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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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please dont grease both sides of the shim- only the part where it contacts the pistons or fingers -depending on caliper typer

flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
lol.. I second that. I spent 5 minutes rubbing the extra CRC off.. then it got on some of my clothes.. damn.
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Well...so far so good...although I WILL say that I was very modest with the amount. Like...very thin just to get it to stick to the back of the pad and then a little coating on the back. About bleeding the system and flushing it. How many bottles of brake fluid would do the trick please. I'm guessing backwash is when you respread your new calipers the fact that it pushes old fluid back up in the system?

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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
please dont grease both sides of the shim- only the part where it contacts the pistons or fingers -depending on caliper typer

flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
so your saying the diy is wrong since that guy put the anti squeal grease inbetween the pad and shim....
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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so your saying the diy is wrong since that guy put the anti squeal grease inbetween the pad and shim....
It's just tacky.. plus your wasting grease... unless you have red calipers and you want to match your new pads with the calipers.. ..
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
please dont grease both sides of the shim- only the part where it contacts the pistons or fingers -depending on caliper typer

flush the brake fluid first!!! avoids problems with backwash
outer nipple then inner on the brembo fronts
LF RF RR LF is the order
crc is a brand of synthetic brake caliper grease
It depends on the system. Honda recommends putting Molykote 77 on both sides of the detachable shim, but you are right, most pads do not need this.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Can anybody else comment on the duralast cmax brake pads. I believe these brake pads are the top of the line model and I am currently looking for replacement brake pads that either match or exceed the OEM stopping power.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Can anybody else comment on the duralast cmax brake pads. I believe these brake pads are the top of the line model and I am currently looking for replacement brake pads that either match or exceed the OEM stopping power.
They are not going to deliver the same braking performance as the OE pads. The Duralast Cmax pads are going to have less dust and may last longer, but the friction level is going to be lower and there will be more pedal effort required. These pads were not designed for performance.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Thank you sodaluvr...
He's right...but I WILL SAY that after a few days of breaking them in...it's not very noticeable for the type of driving I do. Let's say I'm not autocrossing...maybe an agressive corner here and there but nothing that screams "you should have spent 200 bucks for pads that will go quickly and leave your rims looking like crap all the time", if you know what I mean.

PLUS...I used the graphite CRC...it's not red. So you don't actually see any of it. I was very moderate in the application because sometimes too much can cause noise too because it creates a buffer.

I am not a Cmax representative...but someone in your position a week ago (thinking about what pads to go with and why). Just spreading the opinion.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Thank you sodaluvr...
He's right...but I WILL SAY that after a few days of breaking them in...it's not very noticeable for the type of driving I do. Let's say I'm not autocrossing...maybe an agressive corner here and there but nothing that screams "you should have spent 200 bucks for pads that will go quickly and leave your rims looking like crap all the time", if you know what I mean.

PLUS...I used the graphite CRC...it's not red. So you don't actually see any of it. I was very moderate in the application because sometimes too much can cause noise too because it creates a buffer.

I am not a Cmax representative...but someone in your position a week ago (thinking about what pads to go with and why). Just spreading the opinion.
That graphite CRC sounds pretty slick.. I'll have to check that out.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Molykote 77 is a "dry" lube that is used for metal-to-metal contact points, such as shims and pad support plates. This stuff is not compatible with rubber.

Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance.
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i plan on using the duralast cmax gold in the near future....i just got done changing my oil and rotating my tires, and to my suprise at 20K miles it looks like i will need brakes in the next 5-10k miles....so we will see...i know for sure i can do the job in 20 minutes, so i look forward to that....
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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20 minutes is a long time for these..BUT I took my time doing them too. In my old age I'm realizing rushing through stuff and having to undo and redo because I missed a step is a lot more stressful than just thinking it out as I do it.

"Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance:"

That's the stuff...I bought it AND the reddish stuff for my rsx...didn't even realize that I had till I started looking for this pad change! Lol...i put it on and still not a peep out of them and it's been 4 days now.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Wheres the best place to buy the oe brembo pads?
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
20 minutes is a long time for these..BUT I took my time doing them too. In my old age I'm realizing rushing through stuff and having to undo and redo because I missed a step is a lot more stressful than just thinking it out as I do it.

"Synthetic Caliper grease is used for slide pins and sometimes, pad shims. CRC's synthetic caliper grease also contains Moly and has a graphite like appearance:"

That's the stuff...I bought it AND the reddish stuff for my rsx...didn't even realize that I had till I started looking for this pad change! Lol...i put it on and still not a peep out of them and it's been 4 days now.
dude, i have to jacke up the car and take off the lugs and put them back on....thats got to account for atleast half the time....
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by vinnier6
dude, i have to jacke up the car and take off the lugs and put them back on....thats got to account for atleast half the time....
I have a compressor...and I'm part mexican so I work REALLY fast!!!
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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I have a compressor...and I'm part mexican so I work REALLY fast!!!
thats funny, i too have a compressor, but i am white and lazy when it comes to manual labor....
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Wheres the best place to buy the oe brembo pads?
www.acuraoemparts.com or www.oemacuraparts.com

About $160 with shipping.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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Lol...I have my lazy moments...but they pass quickly when I realize I'm wasting time dreading doing something.

160 for brake pads seems nuts to me.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Lol...I have my lazy moments...but they pass quickly when I realize I'm wasting time dreading doing something.

160 for brake pads seems nuts to me.
Yea i went to normal parts websites mentioned above but thought there must be a cheaper place to buy them. I want to go with the oem pads because i want the stopping power they have. I don't mind the dust, i have to wipe the dust off my car every couple of days anyway, its not hard to wipe the wheels off while i'm at it.
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Yea i went to normal parts websites mentioned above but thought there must be a cheaper place to buy them. I want to go with the oem pads because i want the stopping power they have. I don't mind the dust, i have to wipe the dust off my car every couple of days anyway, its not hard to wipe the wheels off while i'm at it.
there are better pads that stop better for less money...try excelerate or hawk....
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I seriously find that you probably wouldn't know that I don't have OEM pads if you slammed on the brakes in my car. After a few days of them breaking in...I don't feel a difference. At first it felt a little less "grippy"...now it feels the same to me.

To each his own!

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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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I seriously find that you probably wouldn't know that I don't have OEM pads if you slammed on the brakes in my car. After a few days of them breaking in...I don't feel a difference. At first it felt a little less "grippy"...now it feels the same to me.

To each his own!

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that would be my guess too...i suspect the intial feel was due to the old pad material still on the discs...once that was gone the new pads were just as good....if not better...i will know soon enough and report back and see if i have the same outcome as you....
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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It also helps that we have 4 piston breaking power. Our calipers bite quite nicely compared to other vehicles. You really have to have a quality pad to support the load put on by the pistons. I'd be weary of putting duralast in the front brakes. Rear probably consider it.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Well...going on 2 weeks and so far so good...I guess I'll try and keep in mind how long they last. Nothing scary at all though as far as not feeling like it'll stop. Now that they're broken in, they are just like stock. No problems with going from semi metallic to ceramic without cleaning the rotors. I know it's not recommended but I decided to take a chance before going on the mission.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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I have the cheapo Duralast pads on my TL now... It seems adequate, but at the same time, I don't race...
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Originally Posted by aquariussuperman
It also helps that we have 4 piston breaking power. Our calipers bite quite nicely compared to other vehicles. You really have to have a quality pad to support the load put on by the pistons. I'd be weary of putting duralast in the front brakes. Rear probably consider it.
the duralast pads arent made any differently then any other pads....
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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I tend to agree...plus, if they made a crappy ones and people died, they'd have to pull them.
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Part # DGC787 are for automatic transmission models.

You need Auto Zone part # DGC1049 for Brembos.
I have an automatic tran 2008 TL Type S w/ Brembos... which p/n do I use??

Also, can someone recommend a link showing the details of a brake job on a TL? I replaced several sets of brakes, however it has been over 15 years ago. Thanks in advance.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Use google to search or check out the 3G garage...
I can tell you that the Brembo's are the easiest pads ever.
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I just put them on last Sat. EZ install , no squeeks, good stopping power.
BTW I don't race.
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I just put them on last Sat. EZ install , no squeeks, good stopping power.
BTW I don't race.
perfect, how much were they, did they have them in stock, and did you do anyting to the rotors, or just install the pads....
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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just install pads...they were 60 bucks at autozone. and were in stock.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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http://www.placeforbrakes.com/produc...&car_year=2004
actually I got Monroe stuff for 30 bux..
I've posted in wrong thread. Ooops
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I already had slotted drilled rotors on it from previous crappy pads.
I'm satisfied with this monroe stuff.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackTiGeR
http://www.placeforbrakes.com/produc...&car_year=2004
actually I got Monroe stuff for 30 bux..
I've posted in wrong thread. Ooops
lol.. been there.. thank goodness for >edit >delete >why: cuz I'm a tard who has 10 AZ tabs open.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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hahaha, it's monday give me a break
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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hahaha, it's monday give me a break
lol.. I was commenting on my reasons for posting in wrong section.. Glad the Monroe's are working for you.. I'm on DG Ceramics.. really happy with them.. nothing crazy but last evening I did about 4 stops 60-0 because the highway I was on had several intersections and I caught all the reds at the last second.. all stops felt great. I usually blow through them but after paying $200 for going through a Yellow last year I've changed my driving habits.
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Originally Posted by BlackTiGeR
I already had slotted drilled rotors on it from previous crappy pads.
I'm satisfied with this monroe stuff.
wouldn't the crappy pads make the rotors last longer? wouldn't the "grippier" metallic brembos chew threw the metal faster? For 30 bucks...I'm sure you can't go wrong with the monroe stuff...I can say that I'm SUPER happy with the dust reduction having gone to ceramic pads. Rims look clean for almost a week now before needing love.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
wouldn't the crappy pads make the rotors last longer? wouldn't the "grippier" metallic brembos chew threw the metal faster? For 30 bucks...I'm sure you can't go wrong with the monroe stuff...I can say that I'm SUPER happy with the dust reduction having gone to ceramic pads. Rims look clean for almost a week now before needing love.
The dusting I've seen has been low and even.. If you looked at my wheels it's tough to discern what's brake dust and whats road dirt. I get disgusted when I see a ride with rich brake dust up front. :eyesore:
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I concur...like my TL prior to switching out the brembo pads, for example!? I'm happy, tha't's all that matters to me!
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