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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 09:43 AM
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Daytime Running Light LED Conversion

I have specifically a 2007 TL.

I know this topic is like beating a dead horse. I've spent the last 2 hours researching prior posts regarding DRLs and LEDs.

My question is has anyone come across a 9005 LED bulb yet that has the proper resistance built into to not cause a DRL indicator on the dash. I understand that there are resistance kits out there to simulate the proper ohms to not have the indicator go on. Not that I couldn't do that, but it's always a PITA and looks like crap unless you really take everything apart to hide & tuck all the modules and wiring. I it's hard for me to believe that we have been talking about this since mid 2000's and it's 2015 and no LED light manufacturer has solved this issue.

Ultimate Goal:
Easy swap replacement of halogen bulb with LED bulb
Replace OEM dim brown light output with clean LED white output
No wiring of resistance kit
No DRL indicator

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LEDs to operate at max lumen
Ok to operate at 6w not full 65w
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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The only reason i haven't given up on this is because 2 years ago 2009 TSX came into the shop. He had installed LED DRL and had no DRL error indicator. I asked him where he got his bulbs and resistor kit from and he said he couldn't remember where he bought the bulbs from but didn't have to were in a resistance kit. It was just plug in play. They weren't bright and definitely had the same light out put as the stock DRLs, but both were on, no flickering, and no error code.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 09:55 AM
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AFAIK, nope.

I tried plugging in different types of LED bulbs in my car and they all lit up at about 1/3 brightness. I have heard of some members here saying they plugged in LED bulbs as DRLs, but I forget what bulbs they were and if there was any picture proof of it either.

Hiding the modules in the TL is easy and the wiring doesn't look too bad either. Just take your time and it can look clean.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dezymond
Hiding the modules in the TL is easy and the wiring doesn't look too bad either. Just take your time and it can look clean.
I know it can be done cleanly, but nothing is as clean, as not having to do it at all.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 10:23 AM
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I know it can be done cleanly, but nothing is as clean, as not having to do it at all.
You can do the relay resistor mod. No wires.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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To save hassle i leave mine stock after all the led drl in 3g tl isn't great looking like lexus nike led strip or tlx drl even the new accord v6 touring has decent led drl. Just my .02, put flame suit on.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:28 AM
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Well sure putting an LED bulb where the halogen usually goes isn't going to look the same as an Audi DRL, or the Lexus DRL.

It sure beats having the yellow halogen, though.

It's like upgrading my 2009 PC with a graphics card and comparing it to a new Alienware.
It's not gonna run the same as an Alienware but it will still be better than my current graphics card.

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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by polobunny
You can do the relay resistor mod. No wires.
I'm having trouble finding information in regards to this for DLR Lots of info for hyperflashing issues with LEDs in the turnsignals.

Originally Posted by truonghthe
To save hassle i leave mine stock after all the led drl in 3g tl isn't great looking like lexus nike led strip or tlx drl even the new accord v6 touring has decent led drl. Just my .02, put flame suit on.
I agreed, newer cars with LED DRL from the factory look better than 3G TL's with stock DLR bulb swapped with LED. If you would have seen this TSX I saw, it looked great. Yes the LED was dim, but the light output was clean white, not Edison light bulb brown.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:37 AM
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Wow, my grammar, punctuation, and overall use of English is not good today. TGIF
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 12:20 PM
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polobunny probably confused DRL for turn signals.

I don't believe there is a DRL relay mod, although it is 100% possible, just no one has ventured there.

If you don't care for brightness, just pick up 50W 8ohm resistors that plug and play.
One end plugs into your LED bulb and the other end plugs into the stock connector.
No wire harness across your engine bay.

Amazon.com: Afterpartz 2x 50W 8OHM 9005 Canbus No Error Car LED Light Warning Cancelling Load Resistors: Automotive Amazon.com: Afterpartz 2x 50W 8OHM 9005 Canbus No Error Car LED Light Warning Cancelling Load Resistors: Automotive
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
polobunny probably confused DRL for turn signals.

I don't believe there is a DRL relay mod, although it is 100% possible, just no one has ventured there.

If you don't care for brightness, just pick up 50W 8ohm resistors that plug and play.
One end plugs into your LED bulb and the other end plugs into the stock connector.
No wire harness across your engine bay.

Amazon.com: Afterpartz 2x 50W 8OHM 9005 Canbus No Error Car LED Light Warning Cancelling Load Resistors: Automotive
Oopsies, I sure did. Thanks for having my back.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 03:59 PM
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BTW can anyone tell me what a DRL decoder does, I understand how the load resistor works.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintech
BTW can anyone tell me what a DRL decoder does, I understand how the load resistor works.
If you use an LED bulb in a DRL, it'll strobe (which I assume would be annoying to others as well as get you pulled over)- a decoder acts to keep the LED's on without the strobe effect. Most sellers of LEDs sell the decoders, including for the TL. I know IJDMToy.com has them (they're pretty cheap).
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 04:09 PM
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^^I don't know about that...

Decoder is the same thing as canceler, or Error Eliminator. It is done by the resistors.

There are ONLY two things that a DRL LED harness does.

1. It removes the DRL error on your dash. This is done by the resistors.
2. It provides FULL 12V power, instead of 6V power. This is done by a relay which activates to take power from the battery (which is 12V).

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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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^^

Correct

The car only has 6v power at the DRLs hence why we need the harness, for full 12v power. Other than that we just need load resistors to avoid the bulb out warning on the dash.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:05 AM
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Unfortunately OP, your requirements necessitate a load of some sorts. Meaning somewhere along the DRL circuit, there has to be an actual load or simulated load so the DRL light will turn off..



Or hell just electrical tape the damn DRL light (or pull the cluster and pull the DRL light bulb/ unsolder it) and it seems like that should fulfill what you want.

To sum up what everyone else said:

Resistors only job is to simulate load so as to get rid of the DRL light on dash.
Relay is to provide 12V (full power aka full brightness) to DRL bulbs.

You won't need relay if you don't care about brightness. But you'll need a resistor to get rid of DRL light on dash.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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Would these work?

2007-08 Acura TL Error Free 9005 HB3 LED Daytime Running Lights
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 01:59 PM
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Yes that's the whole kit.
Harness + bulbs.

Those bulbs are dim, and very prone to failure.
Much better to buy just the harness, and pick out your own bulbs elsewhere.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 08:30 AM
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Well it looks like the route I will have to go will be LED bulb & load resistor. I do not mind having them run at 6V opposed to the full 12V. When I saw them running at what appeared to be half power (6V) on the TSX it had a nice subtle look.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 03:50 PM
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I picked these up recently to replace the crappy tower LED that came with my iJDMtoy harness. They look much better and are nice and white, even in direct sunlight like what I had it in when I just installed it about an hour ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111402517126?item=111402517126&viewitem=&vxp=mtr
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:54 PM
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If you're looking for some additional info using a wiring harness and resistors, have a look here: https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...arness-886903/

These are the bulbs I use: 10 XB HB3 9005 H10 9145 LED DRL/FOG LIGHT BULBS | 1 PAIR - 9005 HB3 - Shop Bulb #

I also have LED switchbacks in the turn signals and did the resistor relay mod. This was all done back in 2013 so it's all a bit hazy now. Link to the turn signal bulbs: 6K TYPE 2 DUAL COLOR CHANGING WHITE AMBER SWITCHBACK 42 HIGH POWER LED TURN SIGNAL BULBS 1157 2057 | 1 PAIR <-- these things are VERY bright although I'm sure they're not as bright or expensive as Tritons.

Best of luck,
Jon
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