Which car would you buy?
05-12-2005, 04:33 PM
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Which car would you buy?
A 2005 TL or
I have found the last 330i ZHP with Navigation. It also has Black Leather, Heated Seats and Xennons
$41,450, they are firm on the price, as it is the last one in the Western US.
I have found the last 330i ZHP with Navigation. It also has Black Leather, Heated Seats and Xennons
$41,450, they are firm on the price, as it is the last one in the Western US.
05-12-2005, 04:44 PM
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can i ask why you wouldn't look at the new 3(2006)? IMO you would save alot of money with the TL; now and in the long run. obviously i'm a little bias.
is it the last new one in the western US? somehow i'm assuming the dealer told you that, and that doesn't sit well with me.
is it the last new one in the western US? somehow i'm assuming the dealer told you that, and that doesn't sit well with me.
05-12-2005, 04:57 PM
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I have had several dealers check, and it was one that told me where this car was.
I don't like the new e90, and in the long run, would prefer to get the TL, put some classic wheels on it, and turn the Navi into a TV, and still save some money.
Michael
I don't like the new e90, and in the long run, would prefer to get the TL, put some classic wheels on it, and turn the Navi into a TV, and still save some money.
Michael
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05-12-2005, 05:44 PM
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'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
One of my friends is broke because his m coupe is so expensive to maintain(oil changes, parts, etc) Rule of thumb, honda parts are cheaper then bimmer parts. But if thats no issue, i think the tl looks more aggressive and more stylish. Its up to you in the end but I would go with the ac. Either way, you arent getting shafted!
05-12-2005, 05:51 PM
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It's the last one today! Tomorrow it's just one of a bunch of 'old' body style Beemers. They came out with a new one cause that one is dated and will only become moreso as we all get accoustomed to the new one. No discount, let them sell it to someone else imho.
05-12-2005, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DaCeptak0n
Too overpriced! 42K for a 330i???? Who in their right mind.....
05-12-2005, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Thorin78
I like the TL, it has better interior styling and you save so much more money. I would spend the difference on upgrades for the TL
05-12-2005, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
I am a Beamer fan, but I don't think I would pay that much for a 3. an M3 perhaps.
05-12-2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Msnowdon
A 2005 TL or
I have found the last 330i ZHP with Navigation. It also has Black Leather, Heated Seats and Xennons
$41,450, they are firm on the price, as it is the last one in the Western US.
I have found the last 330i ZHP with Navigation. It also has Black Leather, Heated Seats and Xennons
$41,450, they are firm on the price, as it is the last one in the Western US.
Smart move looking at both camps (boards). I did the same when shopping 'mein neu' automobile. I was **this close** to buying a 3rd generation TL but after thoughfully thinking it out I choose my Silver Grey 330i ZHP.
The drive and handling on the E46 330i ZHP won me over. Great road feel, you really feel connected to the raod and not isolated. The steering is taut and very responsive. I actually smirk and smile each time I get into mein automobile. The ZHP's are (in my opinion) much cooler looking than your run-of-the-mill 330i's
. The rims are difficult cleaning though
.The dealer should have worked with you more. The price is high especially now that the E90's are out.
I bought my 330i ZHP with Xenon's and Navigation for $1000.00 over invoice and $6000.00 under msrp.
Well, enjoy your TL.
05-13-2005, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TL Tita
Uh, beamers are the BMW motocylces. Its bimmers. This is such a common flaw and misconception. I just thought i point it out
Originally Posted by TL-N
For you "beamer" fans, its actually "Bimmer." Beamer aka beemer was a slang made up when BMW raced their Motorcycles.
Just some useless FYI
Just some useless FYI
05-13-2005, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TL Tita
BAN? Read dude, i already informed the guy
j/k
Seriously though, people sometimes see an error and reply without finishing the thread. It happens...
05-13-2005, 07:38 AM
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BTW - You made the right choice. BMWs spontaniously combust.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97294
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97294
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Originally Posted by TL Tita
BAN? Read dude, i already informed the guy
Pay attention dude, the post was 7 minutes apart, apparently you didnt have to run to the can while you were making a post.
05-13-2005, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
all new carswith passenger airbag have that 
. I was going to reply with this too, but I might have sensed he was trying to be sarcastic
?!
05-13-2005, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Msnowdon
A 2005 TL or
I have found the last 330i ZHP with Navigation. It also has Black Leather, Heated Seats and Xennons
$41,450, they are firm on the price, as it is the last one in the Western US.
I have found the last 330i ZHP with Navigation. It also has Black Leather, Heated Seats and Xennons
$41,450, they are firm on the price, as it is the last one in the Western US.
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
It is a very beautiful color BMW, but it is no M3. Needless to say it's an AUTOMATIC. The car is much smaller than TL and much slower and much higher price. I would get the 6MT TL, you won't regret it as MT is more fun?
The TL is 6.1 from a Road and Track review.
Top speed in a TL is 147 mph.
In a 330i ZHP 155 mph.
Both electronically limited
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05-13-2005, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Eduardo
The 330i ZHP manual does from 0-60 mph in 5.9 seconds.
The TL is 6.1 from a Road and Track review.
Top speed in a TL is 147 mph.
In a 330i ZHP 155 mph.
Both electronically limited .
The TL is 6.1 from a Road and Track review.
Top speed in a TL is 147 mph.
In a 330i ZHP 155 mph.
Both electronically limited
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05-13-2005, 01:02 PM
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eduardo has a 330i, traids. themainevent's comment on TL (6MT) being faster than the 330i (AT) probably didn't sit too well with him.
short of m3/vert, i would stay away from 3 series... just personal preference, eduardo, i know it's a good car.
short of m3/vert, i would stay away from 3 series... just personal preference, eduardo, i know it's a good car.
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Originally Posted by o2cls
One of my friends is broke because his m coupe is so expensive to maintain(oil changes, parts, etc) Rule of thumb, honda parts are cheaper then bimmer parts. But if thats no issue, i think the tl looks more aggressive and more stylish. Its up to you in the end but I would go with the ac. Either way, you arent getting shafted!
I'm sorry, but I have an M3 and TL, and the E46 is light years beyond the TL in handling and performance. And no, I'm not comparing the M3 to the TL, just a plain 330Ci.
The TL is a better deal when you consider what you get, but from a performance standpoint, Bimmers rock.
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
I am a Beamer fan, but I don't think I would pay that much for a 3. an M3 perhaps.
A Beemer is a BMW motorcycle.
I'm annoying, I know.
05-13-2005, 05:00 PM
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Considering you can afford the ZHP, I'd buy it. I know it's smaller, older style, less reliable,etc etc, but it's more of a driver's car that the TL can't even come close.
Manual tranny TL and ZHP will run neck to neck on the straightaways, but when the road starts turning, the ZHP is a better car.
BTW, I bought a TL, mainly because the ZHP is too expensive for me.
Manual tranny TL and ZHP will run neck to neck on the straightaways, but when the road starts turning, the ZHP is a better car.
BTW, I bought a TL, mainly because the ZHP is too expensive for me.
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Originally Posted by Eduardo
The 330i ZHP manual does from 0-60 mph in 5.9 seconds.
The TL is 6.1 from a Road and Track review.
Top speed in a TL is 147 mph.
In a 330i ZHP 155 mph.
Both electronically limited .
The TL is 6.1 from a Road and Track review.
Top speed in a TL is 147 mph.
In a 330i ZHP 155 mph.
Both electronically limited
.
05-13-2005, 07:35 PM
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I'm not sure about this.... I've read BMW autos are among the most efficient in the world. Timing gap between manual and auto is usually pretty slim.
Originally Posted by caball88
is that bmw time for an auto or manual? bmw auto trannies suck pretty bad and rob alot of horsepower from the car.
05-13-2005, 08:23 PM
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you're gonna have to test drive them both. the price should be lowered since the new model 3 series are out, but its the last one. the red looks good. its all up to you!! do a really long test drive for both cars and make sure you psuh it when you test drive it.