crazymjb

I just read and interesting article on CVTs. Since most people here are really into there car I suggest you take a look: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/cvt.htm I was wondering if acura is doing any work with these and if there are plans to have them released in the fourth gen TL. It seems like there is less to break and you keep 25% more power. That seems like it would go great in our sporty TL. It also seems appropriate since we arent throwing out tons of Torque. (sorry if this is in the wrong place)

P.S. The article takes 10 minutes to go over and I really learned a lot from it, so I suggest taking a look, they have a few good animations too. This one shows how major a difference there is(mid way through the page: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/cvt9.htm

caball88

audi tried to push their cvt technology but has been pretty unsuccessful as reliability has been a big issue. its a good concept on paper but has not been executed sucessfully. traditional auto trannies have been improving alot more over the years and i don't think honda would venture off too soon on new cvt tech. there is no real demand for it so its not worth the $$$ in R&D right now.

3PUTT

this is pretty much a dead issue. it did not do too well i guess. companies like audi, nissan (murano), ford (five hundred), and saturn (vue) used this but it might be shelved pretty soon. i think i read an article somewhere that this technology is not going anywhere.

crazymjb

It is definatly great on paper, and it is really unfortunate that they cant get it to work perfectly because it shows a lot of potential. Neighther of the designs look like they could take high torque, but if they can overcome the slippage(in the tordial design at least) I think that could be seen on a lot of future cars.

MR1

I did not follow the link but think I know something about the constant velocity transmision. First of all it is currently in use by Honda and Ford among others if I'm not mistaken.

The Civic &/or Accord Hybrid have it as an option? Most if not all of the kinks have been worked out but there is some buyer resistance because of strange or weird characteristics.

Try a little more reserch. BTW Crazymjb, what kind of grades are you getting? Are you spending any time with flesh and blood people you own age, just curious. None of my business but would hate it if you are not doing other stuff you should be.

crazymjb

Haha. Yup. In fact my friend and I are building a dirtbike with an old 43cc engine and mountain bike. The engine is pretty small but it should move.

MR1

-Hijack-

How bout them grades kid?

youngTL

The Accord Hybrid has a 5 speed automatic.

TLProspect

But the Civic does have it available in one of the models.

F23A4

....that probably goes along with this assessment:

"Nissan is being careful not to over emphasize the CVT in their marketing of the Murano even though they have spent lots of money in the development of the technology over a couple decades, have used it for years in "foreign" markets, and some racing. I believe the reluctance is not due to the engineering, I believe it's due to the "American Market". Our reluctance to embrace new ideas, especially given the Subaru experience. We tend to not let the facts get in the way, urban legends are much more important after all."

Link

Nissan CVT explained

crazymjb

As and Bs(with the exception of english).

Repecat

Obviously!

mclarenf3387

I doubt they would add it to the TL, even if Honda started using it. It takes away the sportyness of the since it never "shifts".

And I can see how some might be resistant to it. The first time I drove my moms Murano it felt like the engine and trans were locked in at 2000 RPM but the car kept excelerating In fact, I've never seen the RPM pass 3000 RPM since my mom got it.

Maybe if we could get Audis DSG

crazymjb

Yah, it seems less responsive, but it actually allows for better acceleration. If it could give the TL 0-60 in 5 or under I wouldnt care about the loss of sport shifting.

MR1

As much as you read and write on this forum you should be getting better english grades but you have to do the work assigned.

Get the english grade up or no TL, with or without a CVT.
Good job on the others though.

Did you convince the lawyer to buy a TL yet?

crazymjb

I do great on the grammer, just poorly on the comprehension of romeo and juliet, and the odyssey(which is greek literature by the way). A+ in physics and A in auto tech(I asked the teacher today, who is a 100% certified auto technician, about CVTs and he had never heard of them, so I pointed him in the direction of howstuffworks)!!!

vishnus11

One sick tranny. Just drove the shit outta my uncles 05 TT with the DSG gearbox. Damn. No power interruption during upshifts. Slurs from gear to gear like an auto in normal conditions. The Sport mode is freakin aggressive. The paddle shifters rock (although you'll lose track of then in tight twisties sometimes since their mounted to the steering wheel). What a great tranny. I'm thinking that this is probably the future of the automatic tranny.

The reason I say automatic, is because I still think manuals will be around. As much fun as it was, the DSG is just a hair (just a smidge!) short of the fun that can be had in a manual. Nothing like that direct mechanical connection with a car. Which is why outta the new supercars (SLR, Carrera GT, Enzo) - I'd pick the carrera, cause its the only one with a six speed. And a removable roof is kinda fun too!

BTW, the 1996 - 2000 Honda Civic HX's came with CVT autos.

crazymjb

It would be cool to see an auto with force feedback, even though its not directly connected. But then...Something else to break.