How much faster is the TL Type S Vs the Regula TL?
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How much faster is the TL Type S Vs the Regula TL?
Hey guys.. I am new to the forum. I drive a Volvo S60R and my partner just picked up a TL type S he swicthed from a 2003 M3 (needed 4 doors) so far he loves the car the paddle shifts are awesome. I would consider one of these when my lease is over I just love AWD anyways.. He wanted me to ask some question on the forum about some perf mods that are availabe for the 07 Type S also how much faster would u say the Type S is over the regular TL?
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welcome to the forums. What a nice friend you are, huh-
I'd say its faster by a decent amount. When mine was stock, it was a lot slower- I think tlfourplay has a type-s with mods on it, search for threads by him. And definately buy a new tl-s
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Welcome.
I would wait for the 09 TL where it is new body change and rumor has it that it will have SH-AWD where this will probably suit you likely with your current VOLVO AWD and more HP.
As for TL-S now that you partner can put AEM Intake, UR Crank Pully to get more HP. There are other items you probably can put on that I probably do not know about it. Maybe people here can provide more info on it.
I would wait for the 09 TL where it is new body change and rumor has it that it will have SH-AWD where this will probably suit you likely with your current VOLVO AWD and more HP.
As for TL-S now that you partner can put AEM Intake, UR Crank Pully to get more HP. There are other items you probably can put on that I probably do not know about it. Maybe people here can provide more info on it.
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I am not sure the 6speed tl and the type s tl ran 0-60 in 5.7 seconds in road and track but I think the type-s rant the quarter in 14.2 versus the 6 speed tl at 14.5 so I say get a tl type s and add some mods to it should be pretty quick. A auto tl type-s does it in 5.9 0-60.
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Best time reported for a 3G TL, not an '07 TL-S was by Car and Driver for an '04 A-Spec, bone stock 6MT.
0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH
0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Best time reported for a 3G TL, not an '07 TL-S was by Car and Driver for an '04 A-Spec, bone stock 6MT.
0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH
0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH
That is fast!
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Well i have an 07 tl-s and when i took it in for some service they gave me a base 07. i felt quite a difference, now im not saying the kinda difference when you drive a chevy vet but my tl-s gets up there a lot better and more responsive than the base. Just to make it clear though the base model has plenty of power but i drive my S everyday and i felt the difference right away.
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Originally Posted by 007TL-S
not much faster, 200/300 of a sec. isn't dramatic !
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I wonder if you debadged them (and could take out the red-or-blue interior lighting), how many people can tell the difference. Not so much someone who drives a TL or TL-S regularly and knows every shift-point of their own car, but someone new to the model.
What I'm getting at is not the real performance difference but the psychology of it. So when someone expects a car will perform better they think it does. (Or the opposite -- they expect it to perform much better and are disappointed if it's only slightly better.)
What I'm getting at is not the real performance difference but the psychology of it. So when someone expects a car will perform better they think it does. (Or the opposite -- they expect it to perform much better and are disappointed if it's only slightly better.)
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Originally Posted by evantec
I wonder if you debadged them (and could take out the red-or-blue interior lighting), how many people can tell the difference. Not so much someone who drives a TL or TL-S regularly and knows every shift-point of their own car, but someone new to the model.
What I'm getting at is not the real performance difference but the psychology of it. So when someone expects a car will perform better they think it does. (Or the opposite -- they expect it to perform much better and are disappointed if it's only slightly better.)
What I'm getting at is not the real performance difference but the psychology of it. So when someone expects a car will perform better they think it does. (Or the opposite -- they expect it to perform much better and are disappointed if it's only slightly better.)
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Originally Posted by evantec
I wonder if you debadged them (and could take out the red-or-blue interior lighting), how many people can tell the difference. Not so much someone who drives a TL or TL-S regularly and knows every shift-point of their own car, but someone new to the model.
What I'm getting at is not the real performance difference but the psychology of it. So when someone expects a car will perform better they think it does. (Or the opposite -- they expect it to perform much better and are disappointed if it's only slightly better.)
What I'm getting at is not the real performance difference but the psychology of it. So when someone expects a car will perform better they think it does. (Or the opposite -- they expect it to perform much better and are disappointed if it's only slightly better.)
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Best time reported for a 3G TL, not an '07 TL-S was by Car and Driver for an '04 A-Spec, bone stock 6MT.
0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH
0-60 in 5.6 seconds
quarter mile in 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH
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Thats not right. The IS350 does 0-60 in 5.6. I dont think the regular TL can pull those numbers STOCK.
It's really difficult to compare acceleration times, performed by different people employing different method it's like comparing apples to oranges.
BTW, Road and Track recorded 0-60 time of 4.9 for an IS350. They don't correct for altitude and temperature.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
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Originally Posted by 260 HP
Acceleration times recorded in magazines will always differ from car to car (even of the same model), from driver to driver, from magazine to magazine, test venue to test venue. Some magazines correct for altitude and temperature, some don't. Some test locations are dry with new asphalt, while the others might have a thin layer of sand.
It's really difficult to compare acceleration times, performed by different people employing different method it's like comparing apples to oranges.
BTW, Road and Track recorded 0-60 time of 4.9 for an IS350. They don't correct for altitude and temperature.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
It's really difficult to compare acceleration times, performed by different people employing different method it's like comparing apples to oranges.
BTW, Road and Track recorded 0-60 time of 4.9 for an IS350. They don't correct for altitude and temperature.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
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Originally Posted by juruki
Thats not right. The IS350 does 0-60 in 5.6. I dont think the regular TL can pull those numbers STOCK.
Here's the link. Enjoy.
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...tl-a-spec.html
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Yeah, it isn't worth it to pay that much for a TL-S now! That's why in November I got a TL 6MT. The price-worthy ones will be out in 09-10 when they do the true upgrades. The 07 TL-S is too much like the 3G TL. Call it 3 1/2G! They just put the latest TL-S out there to appease those of you who kept getting dusted by G's and IS's! By the way, how is that working out?
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Originally Posted by 260 HP
Acceleration times recorded in magazines will always differ from car to car (even of the same model), from driver to driver, from magazine to magazine, test venue to test venue. Some magazines correct for altitude and temperature, some don't. Some test locations are dry with new asphalt, while the others might have a thin layer of sand.
It's really difficult to compare acceleration times, performed by different people employing different method it's like comparing apples to oranges.
BTW, Road and Track recorded 0-60 time of 4.9 for an IS350. They don't correct for altitude and temperature.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
It's really difficult to compare acceleration times, performed by different people employing different method it's like comparing apples to oranges.
BTW, Road and Track recorded 0-60 time of 4.9 for an IS350. They don't correct for altitude and temperature.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
Track and environment conditions (including weather, air pressure, and altitude), the car's condition, the knowledge and ability of the driver, and a darned good pass. All of these, and perhaps a few more, play into getting good E.T.'s and 0-60 times.
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Two-thirds of a second is a HUGE difference in drag racing. Just huge.
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My '04 TL is going back in about a year. I've been looking at what else is out there. Seems the TL-S is pretty much an even match for the G35 RWD. And I test drove a BMW 335i, oh boy... now that's a fast 4 door!
Funny thing is: Because of the interest rates and residual values, the TL-S, G35 RWD and 335i (all cars are 4 doors) are about the same price /mnth. The IS350 is way more expensive than any of the others.
So far the 335i seems to be leading in handling/performance. The G35 in equipment.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: They all are spec'd with Navis and 6M tranny. But the G35 and TL-S are fully loaded whereas the 335i only has the Navi + leather, missing lots of options.
And before you Americans start comparing prices, keep in mind this is in Canada where our pricing is really silly.
So I'd like to know just how well does the TL-S perform so I can compare against the others. None of the Acura dealers have a TL-S I can test drive, or they simply don't want to put any KMs on a hot selling model. Bastards!
Funny thing is: Because of the interest rates and residual values, the TL-S, G35 RWD and 335i (all cars are 4 doors) are about the same price /mnth. The IS350 is way more expensive than any of the others.
So far the 335i seems to be leading in handling/performance. The G35 in equipment.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: They all are spec'd with Navis and 6M tranny. But the G35 and TL-S are fully loaded whereas the 335i only has the Navi + leather, missing lots of options.
And before you Americans start comparing prices, keep in mind this is in Canada where our pricing is really silly.
So I'd like to know just how well does the TL-S perform so I can compare against the others. None of the Acura dealers have a TL-S I can test drive, or they simply don't want to put any KMs on a hot selling model. Bastards!
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I test drove the new is350 today just to see what all the fuss was about, and i will admit its got some ballz and pretty nice handling but the more i sat in it and realized how tiny it was the more that i felt like it was a chick car. there is really no room in the back seats, the car might as well be a 2 door; and the driver seat felt way to narrow for me. If i wanted the IS fully loaded like my type s i would be paying nearly 50k. Im glad i went to test drive it, now i have it out of my system and know i got a great deal on my Type-S
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Originally Posted by TL1110
I test drove the new is350 today just to see what all the fuss was about, and i will admit its got some ballz and pretty nice handling but the more i sat in it and realized how tiny it was the more that i felt like it was a chick car. there is really no room in the back seats, the car might as well be a 2 door; and the driver seat felt way to narrow for me. If i wanted the IS fully loaded like my type s i would be paying nearly 50k. Im glad i went to test drive it, now i have it out of my system and know i got a great deal on my Type-S
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Originally Posted by TL1110
I test drove the new is350 today just to see what all the fuss was about, and i will admit its got some ballz and pretty nice handling but the more i sat in it and realized how tiny it was the more that i felt like it was a chick car. there is really no room in the back seats, the car might as well be a 2 door; and the driver seat felt way to narrow for me. If i wanted the IS fully loaded like my type s i would be paying nearly 50k. Im glad i went to test drive it, now i have it out of my system and know i got a great deal on my Type-S
Actually a similar-equipped IS350 is about 2-3 grand more than the TL-S, as the 50k fully loaded IS350 has a lot of features the TL does not even offer. Only the 335i cost almost 50k fully loaded similar to the Type-S and the IS350's equipment.
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Originally Posted by 260 HP
Acceleration times recorded in magazines will always differ from car to car (even of the same model), from driver to driver, from magazine to magazine, test venue to test venue. Some magazines correct for altitude and temperature, some don't. Some test locations are dry with new asphalt, while the others might have a thin layer of sand.
It's really difficult to compare acceleration times, performed by different people employing different method it's like comparing apples to oranges.
BTW, Road and Track recorded 0-60 time of 4.9 for an IS350. They don't correct for altitude and temperature.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
It's really difficult to compare acceleration times, performed by different people employing different method it's like comparing apples to oranges.
BTW, Road and Track recorded 0-60 time of 4.9 for an IS350. They don't correct for altitude and temperature.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
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I drive an 06 TL AT w. AEM CAI
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
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Originally Posted by zigger
Hey guys.. I am new to the forum. I drive a Volvo S60R and my partner just picked up a TL type S he swicthed from a 2003 M3 (needed 4 doors) so far he loves the car the paddle shifts are awesome. I would consider one of these when my lease is over I just love AWD anyways.. He wanted me to ask some question on the forum about some perf mods that are availabe for the 07 Type S also how much faster would u say the Type S is over the regular TL?
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I raced my nephew in his new 07 Civic Si, with the 07 TL-S traction control on, I beat him pretty good, but not what I expected. That little Si is quick. When I turned the traction control off, I beat his much better. It allowed the TL-S to rev out A.S.A.P.
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Originally Posted by TL1110
I test drove the new is350 today just to see what all the fuss was about, and i will admit its got some ballz and pretty nice handling but the more i sat in it and realized how tiny it was the more that i felt like it was a chick car. there is really no room in the back seats, the car might as well be a 2 door; and the driver seat felt way to narrow for me. If i wanted the IS fully loaded like my type s i would be paying nearly 50k. Im glad i went to test drive it, now i have it out of my system and know i got a great deal on my Type-S
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Originally Posted by Snookynibbles
I drive an 06 TL AT w. AEM CAI
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
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Did you join just to post that... or do you just have some huge boner for Toyota/Lexus? Geez, man.
I think we all realize that a TL is a mid $30K sporty four-door sedan, and NOT a sports car. It will never truly compete with the likes of anything with legit power going to the rear wheels.
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I don't know what the standard TL scores on the road holding index, but the TL-S is at .91G. Forget about the unimportance of peak horsepower and torque comparisons long enough to accept that the 3.5L engine is just plain bigger than the 3.2L engine, thus more powerful at every point, in this case. The stiffer suspension, and available 6-Speed transmission, make the car more fun for me to drive than a standard TL would have been.
The truth is really that a car just gets us places. But this is America (for most of us), and it's our national right to waste our money on expensive vehicles that depreciate faster than nearly any other investment. Sure, one of those $8000 cars with a 10-year warranty, and free oil changes and free tires for life might be a more economical purchase, but we'd lose every aesthetic race.
The real reason that I'll always buy the Type-S, or LS 6-Speed, or GS-R, or Si, or whatever is as much for ease and value of resale as it is for the added entertainment of being able to attack the curves with the accelerator instead of the brakes, moving weight front or back as needed. The premium paid for the highest trim model always gets returned to me when I sell. Of course, that's just what I think. Most people seem to be happy riding in the driver's seat. I almost envy them.
The truth is really that a car just gets us places. But this is America (for most of us), and it's our national right to waste our money on expensive vehicles that depreciate faster than nearly any other investment. Sure, one of those $8000 cars with a 10-year warranty, and free oil changes and free tires for life might be a more economical purchase, but we'd lose every aesthetic race.
The real reason that I'll always buy the Type-S, or LS 6-Speed, or GS-R, or Si, or whatever is as much for ease and value of resale as it is for the added entertainment of being able to attack the curves with the accelerator instead of the brakes, moving weight front or back as needed. The premium paid for the highest trim model always gets returned to me when I sell. Of course, that's just what I think. Most people seem to be happy riding in the driver's seat. I almost envy them.
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Originally Posted by Snookynibbles
I drive an 06 TL AT w. AEM CAI
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
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'05 TL MT
I have it, I love it, best bang for the buck IMO. Not the fasted thing out there, but fast enough for me and very comfortable with all the fantastic features. The same can be said for the '07 Type S I'm sure, as it's that much better for slightly more money.
06' IS350
My friend has it, loves it, less features than my TL for the same price though, and A LOT smaller. The power is incredible though, and interior finish seems a step above Acura.
'07 335i
both my friend and I test drove it unsupervised. And we were both VERY impressed by the power - appears to pull A LOT stronger than the IS350 (this even coming from the IS350 owner). Still too small for my taste however, and as mentioned by others, comparable features price it really high. This is clearly a "drivers" machine...
I have it, I love it, best bang for the buck IMO. Not the fasted thing out there, but fast enough for me and very comfortable with all the fantastic features. The same can be said for the '07 Type S I'm sure, as it's that much better for slightly more money.
06' IS350
My friend has it, loves it, less features than my TL for the same price though, and A LOT smaller. The power is incredible though, and interior finish seems a step above Acura.
'07 335i
both my friend and I test drove it unsupervised. And we were both VERY impressed by the power - appears to pull A LOT stronger than the IS350 (this even coming from the IS350 owner). Still too small for my taste however, and as mentioned by others, comparable features price it really high. This is clearly a "drivers" machine...
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Originally Posted by Snookynibbles
I drive an 06 TL AT w. AEM CAI
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
From the various blogs & sites I've trolled over the many moons, here's the range of 0-60 times being asserted for the various Gen 3 TLs...
04 - 06 TL AT = 6.4 ~ 6.6 sec.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
Now I'm guessing re the 07 TL Type S & COMPTECH supercharged versions...
07 TL S AT ~ 5.9 - 6.0
07 TL S MT ~ 5.5
Add in COMPTECH's supercharger delivering verified 288+ wheel hp (equivalent of 325 flywheel hp) for 04 TL AT (they claim 5 hp more for MT version) = 0-60 ~ low 5's.
Also, adding a CAI from AEM, plus COMPTECH's cat-back exhaust combined delivers another 28-30 flywheel hp (as verified by mfgr dynos), enabling any 04 - 07 TL AT to roughly accelerate on par with an 07 TL S AT model.
The TL's launch times will never be stellar due to its FWD design & the crummy tires the factory intalls. And of course, posted times will vary according to driver, road composition, weather, altitude, etc.
The 306 hp IS350 times seem to run in the low 5's ~ 5.3, I believe. Toyota's got a 6 speed tranny w. RWD in its favor. Having that extra gear makes a big difference when compared against a 5 speed TL. The IS350 will remain up in its power band more frequently than the TL.
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
How is that possible? If anything wouldn't the kit add more weight?
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Originally Posted by RedHOT411
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04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
How is that possible? If anything wouldn't the kit add more weight?
04 - 06 TL MT = 5.9
04 - 06 TL MT w. A Spec Kit = 5.7
How is that possible? If anything wouldn't the kit add more weight?
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