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Old 06-16-2004, 12:44 PM
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Discwelder Bronze -- problem...

For anyone who has attempted to burn their own DVD-Audio discs, I'm curious if you had to do any 'tweaking' to get it to work. I recorded my first 3 (DVD-R) discs, but they won't play in my TL. The disc-burning process seemed to go okay without any error messages.

Any thoughts from my fellow geeky TL owners?
Old 06-16-2004, 12:59 PM
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I first used memorex 2x blank.. it played thru about track 30 and quit (out of 65)

Then I used TDK, that worked perfectly.

I had to only fill it to about 94 or 95% full, it failed at 99% full.

Even if you give it a working directory, it somereason builds the DVD in C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\blah blah. which was on my C: drive which I only size to 8gb because the O/S only goes on it, all apps and data go on my D: drive which is a separate drive, so it filled my C: and crashed out.

I burned it with a BTC IDE1008 drive.

Group 1 only, you can't make multiple groups. and have to drag and drop each damn file down to the list one by one, keeping them all in Group 1.

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Thanks. I'll have to play with it some more.
And FYI, I found out that you can just double-click on the song files in the upper right frame in Discwelder and they pop down as seperate tracks. (In other words you dont have to actually drag the files down..)
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I'll have to try that, cuz it is so annoying.. I was dragging them down and dropping them ON THE WORD "GROUP 1" that was at the top of the list. Not just under the tracks that were already there, it wasn't adding them correctly when I did that.

Then of course you have to sit for 45 mins while it builds the structure then finally starts to burn. This is on my dual 1ghz PIII system with 2 7200rpm WD 8mb cache drives, and 2gb ram, so if it's the processors then so be it, but it aint the speed of the HDD's.. it's just a long build process.
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What I do is I dump all 99 tracks of music that I want into one directory. Then I just go down the list and double-click each file until I get through all 99. If I concentrate, it's not too bad
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For those of you Discwelder people who care to help, I'm still having a problem. I've recorded several DVDs which will only play on the computer on which they were burned -- not in the Acura or on any of my home DVD players.

Tech support at Discwelder has been someone vaugue with the latest suggestion to try "higher quality" media discs (such a Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden).

Has anyone using Discwelder encounterd problems with some blank discs but not others?
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are you using -R's or +R's. As I understand it, only the -R's work.
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Unfortunately, that's not the problem, cuz I read that on the boards and am using -Rs...

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What brand are you using?
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I was using some no-name brand I bought at OfficeMax (called "Platnium Series").
As we speak, I am buring a DVD-A onto a Verbatim disk. I've got my fingers crossed that this will work...
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I made a couple on Fuji discs last night that work great ($85 for 100 at Best Buy).

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Originally Posted by RGHessel
For anyone who has attempted to burn their own DVD-Audio discs, I'm curious if you had to do any 'tweaking' to get it to work. I recorded my first 3 (DVD-R) discs, but they won't play in my TL. The disc-burning process seemed to go okay without any error messages.

Any thoughts from my fellow geeky TL owners?
I use TDK 2X DVD-R in my NEC 2500 and have burned a few mostly full DVD-A and they work fine in the TL.
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Success! For what it's worth, the Verbatim disc I just burned worked perfectly. Evidently, the brand/quality of media actually seems to make a difference. Who would have thunk it!?

On a side note, the disc I burned included songs with regular (2-channel) versions as well as "surround sound" versions I created (with some hassle) using Besweet and Bidule (http://www.planetquake.com/filterfactory/3daudio.html).

I was disappointed to learn that I really couldn't hear any difference between the surround and regular versions of the songs. I suspect there are some settings I can tweak to enhance the surround effect, but I don't have any clue how to do that at this point...
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congrats. and yes, there is a HUGE difference in media. The reflectivity of the hind layer, the quality of the substrate that the laser destroys to make a "pit", even the amount of pre-write zones and laser calibration areas can vary from vendors. As I understand it, the ones made by Ritek are the best. They don't brand and sell them, they only make them, so you can't really tell if the blanks are made by them unless you get some lot #'s from other people who have them. There are plenty of programs out that will read the vendor from the disc itself so you can know who made them.

I've had to ditch memorex, and the TDK 2x's seem fine. I'm waiting to find a pack of 8x so I can test my burners at that speed. So far all I could find was memorex.

Glad it worked for ya.
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