ez12a

I'm seeing that the 04-06 autos have about the same time at around 7. OP has a 6MT which will always be faster than the 5AT no matter what year, base TL to base TL.

you will eventually beat us though on a very long stretch of road since the 5AT top speed is higher.

splew

^Yeah that

Not sure about this part. IIRC, all 07-08 auto trans TLs (Type-S included) are electronically limited to 130mph.

As for the 04-06 models, if I'm not mistaken, they both have around the same top speed, limited mostly by drag to around 145mph. I think there is still an electronic limiter at 150mph though for the tire speed rating's sake.

I hate cars

I agree top speed might be drag limited. Speedos can be pretty far off at high speeds but I've seen an indicated 158-160. I didn't feel a limiter but it was climbing so ridiculously slow that I could've hit it without knowing.

Thunderrr

Check it out I did about 4 runs I think this was my best one. Im much happier tonight.
I count 6.4-6.5 seconds.
I find wheel spinning makes the time worse so VSA was on.
I have a video with VSA off and I was spinning through most of first gear..lol
Video quality is not the best.

[youtube]Kbmhwncv7gg[/youtube]

justnspace

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you're forgetting about gearing!
what happens when the autos hit fourth gear?
they fall flat!!

4th gear for me will put me into triple digits EASY.

ez12a

Right, i stand corrected. Found an old thread with C&D tests and the 6MT is 152 mph..not really clear if it's drag or electronically limited though.

splew

I think there's probably a factory limiter there somewhere, if nothing else, just as a safeguard for the tires. Where the limiter is and whether the car will ever be able to hit it under normal conditions is anyone's guess.

Most newer Honda vehicles have a speed limiter set about 5-10mph below the max speed rating of the OE tires. From what I understand, the OE tires on the TL were W rated (168mph), so if there is a limiter, my guess is that it's at 160mph. This is all just speculation on my part though.

Looks pretty good. If you're going for the fastest possible times on an automatic, you might try brake torquing though.

I hate cars

When I did a top speed run, I shifted into 5th once it hit top speed and it started slowing down quickly. It falls on it's face in 4th but (and I know I'll get shit for this), it pulls decently as you stay in it and get into the higher rpms in 4th.

Any new car for many years has to have a governor according to the tires it was sold with assuming it has the power to go faster than the tires can handle. On my turbo car, especially after some mods, it would pull like a freight train up to 124mph, you're still stuck to the seat at that speed and then it's all over. It felt like the engine just shut off, no doubt about it when that car hits the governor. I took care of that of course. Ironically it still has a governor but it's at 200mph and the car is gear limited to the low 180mph range.

Thunderrr

This is actually true... I never red lined 4th gear because I would probably hit the cars max speed. and once you red line 3rd, 4th starts at 4200-4300 rpm on the automatic.. What about the manual.

justnspace

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top of third i'm at 120 at like 6500-6700 rpm
4th - 121mph and I'm in the power band.
I dont really pay attention to the dash at this point.

Bearcat94

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/autobahn-top-speed-videos-614520/

ultimatum127

Ive been running 0-60 times of 6 seconds, and i get no wheels spin, its one of the hardest things for me to do. im lowered with about 1.2 degrees camber up front and on eagle gt's 235, no wheels spin most of the time.

splew

Yeah your Grand National sounds pretty sick. I bet you embarrass a lot of V8 guys with it, lol.

Oh thanks.

justnspace

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you must be automatic.

paperboy42190

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the automatic TLs are actually pretty good for a 0-60 run because the 2nd gear goes up to 71. that means from 0-60 only 1 shift is needed. I believe, with the 6mt, 2nd ends around 56-57? thats how some of the 6mt from honda (civic si) are geared. someone correct me if im wrong. because of that, the 0-60 time for the 5at isnt far behind the 6mt. however in actual racing, the 6mt should pull away in all speeds.

I tried a 0-60 run earlier but it was hard holding my camera and doing the run so it didnt turn out that well, I either shifted too early or bounced off the limiter too much. however it was approx 6 sec flat.

splew

No, you can hit 60 in 2nd with a 6MT TL. If you pause my video in the OP you can see it hits 60mph at about 6700RPM in 2nd, so just before redline. It will go up to about 65mph before hitting the rev limiter.

paperboy42190

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ok thats good to know the TL's arent super close ratio like the rest of honda's 6mt.

what about the rest of the gears? max speed each gear?

splew

According to Road & Track in a 2004 TL test:

Top speed in each gear (at redline)
1st-39mph
2nd-61mph
3rd-90mph
4th-122mph
5th-147mph*
6th-147mph*
*Electronically limited

paperboy42190

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I guess 61mph it is. Since the rev limiter doesn't let you go into redline, I dont think 65mph is possible

Bada$$VTEC

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This is correct,i've verified it 3 times in my car.

It is indeed limited cuz when i hit 150 (on dash)

I still have lots of rpm to hit redline in 5th

but the speedo doesnt move,only rpm does.

6th is pretty much useless cuz it wont do nothing since its limited.

splew

The rev limiter kicks in after you exceed redline. The redline is 6800rpm but the limiter doesn't kick in until about 7200rpm.

NvrDwn

I saw some talk about the PS2 tires, they are not the best Michelin.

If you want performance Get the Michelin Pilot Super Sport. I doubt you guys will find one with more grip that is also quiet and lasts a long time. Check out the Tirerack review on them.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ot+Super+Sport

splew

^Yeah I know the Pilot Super Sports are one of the best, if the best all around performance tires. They're a tad pricy though. IIRC they run about $250 a tire in our stock size when not on special.

NvrDwn

True. My size is about $180. They do cost more, but when you think about how they will last longer it'll save you money that way.

paperboy42190

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Wrong. and I have videos proving I'm right. I can guarantee you my rev limiter will kick in right before redline. I think you might have a 6mt though, that could be why you can rev to 7200, however if you have an automatic, you'll see hell rise before you see 7000+ rpm on stock tune.

I agree PSS is a great tire, better than ps2, however when you take in comparison that a set of PSS for 235/45/17 is almost $900 installed and balanced out the door, compared to hankook v12 $500 installed and balanced out the door....you have to ask yourself if the PSS can last twice as long....although yes the grip is better, I will admit. But hankook v12 is more than what you need for the occasional spirited driving. you say for your size is $180? I dont think so because here in socal we have the best prices for tires in the whole US. 235/45/17 michelin pss mounted and balanced out the door CANNOT be under $800

paperboy42190

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can anyone give me the gear ratios for each gear on the 6mt? I can calculate the rpm you will be in for 4th gear after you max out 3rd.

NvrDwn

My size is smaller. 215/45/17.

justnspace

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george, my 6mt will hit about 7k then engine cut off.
also, im to busy to look at the moment, but if you head to hondanews.com and look through the archives of acura TL, you'll find the gear ratios.

also, they've been documented on azine before. do a google search "6mt gear ratios + acurazine"

rockstar143

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My 6MT sometimes goes faster than my mind can think. Can be kinda dangerous when driving at higher speeds.

RonC5

okay, flame suit on here, but if you think that was crazy wheelspin, you have led a sheltered life.

AnthraciteAspec

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I think he was saying it was a decent amount of wheelspin for a TL. Obviously not much compared to the tire melting a Vette can do.

Personally, my car has no wheelspin at all, unless its wet out or my tires are cold. I love my Hankook RS-3s.

NvrDwn

Can you dump 2.5-3k and get no wheel spin??

I spin all of 1st doing that..

AnthraciteAspec

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I have an automatic, so unfortunately no I can't

Wish I had a 6MT now but when I bought the car it was simply to commute to work with. I had no intention of modifying it lol

splew

Oh I was unaware you had an automatic. I was referring to the 6MT rev limiter, which is at around 7200rpm (I've hit it once or twice, accidentally of course).

I would have no idea where the rev limiter is on the auto TL, since I've never driven one. I have no trouble believing that what you say is true though and that it is indeed set at a lower RPM on the auto. That would make sense.

Sorry for the confusion, lol.

Obviously it's nothing compared to a Corvette, lol.

TLove It!

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X2^

NvrDwn

Makes sense.

anx1300c

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Stiffer suspension and summer tires I'm assuming. And actually, the a-specs were around 50 lbs heavier overall. The 18" wheels added quite a bit as well as the body add ons.

anx1300c

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Yeah, it's 7k, give or take 50 rpm's. I've hit it 2nd enough times. One thing's for sure, though. In daylight, this tach is a bitch to read.

justnspace

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yeah, i dont even pay attention to the dash when climbing that high.
a quick glance down to see when to shift, but thats about it.

splew

Yeah I typically don't look at the tach, I just do it by ear. bwwaaAHHH--VTACKKKK!!--shift, lol.