CAI intake coming out soon....
01-09-2004, 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by ndabunka
BTW - What is C.A.R.B. LegaL? Does it have something to do with California? If so, will making it C.A.R.B. legal come at the cost of some HP? If so, would it be possible to get the non-C.A.R.B. version for those of use not constrained by the California emmission requirements?
BTW - What is C.A.R.B. LegaL? Does it have something to do with California? If so, will making it C.A.R.B. legal come at the cost of some HP? If so, would it be possible to get the non-C.A.R.B. version for those of use not constrained by the California emmission requirements?
I wouldn't worry about the CARB vs. Non-Carb version. I think they will make one version and hope/expect it will be Carb legal.
01-09-2004, 06:57 PM
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carb legal is just a sticker attached to the intake in case you get pulled over in california with the intake installed. It just states that its smog legal, thats all..
01-09-2004, 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by blaketag
I noticed Injen has the following disclaimer on their website about their CAI kits:
"Injen Technology Cold Air Intake Systems should be removed in any wet climates or on any wet roads or highways. Failure to comply with the above warnings may cause water to be absorbed into the engine through the filter causing serious damage to your motor."
Is this anything to be concerned about, or is it legalese and the filter protects the engine adequately? Would be a pain to have to remove the CAI assembly during the rain season here in the SF Bay Area. However, if there's any chance of trashing the engine on my brand-new TL I would steer clear of this performance add-on. Just curious...
Tom
I noticed Injen has the following disclaimer on their website about their CAI kits:
"Injen Technology Cold Air Intake Systems should be removed in any wet climates or on any wet roads or highways. Failure to comply with the above warnings may cause water to be absorbed into the engine through the filter causing serious damage to your motor."
Is this anything to be concerned about, or is it legalese and the filter protects the engine adequately? Would be a pain to have to remove the CAI assembly during the rain season here in the SF Bay Area. However, if there's any chance of trashing the engine on my brand-new TL I would steer clear of this performance add-on. Just curious...
Tom
01-09-2004, 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by jimthegreek
You dont ahve to worry about that. They make a air bypass valve that sucks all the water out incase any gets into the intake... its about 25.00 more i believe..
You dont ahve to worry about that. They make a air bypass valve that sucks all the water out incase any gets into the intake... its about 25.00 more i believe..
01-09-2004, 10:51 PM
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You only have to worry about water getting into the intake if the entire pipe is submerged. I dont think anyone on this site will see water that high and try to drive thru it. When I got the intake for my 01 CL-S I also got the bypas valve but never installed it. Drove the car in rain etc thru puddles (nothing too high) and had no problem. If you need piece of mind by all means get the bypass valve. In the event the entire filter get submerged the bypas valve opens allowing the engine to breathe air from the engine comprtment preventing the water from entering the intake tube.
01-10-2004, 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by acur8ly
You only have to worry about water getting into the intake if the entire pipe is submerged. I dont think anyone on this site will see water that high and try to drive thru it. When I got the intake for my 01 CL-S I also got the bypas valve but never installed it. Drove the car in rain etc thru puddles (nothing too high) and had no problem. If you need piece of mind by all means get the bypass valve. In the event the entire filter get submerged the bypas valve opens allowing the engine to breathe air from the engine comprtment preventing the water from entering the intake tube.
You only have to worry about water getting into the intake if the entire pipe is submerged. I dont think anyone on this site will see water that high and try to drive thru it. When I got the intake for my 01 CL-S I also got the bypas valve but never installed it. Drove the car in rain etc thru puddles (nothing too high) and had no problem. If you need piece of mind by all means get the bypass valve. In the event the entire filter get submerged the bypas valve opens allowing the engine to breathe air from the engine comprtment preventing the water from entering the intake tube.
01-10-2004, 10:02 AM
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Thanks for the clarifications, guys. I figured Injen was just covering themselves, and it was nothing to really worry about. No one would install these if you couldn't drive through a rainstorm! In any event, other than the extra cost, is there any disadvantage to installing the bypass valave?
Thanks,
Tom
Thanks,
Tom
01-10-2004, 10:32 AM
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Some valves have been know to fail (leak). Instead of getting cold air from the lower filter the valve's seal opens allowing hot engine compartment into the tube negating any gains from CAI. There is a way to get around this. During dry times instead of the valve use a silicone hose to cover the gap caused by the valve and when wet use the valve.
01-11-2004, 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by rets
Sorry, what's that?
Sorry, what's that?
http://www.comptechusa.com/instructions/ins110.pdf
01-11-2004, 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by Z Factor
Here is an example.
http://www.comptechusa.com/instructions/ins110.pdf
Here is an example.
http://www.comptechusa.com/instructions/ins110.pdf
01-11-2004, 08:03 PM
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it doesnt pull air from out front, so its not a true cold air... a true cold air pulls air from the front end of the vehicle.. ie.. tube piping and air filter behind the front bumper, not in the engire bay..
01-12-2004, 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by machete
I would rather not remove the front bumper cover. Would I be able to install it if I peeled back the inner fender liner to gain access?
I would rather not remove the front bumper cover. Would I be able to install it if I peeled back the inner fender liner to gain access?
01-12-2004, 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by jjstokes
Jimmy,
i'm interested in the group buy, but how does it work exactly?
and would i be able to get they bypass valve as well in the group buy?
-jjstokes
Jimmy,
i'm interested in the group buy, but how does it work exactly?
and would i be able to get they bypass valve as well in the group buy?
-jjstokes
the bypass valve would not be part of it, but i can get it for you.
01-12-2004, 08:09 PM
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jimthegreek.....u reply to this post and the groupbuy post but u still have not answer my questions about the hp and torque number...is it so minimal that you dont want to post it? it seems like you are shying away from giving out the real numbers...lemme us know man..if its minimal its fine but we still would like to know..thanks
01-13-2004, 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by blaketag
Thanks for the clarifications, guys. I figured Injen was just covering themselves, and it was nothing to really worry about. No one would install these if you couldn't drive through a rainstorm! In any event, other than the extra cost, is there any disadvantage to installing the bypass valave?
Thanks,
Tom
Thanks for the clarifications, guys. I figured Injen was just covering themselves, and it was nothing to really worry about. No one would install these if you couldn't drive through a rainstorm! In any event, other than the extra cost, is there any disadvantage to installing the bypass valave?
Thanks,
Tom
01-13-2004, 09:09 AM
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contact me @ socaltl@aol.com if your interested in the intake system.
01-26-2004, 01:52 PM
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Jim -
It appears as though "the group" is antsy to see the dyno sheet from Injen. Since you are without digital capabilities, maybe they'd post for you? I'm guessing they'll dyno your TL again when you return for the check-up.
Just a thought......
It appears as though "the group" is antsy to see the dyno sheet from Injen. Since you are without digital capabilities, maybe they'd post for you? I'm guessing they'll dyno your TL again when you return for the check-up.
Just a thought......
01-26-2004, 04:15 PM
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im in if it really works i need to see it for my own eyes i dont know about whp maybe at the crank!!!
no way you gained 15 to the wheels noway i need to raise the B.S. FLAG I think
no way you gained 15 to the wheels noway i need to raise the B.S. FLAG I think
01-27-2004, 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by nitrotiger
im in if it really works i need to see it for my own eyes i dont know about whp maybe at the crank!!! no way you gained 15 to the wheels noway i need to raise the B.S. FLAG I think
im in if it really works i need to see it for my own eyes i dont know about whp maybe at the crank!!!
no way you gained 15 to the wheels noway i need to raise the B.S. FLAG I think
Ive got 16 people signed up for the GB.
01-27-2004, 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by jimthegreek
I got 11.1 whp total. we dyno'd before and after...
Ive got 16 people signed up for the GB.
I got 11.1 whp total. we dyno'd before and after...
Ive got 16 people signed up for the GB.
At what RPM does the 11.1 increase in HP occur?
What is the average increase in HP?
Same questions for torque.
No reprogramming of any sort took place and runs were made on the same day, correct?
Cold air can work if there is a big difference in temps before and after, but the continued lack of a dyno sheet seems very suspicious.
-S.
01-27-2004, 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Scott GN231
In the absence of a dyno scan may I ask--
At what RPM does the 11.1 increase in HP occur?
What is the average increase in HP?
Same questions for torque.
No reprogramming of any sort took place and runs were made on the same day, correct?
Cold air can work if there is a big difference in temps before and after, but the continued lack of a dyno sheet seems very suspicious.
-S.
In the absence of a dyno scan may I ask--
At what RPM does the 11.1 increase in HP occur?
What is the average increase in HP?
Same questions for torque.
No reprogramming of any sort took place and runs were made on the same day, correct?
Cold air can work if there is a big difference in temps before and after, but the continued lack of a dyno sheet seems very suspicious.
-S.