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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Converting an automatic transmission to a manual transmission?

i bought my acura TL-S (2008) around the same month it was released. the dealers around here (new jersey) told me that if i wanted a manual transmission, i would have to wait atleast 2 months. i needed the car as soon as possible so i was compelled to buying it automatic. i would much rather have a manual transmission. i thought about changing the transmission from auto to manual, but i dont want any mechanical problems from this. anyone have experience with something similar to this? all advice is appreciated.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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SWAPS? bro.. tell u the truth go bak 2 the dealer and trade in ur AT S IMHO,

better off doin that since its gonna cost u $$ just my
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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You'll save money doing the trade in, the parts for the M/T are pretty expensive, and it'll take you a lot of time. Also add the fact that there will be no warranty for the transmission and it's components (clutch, flywheel, slave cylinder, etc.)
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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If you had an old gen2, like a 2000- it would cost you 8-10 grand for the different motor and trans- computers and all- wiring harness change etc.
Gen3- I dont even want to guess! It wont bolt onto your engine I bet~

The choice is BUY what you wanted in the first place
Or: use SS mode as a gearshift without needing a clutch- the ultimate full synchro transmission, or stomp the foot rest like it was the clutch if that makes you feel better.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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If you want the MT, then you should of waited. Like everyone had say, you will be spend a lot more $$ to convert AUTO to MT.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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trade it in
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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This has been done on a 2G TL but I would at least wait until your warranty is up.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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yea dude.. what your thinking about is a big NONO.... jus go trade it in and lose the money....

u will lose just as much money as getting a swap and to top that u wont get a warranty... so go trade it in asap!
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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C'mon, that seems perfectly reasonable. Go for it!
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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Are you serious?? I have done it in a 93 Mustang Gt, not a big deal. I would never even consider doing it to a brand new car with a warranty!!!
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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That's the wackiest idea I've heard. Should have waited for the 6MT or bought it from another dealer...the swap would ruin a new car and take longer than waiting, not even considering the cost
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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trade your TL in and get a KIA...do you deserve a TL after creating a thread like this? LOL wtf?

wtf is wrong with you? if you really wanted it that bad, you should've waited?! and RENTED SOME POS for 2 months, then gotten ur MT

this thread is useless
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gauravp123
:wtf:

trade your TL in and get a KIA

wtf is wrong with you? if you really wanted it that bad, you should've waited?! and RENTED SOME POS for 2 months, then gotten ur MT
He's 18 and doesn't think about things like that.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock
He's 18 and doesn't think about things like that.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I'm with above stupid


OP is just ridiculous...
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Should have talked to your parents oh wise one
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ggesq
trade it in
it's not worth the money, time and effort to swap.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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AT to Manual conversion is not at all worth it, costs $$$$$. Get a manual or forget about it.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gauravp123


trade your TL in and get a KIA...do you deserve a TL after creating a thread like this? LOL wtf?

wtf is wrong with you? if you really wanted it that bad, you should've waited?! and RENTED SOME POS for 2 months, then gotten ur MT

this thread is useless
wow..
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Unbelievable! Why not get it painted a different color also?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Just trade it in. Huge hassle. Not worth the effort.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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I suggest some of you re-read this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168021
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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yah it has only about 4000 miles on it. i just need to know now how much would the price difference be for a trade in.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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What did you pay for it and how much you owe?

I tried trading my o7 TL-s in with 4000 miles and was getting raped even by acura. I paid 33,700 before tax and title and tags and the best offer I got was 29,500 for trade in.

You could try selling it personally but you would only be able to get 1000 to 1500 more then the dealer would offer on the trade and thats not worth the hassle of selling personally. You might get a little better offer cause your is AT and AT's have better resale.

So what your looking at is at the most getting 30k for the trade in and then do the math from there. How much negative equity + new car + tax + dealer ass rapping.

I would wait until you have more miles on your car, cause the trade in value is not going to go down much when you have 10k miles vs 4k miles and then you would be carrying over less negative equity or try and find a used MT, GOOD LUCK LOL, might have to go out of state for that the MT are so rare and people that buy MT do so for a reason and love their f*cking cars. Maybe a dealer with a used MT Type-S would give you a good deal for your AT knowing the will have an easier time getting rid of an AT.

Your basically screwed
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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You are definitely in a tough position here. I like evanj's suggestion a lot. Try to swap with a used 6MT. From what I have read on this forum, the 07 and 08 Type S are exactly the same, so it doesn't completely matter which one you get (although it would kind of sukk to get an older model year). Do a region or nationwide search on cars.com (that's how I found my 6MT). If you put "manual" in the search criteria, you will narrow down the hundreds of TL's for sale to about 20-30 (nationwide). Make sure you check the interior photos to MAKE SURE it is a 6MT. A lot of those dikkhead dealers listing the cars write "automanual" to indicate it has the auto-shift capability (damn, that was annoying when searching for a 6MT).

If you can find the color you like with acceptable mileage and within your travelling distance, try to come up with what you are willing to pay in difference. If you find an 07, I would think you should be out of pocket less than $2K, possibly under $1K. Too bad you couldn't wait when first buying, but hey, hindsight is 20/20. Either way, it's sunk cost now. Don't worry about it and try to fix the problem as cheaply as possible.

I know how you feel - I don't think I would want an auto TL for very long either. I travelled to Chicago (from VA ~800 mi) to get my used 07 KBP 6MT in Dec 07! About 24 hours of my time well spent to get the EXACT car I wanted.

Good luck.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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What if your transmission was shot and needed to be replaced, how much would it cost to have them put in a manual instead of an auto replacement in there, compared to just putting in another auto?
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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this is why one should wait for the car they want..........
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TLAdvanced
Are you serious?? I have done it in a 93 Mustang Gt, not a big deal. I would never even consider doing it to a brand new car with a warranty!!!


, did a 1969 Mustang Mach I for my nephew IIRC in 1985.

Converted a 351 Windsor with an automatic to a 351 Cleavland with a 4 speed top loader & LSD.

Would never try it on a brand new car due to the end product not being worth cost.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
this is why one should wait for the car they want..........
x2
i totally agree......i got my tl in auto and now want the 6 spd reall bad, but i made the choice to go with auto cause i really needed the car........
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Babnik
What if your transmission was shot and needed to be replaced, how much would it cost to have them put in a manual instead of an auto replacement in there, compared to just putting in another auto?
^ this is the new question guys!

It would cost the dealer quite a bit, you would need:
Clutch Assembly
New ECU
New Guages
New wire harnesses for motor
New transmission - acura covered
interior trim
Shift cables
and some other stuff, maybe subframe...

Basically it will cost you maybe 4-6K easily for the other stuff...
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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I really don't understand this topic LOL. I mean a TL is a TL to me and to have such a nice vehicle as the Type-S, come on, is it really *that bad* driving an AT vs. the manual you say you really want? There are pros and cons to either tranny, and I think the modern AT transmissions (ESPECIALLY on a TL-S) are close to a manual and would shift when I would anyway, etc. You have the car you have so just deal with it and when you are sitting in traffic, enjoy the convenience of the auto and be thankful for it. When you feel like shifting for yourself, put it in Manual mode. IMO it's a pretty darn good compromise over getting really screwed over on a trade-in.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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yeah jus like what everyone else is saying, save yourself theheadache and trade it in for a manual if thats what u want
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gauravp123


trade your TL in and get a KIA...do you deserve a TL after creating a thread like this? LOL wtf?

wtf is wrong with you? if you really wanted it that bad, you should've waited?! and RENTED SOME POS for 2 months, then gotten ur MT

this thread is useless
Originally Posted by gauravp123
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OP is just ridiculous...
Wow, such anger lol.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by paliknight
i bought my acura TL-S (2008) around the same month it was released. the dealers around here (new jersey) told me that if i wanted a manual transmission, i would have to wait atleast 2 months. i needed the car as soon as possible so i was compelled to buying it automatic. i would much rather have a manual transmission. i thought about changing the transmission from auto to manual, but i dont want any mechanical problems from this. anyone have experience with something similar to this? all advice is appreciated.
Tranny swaps are NEVER worth the time/money, IMHO. Just drive what you got.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:05 AM
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do you really need the manual?
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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I did major work on the op's car last week, trust me, he doesn't mind he has an auto anymore
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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i got a 2007 tl-s NBP 6MT and i love it i race mi buddies auto and always pull at least a car lenght (sotck vs. stock)
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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I suggest some of you re-read this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168021

Those of you who have been here a while will not even get a PM warning.

you will just wonder why you cant login
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Ahhh to be young again... I remember when I was 19 and full of such crazy thoughts...

Well.. I still have crazy thoughts, but most involve Swedish flight attendants.... but I digress...

Keep the AT... It's actually pretty damn good. Save your money and get some sweet mods, you'll be a lot happier.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Important read for some of the posters to this thread

David Pogue offers a plausible explanation for some of the posts in this thread:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/...pogue-email-2/
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