).
After owning a Lincoln LS for three painful years, two small interior adjustments is heavenly. Plus, all of my service visits have been handled with absolute professional and in line with my expectations for a luxury marque.
The only problems to date have been a creaky piece of shifter trim (promptly hushed at my first A1 service), a bald spot on the floor mat (the OEM mats are a bit wimpy), and the carpet keeps sneeking out from under the passenger side trim (I'll have the dealer apply a little double stick tape to it next service visit).
After owning a Lincoln LS for three painful years, two small interior adjustments is heavenly. Plus, all of my service visits have been handled with absolute professional and in line with my expectations for a luxury marque.
#63
2 years, 33,000 miles no real complaints. Original tires sucked, but I replaced those, and the hood struts gave out, but since I rarely need to go under there, had them replaced when I had some free time. Oh, as for rattles, the only rattles I have are my CD cases shifting around in the door pockets when I accelerate hard out of corners best regards to all!
#64
You only have to read the responses to your trite comments to realise that this was a misplaced comment.....your final remark:
"It's just to point out that the way this thread began was not just to say your TL is a great vehicle, but like so many others, you had to add in an ignorant twist.
--And that my fellow TL owner, is what causes this forum to look childish"
Was both unessessary and unwarranted, indeed by the responses posted you would think that you are the ignorant one.
This thread had no other intention than to say that our vehicle is a great one and all except you decided to read it otherwise.
"It's just to point out that the way this thread began was not just to say your TL is a great vehicle, but like so many others, you had to add in an ignorant twist.
--And that my fellow TL owner, is what causes this forum to look childish"
Was both unessessary and unwarranted, indeed by the responses posted you would think that you are the ignorant one.
This thread had no other intention than to say that our vehicle is a great one and all except you decided to read it otherwise.
I don't think that treating people who have complaints about their cars as "unpatriotic" whiners, is a good idea. Most of them love their cars and that's this love that makes them so bitter about declining quality.
#65
First let me start off saying that I did have some rattles in the driver side headrest and on the passenger side sun visor. After 30k miles, these have dissappeared and my car in now rattle free. But... I did have the vibration at 45-55mph that I could feel through the steering wheel. I had my Acura dealership install the vibration damper (TSB 05-017). This has almost completley resolved the issue. The vibration is still there, but barely noticeable. That being said..... I still love the hell out of my '04 TL and will always be a Honda owner for life.
#66
Originally Posted by simont53
Post something here to offset the unfortunate minority that have to post every creak rattle and whine,
I strongly believe that if you love your car you don't post....so lets set the record straight...
I have a 05 tl A spec with nothing wrong....I could afford just about any car within reason but I am very happy with my TL.
I strongly believe that if you love your car you don't post....so lets set the record straight...
I have a 05 tl A spec with nothing wrong....I could afford just about any car within reason but I am very happy with my TL.
#67
Originally Posted by simont53
I strongly believe that if you love your car you don't post...
#68
Originally Posted by youngTL
I doubt it. My 96 has no problems, and it's got 197800km on it. I drive the piss out of it every day, even crossing the redline sometimes. My car just won't die. I bet the 2004+ engines are just as bulletproof, if not better. I bet there are no problems with major components in a long time either.
I had a '97 TL that was rock solid. My '02 TL-S is an awesome car (that I do love), but the build quality doesn't feel as great as my '97. Maybe the fact that the '97 was 100% japanese parts, built in Japan. The '02 is manufactured in the US, 70% US parts, 30% Japanese.
You're right about the older TL's running forever- they are awesome cars. Unfortunatly mine was put to death by an asian girl in a Jeep Cherokee. It's cool though, my '02 is my new baby!
#69
What the fuck is wrong with some of you? Don't post bullshit to start something in here. If you have issues with your TL, tough shit - go fucking complain to the dealer, or make a respectable thread in the Problems & Fixes sub forum. Just because you had shitty experience with your car doesn't give you the right to come shit on this thread. Let people post about their good experience and their TL in peace - which is the purpose of this thread.
...Shit.
...Shit.
#70
Originally Posted by ndx2
What the fuck is wrong with some of you? Don't post bullshit to start something in here. If you have issues with your TL, tough shit - go fucking complain to the dealer, or make a respectable thread in the Problems & Fixes sub forum. Just because you had shitty experience with your car doesn't give you the right to come shit on this thread. Let people post about their good experience and their TL in peace - which is the purpose of this thread.
...Shit.
...Shit.
#71
Originally Posted by ndx2
What the fuck is wrong with some of you? Don't post bullshit to start something in here. If you have issues with your TL, tough shit - go fucking complain to the dealer, or make a respectable thread in the Problems & Fixes sub forum. Just because you had shitty experience with your car doesn't give you the right to come shit on this thread. Let people post about their good experience and their TL in peace - which is the purpose of this thread.
...Shit.
...Shit.
ndx2 rep points for you
gregtomash, unfortunately the norm in this 3G forum now is people bitching constantly, like yourself right now
might be the new amoeba
#72
Originally Posted by gregtomash
At first, I decided to let it go, but when I saw other people signing under that statement... Well, if you finish the simont's statement it would sound, "if you love your car you don't post no matter how bad it is" – and to me (sorry for being rude!) – it’s plain stupid. Such a statement is understandable when you talk about you loved ones - unique human beings you love despite their shortcomings. A car is a different matter - it's a mass produced piece of machinery and hundreds of thousands people own it. You - as person - are entitled to love it "for better or for worse", worship it, kiss its headlights before going to bed - whatever! I don't see anything wrong with it. What I do think is wrong is to refer to people who see the issues and talk about them at this forum (whose whole purpose is exactly that!), as "unfortunate minority that have to post every creak rattle and whine". It also sounds like the fact that your car is flawless makes you much smarter than people who have issues with the car - obviously, they got issues because they are just dumb and unmanly sissies! I have news for you - it's just roll of a dice... Look into the "problem and fixes" forum - it's not all that rosy as you think... You may ignore all other people opinions about the car and call them names, but your position, if indorsed by Acura, eventually would put an end to this brand we all love. The only difference between you and "people who post" is that they want TL to be better and you don't - why, it's already perfect!
#73
ndx2 rep points for you
gregtomash, unfortunately the norm in this 3G forum now is people bitching constantly, like yourself right now
might be the new amoeba
gregtomash, unfortunately the norm in this 3G forum now is people bitching constantly, like yourself right now
might be the new amoeba
#74
Originally Posted by KJSmitty
And that’s a good intention.
Like Xpditer stated, people that have issues are more likely to complain/post. Many complaints are just that, and some are laughable. Many are looking for assistance/info. As for me running out of things to complain about or disliking folks who post good things about the car - you couldn't be more wrong. My guess is you would be hard pressed to find a thread that I was "actually" complaining. My 04TL has never been back to the dealer. Wife/I truly enjoy driving/owning it. It's had several rattles that I fixed myself, bumpers don't match that well, and I think the tires stink. My dealer would repaint if I requested but the outcome could be worse and the tires I will take care of next spring.
Why then did I get up on my "soapbox"? Take a look at all the threads similar to yours. “unfortunate minority that have to post every creak rattle and whine”
They want to (justifiably) praise the car but always have to “complain” about the so called complainers. Why not just start the thread praising the/your car.? Have you ever seen a “complainer” post: My car sucks and I’m tired of the unfortunate minority that have to post how perfect theirs is”…..??
Anyway, my “intent”, though some felt overboard, was to point out most complainers do have legitimate needs. The continuing desire to complain about the complainers is petty and to the say the least you’re beating a dead horse..
The TL like any vehicle is bound to have a few anomalies now and then, but it is a darn nice/well equipped vehicle. Praise it for that but resist the desire to unnecessarily take a jab at folks having issues.
Cheers
Like Xpditer stated, people that have issues are more likely to complain/post. Many complaints are just that, and some are laughable. Many are looking for assistance/info. As for me running out of things to complain about or disliking folks who post good things about the car - you couldn't be more wrong. My guess is you would be hard pressed to find a thread that I was "actually" complaining. My 04TL has never been back to the dealer. Wife/I truly enjoy driving/owning it. It's had several rattles that I fixed myself, bumpers don't match that well, and I think the tires stink. My dealer would repaint if I requested but the outcome could be worse and the tires I will take care of next spring.
Why then did I get up on my "soapbox"? Take a look at all the threads similar to yours. “unfortunate minority that have to post every creak rattle and whine”
They want to (justifiably) praise the car but always have to “complain” about the so called complainers. Why not just start the thread praising the/your car.? Have you ever seen a “complainer” post: My car sucks and I’m tired of the unfortunate minority that have to post how perfect theirs is”…..??
Anyway, my “intent”, though some felt overboard, was to point out most complainers do have legitimate needs. The continuing desire to complain about the complainers is petty and to the say the least you’re beating a dead horse..
The TL like any vehicle is bound to have a few anomalies now and then, but it is a darn nice/well equipped vehicle. Praise it for that but resist the desire to unnecessarily take a jab at folks having issues.
Cheers
Anyway....05 Auto Navi....no probs here so far.
#75
Originally Posted by gregtomash
There is a difference between what I was "bitching" about and ndx2 - both in form and substance.... I guess you one of those people who believe that saying "fuck" and "shit" as often as possible makes your arguments much more convincing... Well, good luck to both of you!
This is what I beleive in----------------------->Quit whining, you baby!
and don't be the second guy in two days making assumptions about what I say around here.
04 AT no horrendous problems to report.
#76
Originally Posted by gregtomash
There is a difference between what I was "bitching" about and ndx2 - both in form and substance.... I guess you one of those people who believe that saying "fuck" and "shit" as often as possible makes your arguments much more convincing... Well, good luck to both of you!
Do you even drive a 3G? Your profile says 2G, and if it's true, you don't even have any grounds to bitch about the 3G's problems in the first place.
If you don't want me saying "fuck" or "shit," then don't be such a tool and post some dumb shit that goes against the topic of the thread in its entirety.
On a side note, you won't ever see me using foul language (in offensive manner) unprovoked.
Mods: feel free to delete my post if you think it's uncalled for - but only if you delete the posts that prompted my responses, too.
#77
Originally Posted by MichaelBenz
OMG....Elmer Higgins....is that you?
Anyway....05 Auto Navi....no probs here so far.
Anyway....05 Auto Navi....no probs here so far.
Grouchy guy gets a tomato for being a simpleton--
#79
Unhappy with 35K investment
I really liked the TL for many reasons. The engine, interior, styling etc. The test drive was incredible and really was the reason I purchased the 04. After owning the car for about 1 year, I have to say that for the money the car is substandard. The engine remains the only aspect that performs to the price level of this car. I had numerous front end alignments at my expense, everything rattled, the paint quality was inferior. The pulling and bouncing of my front end at times was alarming! The dealer always found nothing wrong with the car. I replaced the stock tires with a much better tire and still had the same issues. I complained to Acura and was blown off. This was the third and last Acura that I will own. Currently, there are many Japanese vehicles I would consider and have far fewer issues to remedy. I replaced the TL with an Infiniti and currently the only thing I miss is the Bluetooth telephone capability. I sure I will get over this shortly. I would suggest that if you have issues with your TL speak loudly to Acura or they will not hear you.
#80
Originally Posted by Machster_
I really liked the TL for many reasons. The engine, interior, styling etc. The test drive was incredible and really was the reason I purchased the 04. After owning the car for about 1 year, I have to say that for the money the car is substandard. The engine remains the only aspect that performs to the price level of this car. I had numerous front end alignments at my expense, everything rattled, the paint quality was inferior. The pulling and bouncing of my front end at times was alarming! The dealer always found nothing wrong with the car. I replaced the stock tires with a much better tire and still had the same issues. I complained to Acura and was blown off. This was the third and last Acura that I will own. Currently, there are many Japanese vehicles I would consider and have far fewer issues to remedy. I replaced the TL with an Infiniti and currently the only thing I miss is the Bluetooth telephone capability. I sure I will get over this shortly. I would suggest that if you have issues with your TL speak loudly to Acura or they will not hear you.
please read the title of this thread and repost somewhere else