Custom 4 and 6 piston Big Brake Kit for Front and Rear (04-05TL) - Feeler Thread
07-18-2005, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by samkws
i will doubt the kit will beat rotora's 1300 USD mark, my guess should be around 1500
the calipers alone are 300 each, not including rotors and hats and pads and brakelines, and also the brackets
even as a package it is hard to do 1300 with a 13" rotor
the calipers alone are 300 each, not including rotors and hats and pads and brakelines, and also the brackets
even as a package it is hard to do 1300 with a 13" rotor
07-18-2005, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 6speedv6
That's for front only, right??? 1,500 for the 4 wheels is still good.
1500 just for the front only, that's what i paid for my 6 pistons front kit
the rear usually cost more than the front coz it needs to be customize with the parking brake
here's the breakdown for my set:
slightly used calipers and bracket and brakeline: 650
new rotors and hats: 700
new pads: 80
install+drain brake fluid: 150
07-18-2005, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by samkws
i think you are dreaming
1500 just for the front only, that's what i paid for my 6 pistons front kit
the rear usually cost more than the front coz it needs to be customize with the parking brake
here's the breakdown for my set:
slightly used calipers and bracket and brakeline: 650
new rotors and hats: 700
new pads: 80
install+drain brake fluid: 150
1500 just for the front only, that's what i paid for my 6 pistons front kit
the rear usually cost more than the front coz it needs to be customize with the parking brake
here's the breakdown for my set:
slightly used calipers and bracket and brakeline: 650
new rotors and hats: 700
new pads: 80
install+drain brake fluid: 150
07-19-2005, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 6speedv6
Well, right now I am cuz prices have not been set yet.
as i said, the rear cost as much as the front
07-19-2005, 03:28 AM
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I am interested but need to know better quotes on pricing straight from manufacturer. "rumors" don't suffice. Wilwood is has an excellent reputation and I am willing to invest in their products when hard numbers for the second gen TL are given. Six pot preferably. 
07-19-2005, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by samkws
i am safe to say 2500 for 4 wheels is the amount you would be expecting, if u look for a DEEP discount
as i said, the rear cost as much as the front
as i said, the rear cost as much as the front
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07-19-2005, 10:49 PM
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I have these brakes on my Del Sol they work awesome. i am so on this deal for the 6 speed i need the drilled for the front rotor. i hope i can just pick up these disk. but i do want to upgrade the back as well 
i was just going to call them today
i was just going to call them today
07-21-2005, 07:10 AM
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will you be autoxing and road racing your car? if not, the 8 piston or any of these calipers wont even help you. they give you bigger bite, but as i stated earlier, without r compounds, these calipers will do nothing. your stock rotors can lock up your wheels.
I just wish PBR made some deluxe style pads for the front brakes, they seem to make pads for the auto trans cas, but not for the brembo setup.
I had the PBR deluxe pads on my Passat, great pads, good wear, no dust,
good bite, quiet, hopefully they will start making them for the brembo setup...
The stock pads dust up big time!
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07-21-2005, 10:09 AM
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I have a question about this. What is the volume per piston on the 6 piston setup compared to the 4 piston, or the stock brembos. Also if going with the 6 piston setup, wouldn't the master cylinder have to be replaced with a larger volume one?
07-21-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by shalinz
I have a question about this. What is the volume per piston on the 6 piston setup compared to the 4 piston, or the stock brembos. Also if going with the 6 piston setup, wouldn't the master cylinder have to be replaced with a larger volume one?
You do the math.
07-28-2005, 07:23 PM
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My brake kit should be ready to mount on my vehicle around the second week of August, the guys going to the so-cal meet on August 18th will see my car completely done with the brakes and wheels.
If you are interested in getting this kit before August, please post here, so that I can really push this company to go ahead and become a sponsored vendor. They havent seen enough interest to really push them to become a vendor, and I think that there is enough interest to get them to do it.
Fitz
If you are interested in getting this kit before August, please post here, so that I can really push this company to go ahead and become a sponsored vendor. They havent seen enough interest to really push them to become a vendor, and I think that there is enough interest to get them to do it.
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07-29-2005, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Lokius
My brake kit should be ready to mount on my vehicle around the second week of August, the guys going to the so-cal meet on August 18th will see my car completely done with the brakes and wheels.
If you are interested in getting this kit before August, please post here, so that I can really push this company to go ahead and become a sponsored vendor. They havent seen enough interest to really push them to become a vendor, and I think that there is enough interest to get them to do it.
Fitz
If you are interested in getting this kit before August, please post here, so that I can really push this company to go ahead and become a sponsored vendor. They havent seen enough interest to really push them to become a vendor, and I think that there is enough interest to get them to do it.
Fitz
Don't worry, I'm in. I'll put the deposit in if it'll help you guys get your sets earlier. I don't mind waiting for mine (paying balance later if it's cool with them) cuz there's too much momentum going on right now with one of my stock pics and have been scrambling to divert more funds to pick up more and with the new trading regulations, it's a fuggin' bitch. Made over $5k this week and gonna ride this one hard! Sorry, not trying to pull yer leg but when opportunity knocks, I gotsta do what I gotta do. If things work out right, hell I may have my car paid off by the end of next month....
I got a VM from your connect. Don't worry, I'll hit him up. I'm on it... -ed-
07-29-2005, 03:36 AM
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Hey Fitz,
Don't worry, I'm in. I'll put the deposit in if it'll help you guys get your sets earlier. I don't mind waiting for mine (paying balance later if it's cool with them) cuz there's too much momentum going on right now with one of my stock pics and have been scrambling to divert more funds to pick up more and with the new trading regulations, it's a fuggin' bitch. Made over $5k this week and gonna ride this one hard! Sorry, not trying to pull yer leg but when opportunity knocks, I gotsta do what I gotta do. If things work out right, hell I may have my car paid off by the end of next month....
I got a VM from your connect. Don't worry, I'll hit him up. I'm on it... -ed-
Don't worry, I'm in. I'll put the deposit in if it'll help you guys get your sets earlier. I don't mind waiting for mine (paying balance later if it's cool with them) cuz there's too much momentum going on right now with one of my stock pics and have been scrambling to divert more funds to pick up more and with the new trading regulations, it's a fuggin' bitch. Made over $5k this week and gonna ride this one hard! Sorry, not trying to pull yer leg but when opportunity knocks, I gotsta do what I gotta do. If things work out right, hell I may have my car paid off by the end of next month....
I got a VM from your connect. Don't worry, I'll hit him up. I'm on it... -ed-
I'll show you how this chi-town transplant in the bay throws down
07-29-2005, 03:38 PM
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i will do it of they make rotors for the front of my car i have the stock brembos and they are plenty i just need a drillerd rotor for the front. if they make it i will do the rear
07-29-2005, 03:54 PM
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I talked to Bent at the brake company, and he recomends the dynalite 4 piston for the rear combined with a brake pressure distribution thing that will help the ABS electronics cope with the added performance of the caliper. Superlites will match the Brembos up front which will mess up the 75f/25r (or something like that) brake distribution of our cars. Unless you have stiffer springs and struts, a big wing, and slicks, in which it is like 65/35 (f/r)
Having a slotted rotor for the front would also be really cool. I am also considering something like that. Full rear upgrade + front rotors.
Talk to Loki. He'll give you more info on who to call.
Having a slotted rotor for the front would also be really cool. I am also considering something like that. Full rear upgrade + front rotors.
Talk to Loki. He'll give you more info on who to call.
07-29-2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lokius
Tires help braking signifigantly, but it's still the brakes that stop a car. And I have seen lots of big brake kits that have helped the performance of a vehicle, when they were designed mainly for looks.
Yes this kit is mainly for looks, but isn't that the whole point? We are driving a FWD car, a heavy car as well. Wheels make this thing look amazing, and by the preference for the brembo calipers on the manual, It's obvious that brakes make this car look even better. Alot of the stuff you have said only applies to certain wilwood components, the stuff we are using are the components that have been tested to more efficient and cost effective, any brake kit this company sells isnt going to hurt your vehicle, but add to it both from looks and performance.
Yes this kit is mainly for looks, but isn't that the whole point? We are driving a FWD car, a heavy car as well. Wheels make this thing look amazing, and by the preference for the brembo calipers on the manual, It's obvious that brakes make this car look even better. Alot of the stuff you have said only applies to certain wilwood components, the stuff we are using are the components that have been tested to more efficient and cost effective, any brake kit this company sells isnt going to hurt your vehicle, but add to it both from looks and performance.
What is this world coming to? You are better off getting some rotors for 1/5 of the cost and paint your calipers if you're just doing it for looks.
This is like buying a Ferrari to go get groceries. But then again, it's your money. BBK is totally unnecessary unless you track your car, and a complete waste of money otherwise.
07-29-2005, 04:06 PM
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On another note, for the people only buying the rear kit... have you given a thought to brake bias? Unless you upgrade the front to increase the braking force parallel to that of the upgraded rear brakes, you will have more rear brake bias... good luck driving in the snow or in the rain and you have to suddenly brake hard.
Or maybe you just want to build a drifter out of your TL.
Or maybe you just want to build a drifter out of your TL.
07-29-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BloodFart
On another note, for the people only buying the rear kit... have you given a thought to brake bias? Unless you upgrade the front to increase the braking force parallel to that of the upgraded rear brakes, you will have more rear brake bias... good luck driving in the snow or in the rain and you have to suddenly brake hard.
Or maybe you just want to build a drifter out of your TL.
Or maybe you just want to build a drifter out of your TL.
07-31-2005, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lokius
More information about the brakes coming, as well as templates..
Please post if you havent and you are interested in this brake kit. Thanks
Fitz
Please post if you havent and you are interested in this brake kit. Thanks
Fitz
07-31-2005, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BloodFart
BBK just for looks...
What is this world coming to? You are better off getting some rotors for 1/5 of the cost and paint your calipers if you're just doing it for looks.
This is like buying a Ferrari to go get groceries. But then again, it's your money. BBK is totally unnecessary unless you track your car, and a complete waste of money otherwise.
What is this world coming to? You are better off getting some rotors for 1/5 of the cost and paint your calipers if you're just doing it for looks.
This is like buying a Ferrari to go get groceries. But then again, it's your money. BBK is totally unnecessary unless you track your car, and a complete waste of money otherwise.
Ya I agree with you there but I got mine cuz it definitely improves braking and for the looks.
07-31-2005, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by shalinz
I have a question about this. What is the volume per piston on the 6 piston setup compared to the 4 piston, or the stock brembos. Also if going with the 6 piston setup, wouldn't the master cylinder have to be replaced with a larger volume one?
6 pistons gives more control with the brake system vs the 4 pistons, and you can feel the difference if u track the car a lot
also....BBK isn't just for looks if u decide to go to the track, while the stock brakes cannot hold more than 3 laps of a road course, my BBK is capable of doing 6 laps or more without the brakes fading, and the braking power is awesome...my street pads with compound "E" is good for 1000 degrees
i should have use the "B" comound for racing, which can go up to 1300 degrees... but with a slotted/drilled rotor i don't want to crack it that soon
i didn't try more than 6 laps not because my brakes, it's my tires that were overheating so i couldn't go more
08-03-2005, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
So bbk makes a drilled rotor for the brembo set up?
08-03-2005, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
were did you get the bbk rotors from? 
i am running on street pads so i decided not to opt for the more expensive slotted rotors
the 13" rotor costs me 325 USD each with the hat, it's the wilwood SRT series rotor
08-08-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraluvr
What would be a 'right price?' how much are brake kits usually?
Front Rotora's are about 1,500. (4 piston)
Front Wilwood's are about 1,600. ??? (6 piston)