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Old 09-08-2006 | 03:40 AM
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Engine oil question..

Hi! AZ people!!

My 06 Tl has 5500miles on it and i've never changed oil before.
I'm kind of confusing what kinds of oil do i have to use?? regular or synthetic??
Also, can I be allright to visit the jiffy rube kind of place only for change engine oil?? Thanks.
Old 09-08-2006 | 05:35 AM
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I use Mobil 1 with the Mobil M1-104 filter. Do oil changes yourself. Avoid places like Jiffy Lube.. just too many horror stories there. Besides, changing oil is a simple task.
Old 09-08-2006 | 07:49 AM
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Use "jiffy rube" if you want to be a "RUBE"! Use them at your peril. CHeck this little news item out. I wouldn't stop at Jiffy Lube to take a leak, and no way in the world would I let them touch my TL.

http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vo...52183.200k.asx


My 06 Tl has 5500miles on it and i've never changed oil before.
I'm kind of confusing what kinds of oil do i have to use?? regular or synthetic??
Also, can I be allright to visit the jiffy rube kind of place only for change engine oil?? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Old 09-08-2006 | 08:58 AM
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You will probably be alerted by the car to change your oil & possibly a tire rotation around 7,000 miles. I'd stay away from "Jiffy Noob" if you can.

You still have the break-in oil from the factory in the engine, so it would help if you replaced it with something similiar for the first & maybe second oil change. There are several threads about what oils to use, but the most popular are Mobil1, Havoline, Ford Motorcraft Synthetic Blend, Pennzoil & Amsoil.

There are good deals on 5 quart jugs that save you money, instead of buying single quarts. It just depends on the availability of your choice of brand & oil weight.

If you feel you cannot perform your own oil change because lack of experience or tools, maybe you can ask a friend or neighbor to assist & teach you. On my first 3 oil changes I used Ford Motorcraft Syn-Blen 5-20W & then changed to Mobil1 Synthetic 5-20W or Mobil1 Synthetic Extend Performance 5-30W. It depends what Mobil1 oil weight I can get at Walmart in a 5 quart jug to determine what I will use next. Thats why I switch between the two. I also use the standard Honda/Acura oil filter i get from the dealer or online.

Here are a few threads for you to read & good luck!:

Road Rage Oil Journals

DIY: Oil Change (1)

DIY: Oil Change (2)
Old 09-08-2006 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FTT*9266
Hi! AZ people!!

My 06 Tl has 5500miles on it and i've never changed oil before.
I'm kind of confusing what kinds of oil do i have to use?? regular or synthetic??
Also, can I be allright to visit the jiffy rube kind of place only for change engine oil?? Thanks.

Use regular 5-20w Mobil or Vavoline. To use synthetic is a waste since 3000 mile interval is the recommended time frame for oil changes via ACURA. Go synthetic blend for 5000 mile intervals.
Old 09-08-2006 | 09:12 PM
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Use regular 5-20w Mobil or Vavoline. To use synthetic is a waste since 3000 mile interval is the recommended time frame for oil changes via ACURA. Go synthetic blend for 5000 mile intervals.
HUH? 3000 miles comes from the dealer, not ACURA!
Old 09-08-2006 | 09:28 PM
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If you go to a Jiffy Lube make sure its a corporate owned and not a franchise. Huge difference in service. Most people dont realize that and make idiotic blanket statements.
Old 09-09-2006 | 05:47 AM
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Thanks for the help guys~~
It will help a lot.
Old 09-09-2006 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by subinf
If you go to a Jiffy Lube make sure its a corporate owned and not a franchise. Huge difference in service. Most people dont realize that and make idiotic blanket statements.
I'm not sure they are idiotic blanket statements! I don't think a consumer needs to find who owns a store of a national franchise to guess what type of service they might get. It doesn't matter since the company doesn't prevent wide spread crappy and illegal service.

I don't use them since I do my own maintenance but wouldn't take the chance if I didn't. To me it's not worth the risk. But to each his own!
Old 09-09-2006 | 09:30 AM
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I know of two instances of my office mates going to quick oil change places and losing all oil pressure by the time they got home. The shops installed the wrong filter and the oil completely leaked out. The quick change places only give their employees a couple of minutes to service the car. What is the likelyhood they would notice a stuck oil filter gasket (remember the CRV recall) or that they would change the crush washer - about none.
Old 09-09-2006 | 10:31 AM
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HUH? 3000 miles comes from the dealer, not ACURA!
The AUCRA Dealership!
Old 09-09-2006 | 11:19 AM
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The AUCRA Dealership!
Wonder why ACURA bothered put in the OLM?
Old 09-09-2006 | 12:32 PM
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Wonder why ACURA bothered put in the OLM?
I use mine all the time.
Old 09-09-2006 | 03:39 PM
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What is an OLM?
Old 09-09-2006 | 07:30 PM
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Old 09-10-2006 | 02:30 AM
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i ususally use mobile 1 synthetic. i wouldnt trust jiffy lube to change your oil. I hear they re-use old oil, and mix it
Old 09-10-2006 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ImPoRtHoNdA
i ususally use mobile 1 synthetic. i wouldnt trust jiffy lube to change your oil. I hear they re-use old oil, and mix it

Where did you hear that? You are just as likely to get screwed by a dealer or an independent shop. As with everything, its all based on word of mouth recs. If you have a good local shop, whether its a Jiffy Lube or a small time mechanic, go to them. People have horror stories from dealerships as well. Dealers forget, dealers crash cars, its not like Jiffy Lube is an isolated story. Its really sad that people believe everything they are told.
Old 09-13-2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by subinf
Where did you hear that? You are just as likely to get screwed by a dealer or an independent shop. As with everything, its all based on word of mouth recs. If you have a good local shop, whether its a Jiffy Lube or a small time mechanic, go to them. People have horror stories from dealerships as well. Dealers forget, dealers crash cars, its not like Jiffy Lube is an isolated story. Its really sad that people believe everything they are told.

yah, that is true tho..
Old 09-13-2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ImPoRtHoNdA
yah, that is true tho..

its true that, in genral they use mixed oil or its true that there are always good and bad places to take your car?
Old 09-14-2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by subinf
its true that, in genral they use mixed oil or its true that there are always good and bad places to take your car?
I think he is referring to the mixed oil statement.

Do you know what has occurred at some Jiffy Lube locations that has been caught? You're not exactly defending them but I wonder if you acknowledge the magnitude of the problem Jiffy Lube has created for itself?

It's not very likely these things would continue to happen at a dealer or independent shop. They would most likely be more concerned about their reputation and/or being put out of business then Jiffy Lube is.

"This is the third time since 2003 Jiffy Lube said it is cleaning up it's act"
taken from the video at: http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9265802/detail.html

Full story link: http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9265933/detail.html
Old 09-14-2006 | 11:54 PM
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I use Mobil 1 with the Mobil M1-104 filter. Do oil changes yourself. Avoid places like Jiffy Lube.. just too many horror stories there. Besides, changing oil is a simple task.
the point he is making is do your own oil change. There are some things that a man should know how to do when it comes to his car. or take the time to do if you know how.

1. know how to change a damn tire
2. wash your own car
3. change your own oil

its easy
Old 09-15-2006 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by clsdave
I think he is referring to the mixed oil statement.

Do you know what has occurred at some Jiffy Lube locations that has been caught? You're not exactly defending them but I wonder if you acknowledge the magnitude of the problem Jiffy Lube has created for itself?

It's not very likely these things would continue to happen at a dealer or independent shop. They would most likely be more concerned about their reputation and/or being put out of business then Jiffy Lube is.

"This is the third time since 2003 Jiffy Lube said it is cleaning up it's act"
taken from the video at: http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9265802/detail.html

Full story link: http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9265933/detail.html

I understand there are problems. I've read the memos that were circulated between both franchise and corporate stores from headquarters. They are aware of the problem, but there is not much that can be done by way of franchise stores. The corporate stores are a different matter, and frankly dont experience the same type of problems.

As for independent shops and dealerships, you can't pinpoint just one for a national news story, but dont be so naive to think that bad things dont happen and customers arent overcharged. Jiffy Lube has insurance to fix problems that are caused by their employees, just like every other shop. Its easier to exploit the faults because of the number of stores.

In short, you will find these problems anywhere, and I'm sorry if you think otherwise.
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I guess I'll have to polity disagree you.

I just can't give a company a break when they are doing illegal things repeatedly after being caught and notified, when they are not isolated incidents that occurred over a period of years and the still continue at a high frequency. These practices and other poor work quality issues are not limited to the state of California. The Better Business Bureau is loaded with JL complaints all over the country. I understand that a high volume of customers will often produce a high volume of complaints. But the numbers are just too high and the type of complains are terrible. There are also plenty of current and settled class action suits against them which further proves my point.

I'm completely aware of poor quality/workman when service or repairs are needed. That's the reason I do most of my maintenance and repairs myself. Rarely, when I'm unable to do the work I go to an independently owned franchise tire/repair shop. Their honesty and quality is top notch and they charge reasonable prices. I've been using them for more than twenty years now and recommend them to others who after using them agree with my assessment.

I did have a quality and honesty problem with another shop from the same franchise. I could not schedule a convenient appointment at the shop I frequent so I went to one of their other shops for the first time and last. I had to go back to them so they could redo a tire problem (which they didn't). I found they had done crappy/dishonest work and they pocketed the money. They refunded my money and took their tire back when they knew I was aware of what they were doing.

It seems to me that the Jiffy Lube's reputation is damaged and is still at risk of getting worse. They should be extremely interested in stopping and preventing illegal practices at stores that use their name. They could certainly revoke the franchise agreement and/or legally pursue the shops with these practices if they wanted. My guess is if these problems continue in CA the state will shut them down.

An interesting site:
http://www.jiffylubeproblems.com/Remedies.htm

Again, I polity disagree you and will not side track this thread any further.
Old 09-16-2006 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by clsdave
I guess I'll have to polity disagree you.

I just can't give a company a break when they are doing illegal things repeatedly after being caught and notified, when they are not isolated incidents that occurred over a period of years and the still continue at a high frequency. These practices and other poor work quality issues are not limited to the state of California. The Better Business Bureau is loaded with JL complaints all over the country. I understand that a high volume of customers will often produce a high volume of complaints. But the numbers are just too high and the type of complains are terrible. There are also plenty of current and settled class action suits against them which further proves my point.

I'm completely aware of poor quality/workman when service or repairs are needed. That's the reason I do most of my maintenance and repairs myself. Rarely, when I'm unable to do the work I go to an independently owned franchise tire/repair shop. Their honesty and quality is top notch and they charge reasonable prices. I've been using them for more than twenty years now and recommend them to others who after using them agree with my assessment.

I did have a quality and honesty problem with another shop from the same franchise. I could not schedule a convenient appointment at the shop I frequent so I went to one of their other shops for the first time and last. I had to go back to them so they could redo a tire problem (which they didn't). I found they had done crappy/dishonest work and they pocketed the money. They refunded my money and took their tire back when they knew I was aware of what they were doing.

It seems to me that the Jiffy Lube's reputation is damaged and is still at risk of getting worse. They should be extremely interested in stopping and preventing illegal practices at stores that use their name. They could certainly revoke the franchise agreement and/or legally pursue the shops with these practices if they wanted. My guess is if these problems continue in CA the state will shut them down.

An interesting site:
http://www.jiffylubeproblems.com/Remedies.htm

Again, I polity disagree you and will not side track this thread any further.
i too 2nd that!
Old 09-17-2006 | 02:15 PM
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Just my :

I have had minor problems with all quick change oil places. I take my cars to a local mechanic or to the dealer depending on the nature of the problem.

The small independent mechanic, while *slightly* more expensive, has always given me great service and only does what is needed on the car. He has earned my trust and confidence. That will never happen at the Quicky Oil shops.

As for type of oil, I beleive any enigne with regular service (3000 - 10000 mile) intervals will stay in good shape. I grew up using Mobil products so I use Mobil 1 synthetic.

Cheers.
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