Duralast brake pads question...
03-06-2009, 11:23 AM
#41
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
please dont grease both sides of the shim- only the part where it contacts the pistons or fingers -depending on caliper typer
flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
03-07-2009, 06:48 AM
#42
Well...so far so good...although I WILL say that I was very modest with the amount. Like...very thin just to get it to stick to the back of the pad and then a little coating on the back. About bleeding the system and flushing it. How many bottles of brake fluid would do the trick please. I'm guessing backwash is when you respread your new calipers the fact that it pushes old fluid back up in the system?
Thank you!
Thank you!
03-09-2009, 02:11 PM
#43
please dont grease both sides of the shim- only the part where it contacts the pistons or fingers -depending on caliper typer
flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
03-09-2009, 02:14 PM
#44
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
03-09-2009, 03:13 PM
#45
Moderator
please dont grease both sides of the shim- only the part where it contacts the pistons or fingers -depending on caliper typer
flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
03-09-2009, 04:02 PM
#46
Burning Brakes
Can anybody else comment on the duralast cmax brake pads. I believe these brake pads are the top of the line model and I am currently looking for replacement brake pads that either match or exceed the OEM stopping power.
03-09-2009, 04:08 PM
#47
Moderator
They are not going to deliver the same braking performance as the OE pads. The Duralast Cmax pads are going to have less dust and may last longer, but the friction level is going to be lower and there will be more pedal effort required. These pads were not designed for performance.
03-09-2009, 05:56 PM
#48
Thank you sodaluvr...
He's right...but I WILL SAY that after a few days of breaking them in...it's not very noticeable for the type of driving I do. Let's say I'm not autocrossing...maybe an agressive corner here and there but nothing that screams "you should have spent 200 bucks for pads that will go quickly and leave your rims looking like crap all the time", if you know what I mean.
PLUS...I used the graphite CRC...it's not red. So you don't actually see any of it. I was very moderate in the application because sometimes too much can cause noise too because it creates a buffer.
I am not a Cmax representative...but someone in your position a week ago (thinking about what pads to go with and why). Just spreading the opinion.
He's right...but I WILL SAY that after a few days of breaking them in...it's not very noticeable for the type of driving I do. Let's say I'm not autocrossing...maybe an agressive corner here and there but nothing that screams "you should have spent 200 bucks for pads that will go quickly and leave your rims looking like crap all the time", if you know what I mean.
PLUS...I used the graphite CRC...it's not red. So you don't actually see any of it. I was very moderate in the application because sometimes too much can cause noise too because it creates a buffer.
I am not a Cmax representative...but someone in your position a week ago (thinking about what pads to go with and why). Just spreading the opinion.
03-09-2009, 06:03 PM
#49
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Thank you sodaluvr...
He's right...but I WILL SAY that after a few days of breaking them in...it's not very noticeable for the type of driving I do. Let's say I'm not autocrossing...maybe an agressive corner here and there but nothing that screams "you should have spent 200 bucks for pads that will go quickly and leave your rims looking like crap all the time", if you know what I mean.
PLUS...I used the graphite CRC...it's not red. So you don't actually see any of it. I was very moderate in the application because sometimes too much can cause noise too because it creates a buffer.
I am not a Cmax representative...but someone in your position a week ago (thinking about what pads to go with and why). Just spreading the opinion.
He's right...but I WILL SAY that after a few days of breaking them in...it's not very noticeable for the type of driving I do. Let's say I'm not autocrossing...maybe an agressive corner here and there but nothing that screams "you should have spent 200 bucks for pads that will go quickly and leave your rims looking like crap all the time", if you know what I mean.
PLUS...I used the graphite CRC...it's not red. So you don't actually see any of it. I was very moderate in the application because sometimes too much can cause noise too because it creates a buffer.
I am not a Cmax representative...but someone in your position a week ago (thinking about what pads to go with and why). Just spreading the opinion.
03-09-2009, 06:04 PM
#50
Moderator
Molykote 77 is a "dry" lube that is used for metal-to-metal contact points, such as shims and pad support plates. This stuff is not compatible with rubber.
Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance.
Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance.
03-09-2009, 06:54 PM
#51
i plan on using the duralast cmax gold in the near future....i just got done changing my oil and rotating my tires, and to my suprise at 20K miles it looks like i will need brakes in the next 5-10k miles....so we will see...i know for sure i can do the job in 20 minutes, so i look forward to that....
03-09-2009, 08:51 PM
#52
20 minutes is a long time for these..BUT I took my time doing them too. In my old age I'm realizing rushing through stuff and having to undo and redo because I missed a step is a lot more stressful than just thinking it out as I do it.
"Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance:"
That's the stuff...I bought it AND the reddish stuff for my rsx...didn't even realize that I had till I started looking for this pad change! Lol...i put it on and still not a peep out of them and it's been 4 days now.
"Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance:"
That's the stuff...I bought it AND the reddish stuff for my rsx...didn't even realize that I had till I started looking for this pad change! Lol...i put it on and still not a peep out of them and it's been 4 days now.
03-09-2009, 10:58 PM
#54
20 minutes is a long time for these..BUT I took my time doing them too. In my old age I'm realizing rushing through stuff and having to undo and redo because I missed a step is a lot more stressful than just thinking it out as I do it.
"Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance:"
That's the stuff...I bought it AND the reddish stuff for my rsx...didn't even realize that I had till I started looking for this pad change! Lol...i put it on and still not a peep out of them and it's been 4 days now.
"Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance:"
That's the stuff...I bought it AND the reddish stuff for my rsx...didn't even realize that I had till I started looking for this pad change! Lol...i put it on and still not a peep out of them and it's been 4 days now.
03-10-2009, 09:03 AM
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03-10-2009, 05:43 PM
#59
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Yea i went to normal parts websites mentioned above but thought there must be a cheaper place to buy them. I want to go with the oem pads because i want the stopping power they have. I don't mind the dust, i have to wipe the dust off my car every couple of days anyway, its not hard to wipe the wheels off while i'm at it.
03-10-2009, 08:53 PM
#60
Yea i went to normal parts websites mentioned above but thought there must be a cheaper place to buy them. I want to go with the oem pads because i want the stopping power they have. I don't mind the dust, i have to wipe the dust off my car every couple of days anyway, its not hard to wipe the wheels off while i'm at it.
03-10-2009, 09:08 PM
#61
I seriously find that you probably wouldn't know that I don't have OEM pads if you slammed on the brakes in my car. After a few days of them breaking in...I don't feel a difference. At first it felt a little less "grippy"...now it feels the same to me.
To each his own!
J.
To each his own!
J.
03-11-2009, 08:28 AM
#62
I seriously find that you probably wouldn't know that I don't have OEM pads if you slammed on the brakes in my car. After a few days of them breaking in...I don't feel a difference. At first it felt a little less "grippy"...now it feels the same to me.
To each his own!
J.
To each his own!
J.
03-11-2009, 11:53 AM
#63
Instructor
It also helps that we have 4 piston breaking power. Our calipers bite quite nicely compared to other vehicles. You really have to have a quality pad to support the load put on by the pistons. I'd be weary of putting duralast in the front brakes. Rear probably consider it.
03-16-2009, 08:58 PM
#64
Well...going on 2 weeks and so far so good...I guess I'll try and keep in mind how long they last. Nothing scary at all though as far as not feeling like it'll stop. Now that they're broken in, they are just like stock. No problems with going from semi metallic to ceramic without cleaning the rotors. I know it's not recommended but I decided to take a chance before going on the mission.
03-17-2009, 03:11 PM
#66
It also helps that we have 4 piston breaking power. Our calipers bite quite nicely compared to other vehicles. You really have to have a quality pad to support the load put on by the pistons. I'd be weary of putting duralast in the front brakes. Rear probably consider it.
03-21-2009, 11:38 PM
#68
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Also, can someone recommend a link showing the details of a brake job on a TL? I replaced several sets of brakes, however it has been over 15 years ago. Thanks in advance.
03-23-2009, 11:08 AM
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http://www.placeforbrakes.com/produc...&car_year=2004
actually I got Monroe stuff for 30 bux..
I've posted in wrong thread. Ooops
actually I got Monroe stuff for 30 bux..
I've posted in wrong thread. Ooops
03-23-2009, 11:20 AM
#75
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
http://www.placeforbrakes.com/produc...&car_year=2004
actually I got Monroe stuff for 30 bux..
I've posted in wrong thread. Ooops
actually I got Monroe stuff for 30 bux..
I've posted in wrong thread. Ooops
03-23-2009, 11:34 AM
#77
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
lol.. I was commenting on my reasons for posting in wrong section.. Glad the Monroe's are working for you.. I'm on DG Ceramics.. really happy with them.. nothing crazy but last evening I did about 4 stops 60-0 because the highway I was on had several intersections and I caught all the reds at the last second.. all stops felt great. I usually blow through them but after paying $200 for going through a Yellow last year I've changed my driving habits. 
03-23-2009, 11:53 AM
#78
wouldn't the crappy pads make the rotors last longer? wouldn't the "grippier" metallic brembos chew threw the metal faster? For 30 bucks...I'm sure you can't go wrong with the monroe stuff...I can say that I'm SUPER happy with the dust reduction having gone to ceramic pads. Rims look clean for almost a week now before needing love.
03-23-2009, 11:56 AM
#79
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
wouldn't the crappy pads make the rotors last longer? wouldn't the "grippier" metallic brembos chew threw the metal faster? For 30 bucks...I'm sure you can't go wrong with the monroe stuff...I can say that I'm SUPER happy with the dust reduction having gone to ceramic pads. Rims look clean for almost a week now before needing love.
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