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Old 09-28-2007, 08:03 AM
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Hit the rev limiter while tiptronic shifting out of second @ 6700rpm..

I guess the best thing to do it slap it into the next gear right @ the 6500 mark
because during the slight pause it taked to respond you'll be right at 6750 right?
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yeah, around there.
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Since the RPMS climb slower in each gear this number will increase slightly for
perfect shifts on each gear. Im just wondering if this will get me better 1/4 times
or just letting the autotrans do all the work and slap it into D.
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yes to that too.

redline is 6,800 but rev limiter is ~7,000 or 7,100.

don't know which is quicker in the quarter - i do know which is more likely to be a little late and hit the limiter.
Old 09-28-2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
yes to that too.

redline is 6,800 but rev limiter is ~7,000 or 7,100.

don't know which is quicker in the quarter - i do know which is more likely to be a little late and hit the limiter.
Hmm it seemed to me last night the limited bounced right before 7. Course I just
glanced at it. I know in neutral the limiter kicks in at around 5 , right.
Old 09-28-2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by xdaily
Hmm it seemed to me last night the limited bounced right before 7. Course I just
glanced at it. I know in neutral the limiter kicks in at around 5 , right.
i only know what i read. check here, left hand page under "engine" then "redline/limiter".

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf


neutral - i have no idea
Old 09-28-2007, 10:59 AM
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The limiter is at 7k rpm. Shifting right at 7k lets u get to vtec range faster in the next gear.
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Actually around 4k in nuetral unless I'm confusing the Ford with the TL (they both do it), try it, you won't hurt anything... Keep it in park and put the pedel to the floor, yang,yang,yang,yang,yang,yang,yang.

FWIW - depending on situation, auto gears pull pretty long and shifts are fairly quick... I don't get a lot of confidence the tiptronic mode is any faster than D.
Old 09-28-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by juruki
The limiter is at 7k rpm. Shifting right at 7k lets u get to vtec range faster in the next gear.
V-tec or not... the *.pdf someone posted shows a clear advantage of pulling a longer RPM. Look at the graph, the lexus with automatic has a linear curve, the TL and G with 6 speed manual have little dips... Shifts.

The G pulls ahead of the TL with every shift cause he's burning another 600 RPM and the TL can't make it up.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...d/02073car.pdf
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Actually after reading that PDF Im not sure why anyone would buy a TL-S over
a G for any reason other then styling.
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There are many dyno shops now with units that let you run 1/4 mile test with shifting points all mapped out with the other results

Thats the way to find out if its you or the car
Tiptronic sends a signal when you say, or computer taking massive things into consideration makes the shifts hmmmm
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I would never buy another datsun after driving a z and now on to a TL-S, nothing compares to a TL-S, except a jet liner
Old 09-28-2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
I would never buy another datsun after driving a z and now on to a TL-S, nothing compares to a TL-S, except a jet liner

Well said.
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I think I remember reading that the autos shift earlier with the VSA on...maybe if you disable the VSA you could push it to the fuel cut-off at 7100 RPM instead of 65ooRPM
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IIRC...the TL-S cutoff is at 6800. And if you leave it in "D", it shifts at 6200. Can anyone confirm this?
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hmm, i always shift at around 6,700-6,800.. I'mma have to try 7000 with my 06 a/t tl..

after the oil change, that is..
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Originally Posted by godizus
I think I remember reading that the autos shift earlier with the VSA on...maybe if you disable the VSA you could push it to the fuel cut-off at 7100 RPM instead of 65ooRPM
Hhmm Ill try that. The VSA was on when it hit the limiter before 7k.
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Originally Posted by JsL138
IIRC...the TL-S cutoff is at 6800. And if you leave it in "D", it shifts at 6200. Can anyone confirm this?

In Full Auto mode, the car will shift at or before the 6,800 rpm redline. Do a WOT run in full auto, I bet it shifts AFTER 6,200 in 1st and 2nd (maybe 3rd too).

As I posted earlier, the "cut off" aka rev limiter is at 7,000.
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Originally Posted by xdaily
Actually after reading that PDF Im not sure why anyone would buy a TL-S over
a G for any reason other then styling.
Both cars get it done... How much time do you really spend @ WOT?

FWIW - all 3 entries in this comparison, I wouldn't by a single one for straight line or corner to corner racing. What I'm getting at, if the hair splitting among the 3 cars means that much, you're in the wrong car segment, period.
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Originally Posted by onsknth
Both cars get it done... How much time do you really spend @ WOT?

FWIW - all 3 entries in this comparison, I wouldn't by a single one for straight line or corner to corner racing. What I'm getting at, if the hair splitting among the 3 cars means that much, you're in the wrong car segment, period.
Not that I dont love the TL but after reading that PDF it was like the G's makers
purposely set out to beat the TLS in every aspect by a little and the damn thing
is cheaper. Bastards!..lol
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The G is one MY change ahead of the TL.

So the 4G TL will surpass the G35, then a few years later, the G will re-pass the TL.
Old 09-28-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by xdaily
Actually after reading that PDF Im not sure why anyone would buy a TL-S over
a G for any reason other then styling.
I'm 6'4" tall. The TL-S has significantly better headroom than the G35. I wanted to like the G35 but just couldn't get comfortable behind the steering wheel.

During test drives the G35 was a little faster, but the TL-S had smoother throttle and braking.

You should be able to get a better deal on a TL this month (comparing 07 to 07 models with similar equipment) as long as you can live without that analog clock.

I'm picking up my 07 TL-S tomorrow. I'll have to stay away from the rev limiter for a few weeks until the break-in is done.
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^^Yeah, but look how ugly it is! lol The interior is garbage as well (IMO) So...there are trade-offs. I used to work at Infiniti and I test drove the new G37 Coupe, besides its massive pull, nothing else really impressed me. I could take wayyyy faster turns in my TL, but then again, I have Tein SS w/ Comptech RSB.
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i really hate to be a noob, but what's WOT ? and can anyone tell me why it is that when i floor it, the car seems to slightly screech and sorta jump, instead of burning out/ peeling out? I take every precaution to make sure no cars are around and that i cant injure anyone just so everybody knows. Ive got the TL-S auto and it didn't do this until i recently got new flowmaster mufflers, could this at all be the cause?? sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.
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WOT = Wide Open Throttle = Flooring It.

Is the difference VSA on versus VSA off? Sounds like VSA is kicking in ("slightly screech and sorta jump").
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Thanks. Happens when i have VSA off. It could possibly be due to my tires.
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I think i know the reason, i also took out my front anchor - 7 pound weight i believe. I noticed when I have someone in the car, it burns out without any problems..at least until i wreck my trans., but when I'm by myself, it has the problem. Could those few pounds really matter?
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?? I would think it would be harder to do a burnout with someone in the car on
account of the exrta weight.
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well i was going up a slight hill, but even on straight roads, it went for a little while. I try not to hold it too long.
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