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Old 12-13-2007, 04:45 PM
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How's your TL in the Snow??

just wondering how everyones TL'S are doing in the snow...my 07 Type S seems to handle way better than my 05....probably because the o7 is a standard....i should probably get skinnier tires...235's are way too wide for snow...
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i'm running 235/45/17 Dunlop Wintersport tires on my 04 TL and its running awesome!!
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What a shame to drive a TLS in the snow. Ever consider getting a winter beater??
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JetJock...NOPE...the TL-S can handle the winter, not as well as the ML's but it's sure as hell better then the SL
Old 12-13-2007, 05:32 PM
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I don't drive my TL in the snow or any other problematic weather. I stays in my garage, protected like a baby. That's what my truck's for.
Old 12-13-2007, 05:46 PM
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I had a TL loaner today, think either an 05 or 06, did not feel as tight as my TL-S in snow.
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My TL and his Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S's did very well late today in the accumulations of snow and especially the freezing rain today, thank you very much.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:29 PM
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I drove my TL last winter, and it actually handles suprisingly well as long as you don't get any more than 3-4 inches of snow.

This winter I opted for a $200 blazer (with working 4x4 by the way... couldn't pass)

I'm keeping both vehicles insured though so on those cold ass winter days where it's even too cold to snow - I can still use the seat warmers
Old 12-13-2007, 08:25 PM
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We haven't had much snow in the Cleveland area yet, but this morning there was a mixture of slush and a glaze left over from melting freezing rain. The TL gave me no surprise. Last winter, after I got Bridgestone Pole Positions the car did much better in snow then with the OE El 42's. I too hate to take the TL out in slop but I have no choice, next winter I will be retired and the car will stay in the garage on snowy days.
Old 12-13-2007, 08:32 PM
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My first gen. actually handled really good today in the snow. Today where I live in New England we got like 5-7" of snow and when I got out of school there was already like 2-3" on the ground and it did really good. It is staying covered though until probably Tuesday or Wednesday of next week because I don't want to take any chances with it.

P.S. We are suppose to be getting an even bigger storm on Sunday into Monday!!
Old 12-13-2007, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SSMTL04
i'm running 235/45/17 Dunlop Wintersport tires on my 04 TL and its running awesome!!
Nothing but praises for the Dunlop SP Wintersport at Tirerack. I ordered Monday...delivered to my mechanic shop Wednesday...will be on my ride on Friday.
Old 12-13-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
I don't drive my TL in the snow or any other problematic weather. I stays in my garage, protected like a baby. That's what my truck's for.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:03 PM
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Drove my TL in the snow once only so far, it felt great! Even if I kept the stock all season's on it, it handles like a charm, I don't feel sliding at all. Even if I were to pull the e-brake it wasnt easy to get it sideways.

But, I still like my Subie in the snow better.
It handles the snow like it was dry out!
Old 12-13-2007, 10:24 PM
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Seems ok. No comparison to my Impreza that I use when really bad . Gotta keep the TL safe.
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What's "snow"??
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Mine does great in the white stuff, running on Bridgestone WS-50's.
Old 12-13-2007, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Xpditor
What's "snow"??
^^That is awesome!
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^ you could probably give him an extremely detailed description
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Mine does okay on the stock tires, but I really need to pick up some snow tires.
Old 12-14-2007, 06:35 AM
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Yeah, you know it's funny. I'm quite sure my '04 manual TL would do fine in the snow, especially in light of the fact that I was born and raised in this area and have drivne in snow storms all my life around here. So I am familiar with the area and how to get around during difficult times. But what I worry most about is this.

The roads I drive on, to and from work, would mostly likely not permit enough speed in bad weather to get me seriously injured or killed in my TL (it is a very safe car). But they would permit my car to get damaged and it is for that reason I leave it at home in bad weather conditions. And since cars don't heal, I'd rather be comfortable in the knowledge that it is protected from whatever evils may befall her.

And then there is the salt and chemical mix and sand with which the counties see fit to layer the road surfaces and therefore, the vehicles. Don't want all of that crap on my TL, either. So in the winter when we do get snow, sometimes it's a week before I get to drive my TL again and it kills me to have to wait that long.
Old 12-14-2007, 08:22 AM
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My 04 MT is great in the snow. It’s shod with Bridgestone Blizzaks in 235/45 17s - I don't have any issues with them being too wide. The only issue I have is how aggressively the TC cuts in and out. It's like an on/off switch, but it gets the job done so I can't complain too much.
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vsa + 215mm bridgestone blizzaks = awesome
Old 12-14-2007, 11:06 AM
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So far here in snowy/slushy Colorado my brand new TL, bone stock, has been pretty good. The VSA kicks in pretty quickly and aggressively when taking off from a stop. Cornering feels good, as does braking. If I was smart I'd buy a second set of wheels with snow tires, but for now I'm going to just drive it as is...
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unfortunately looks like i'm going to find out tomorrow. Did just fine on the ice. Potenza G009s with about 1k miles on em.
Old 12-14-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock
What a shame to drive a TLS in the snow. Ever consider getting a winter beater??
My TL IS the "winter beater" and otherwise daily driver. Just leave the SL600 (see avatar) in the garage unless it's 80 degrees and "top down weather". Of course, it usually only snows here about once or twice a winter anyway
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I just put on a set of yoko Avid W4S about a week ago on my 3rd gen... We had about 14" of snow last night and they did fairly well. Dry traction is great, but wet traction could definitely use some improvement.

I had Conti extreme contacts on my 2nd gen TL.. Those tires were EXCELLENT in the snow.. Not so great on dry surface...
Old 12-14-2007, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Downs
Mine does okay on the stock tires, but I really need to pick up some snow tires.

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I found that the VSA is sometimes a PTA when you have good winter tires... I just simply turn it off when I know I dont need it. If I leave it ON, it takes forever to go after a STOP.

Oh and I have the 6sp , YOKO IG20 235/45/17 on stock rims. JUST LOVE MY CAR even during winter....
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lol We already had 60++ CM here in Montreal, announcing 35+ more on sunday!!

That means, stay to bed on monday morning YEAH!
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i love it in the snow. using hankook icebears
Old 12-15-2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
Mine does great in the white stuff, running on Bridgestone WS-50's.
Same here. Exceptional in the snow.

I've got 4 of the same on my 05 6MT. Ground clearance is all I fear !
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I had the WS-50's on my '04. My '07 TLS has the new WS-60's. I got caught in a pretty severe snow storm a few days ago, and it handled incredibly. Not as good as my AWD Explorer, but MUCH better with the WS-60's than with the stockers. Oh yeah... my TLS is MY Winter beater also.
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i got to work an hour ago and it was terrible..my tl however is pretty good but lately it seems the vsa can get sensitive and kick when you normally wouldnt think it should...a bit off topic guys, any recommendations on a part. tire that is all season while being very good in snow as here in cleveland area it gets reallllly badd like today was, ive got the bridgestone el42 stock tires and im sure there is a much better tire for the bad winter weather we get while still being all season.
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Snow Tires

I have Blizzak 235/45 R17's on stock wheels. This car is great in the snow. I had an EVO before and it sucked in the snow so I parked it for the winter.
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
Same here. Exceptional in the snow.

I've got 4 of the same on my 05 6MT. Ground clearance is all I fear !
I hear ya with that, I got caught in a good snow storm last year, and behind a plow convoy, problem was that they kept driving past the off ramps so there was a huge wall of snow when you wanted to exit. the drift generated by the plow was about the height of the top of the front license plate. Luckily a pickup in front of me was exiting and bashed most of the wall down, but I could definitely feel the snow high siding the bottom of the car in spots. the WS-50s dragged its low ass through however.
Old 12-15-2007, 05:17 PM
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hmmm... my TL-S in the snow??

its safe and sound in the driveway!! i break out the grand cherokee on the shitty days..

but just yesterday, i took the TL out in the snow.. it was great, but im sure it had something to do with me going 9 mph the whole time LOL
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Originally Posted by backthatACup
i got to work an hour ago and it was terrible..my tl however is pretty good but lately it seems the vsa can get sensitive and kick when you normally wouldnt think it should...a bit off topic guys, any recommendations on a part. tire that is all season while being very good in snow as here in cleveland area it gets reallllly badd like today was, ive got the bridgestone el42 stock tires and im sure there is a much better tire for the bad winter weather we get while still being all season.
ANYTHING is better than the stock EL42's, but if you're looking for a top notch all season tire:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/eagle/eagleF1AS_innov.html
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Originally Posted by 3rdGenHybrid
just wondering how everyones TL'S are doing in the snow...my 07 Type S seems to handle way better than my 05....probably because the o7 is a standard....i should probably get skinnier tires...235's are way too wide for snow...

The 07 type s manuals have limited slip. Wouldn't that help? Boston got nailed w about a foot of snow. Did fine until I got to hill about a mile from my house. Spinning like crazy and going nowhere (07 type s manual). I got lucky and a plow/sander passed me. I assume the stock michelins are worse than most all season tires
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Goodyear A/S F-1's

I've got a 2005 Tl w/six speed and 36k miles. Installed Goodyear all season F1's this fall and I've got about 6k miles on them. They work great in ice, snow, and slush as well as in rain. We just had a bunch of all that stuff for the past two weeks. The original EL-42's were junk. I would recommend the Goodyear's to anyone that needs to drive their car year around in all kinds of weather.

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Originally Posted by The Dougler
I hear ya with that, I got caught in a good snow storm last year, and behind a plow convoy, problem was that they kept driving past the off ramps so there was a huge wall of snow when you wanted to exit. the drift generated by the plow was about the height of the top of the front license plate. Luckily a pickup in front of me was exiting and bashed most of the wall down, but I could definitely feel the snow high siding the bottom of the car in spots. the WS-50s dragged its low ass through however.
HA ! The same thing happened to me a few years back (in a Saab that was also ground clearance challenged) . I was several exits past where I wanted to et off the highway before an SUV in front of me finally "rammed" the headlight-high berm. There were 3 or 4 plows, staggered diagonally across all lanes, all plowing to the right side.


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