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Old 06-11-2014, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffCity04TL
Not really. It has 153k miles and I just feel like it's getting old? If there was a time for me to get into a newer car it would be now because my trade in value and what i owe on the car are almost the same. I'm paying $270 a month for a car with 153k miles on it when i could be driving the same car with 60k miles on it for $300. Am i making any sense?
Going by mileage alone, your car isn't old. There are members here with 300k on their 3G TLs.

Your $270/mo is for how much longer? If it's a year or two, stick it out. The "only $300/mo" might sound tempting, but it'll be 5 years from the date of purchase, not from when you originally bought your current TL.

Personally, I would keep your car and save that $30/mo and put it towards keeping the car going or just save it.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
Going by mileage alone, your car isn't old. There are members here with 300k on their 3G TLs.

Your $270/mo is for how much longer? If it's a year or two, stick it out. The "only $300/mo" might sound tempting, but it'll be 5 years from the date of purchase, not from when you originally bought your current TL.

Personally, I would keep your car and save that $30/mo and put it towards keeping the car going or just save it.
Again thanks for the feedback. The $270 is going to be for another 20 months. The idea of paying this car off and it lasting another 100k miles sounds really good. Just didn't realize i could expect that many miles out of the car. Every now and then when I'm in between gears i hear the transmission "flutter" with a short but weird grinding sound which makes me feel uneasy sometimes but thats about it..
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Sounds like your transmission is on it's way out. Unfortunately, it's a problem that plagued the 2G CL/TL. Honda can make an engine last forever but can't make an automatic transmission to save their life

You might want to start pricing out a transmission rebuild/replacement instead of buying a new car that could potentially have the same problem. The 07/08 automatic transmissions have seemed to hold up better than the 04-06, but they aren't guaranteed to fail.
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
Sounds like your transmission is on it's way out. Unfortunately, it's a problem that plagued the 2G CL/TL. Honda can make an engine last forever but can't make an automatic transmission to save their life

You might want to start pricing out a transmission rebuild/replacement instead of buying a new car that could potentially have the same problem. The 07/08 automatic transmissions have seemed to hold up better than the 04-06, but they aren't guaranteed to fail.
Can you give me a ballpark range on a transmission rebuilt/replacement? I know it varies. But would i be talking a few hundred dollars or a few thousand dollars. Thanks again.
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Thanks for posting that, I had no idea DVD-Audio was only with Navigation.
Originally Posted by acurarsx04
The 08 doesn't have all the bells and whistles. no navi or rear camera and no dvd-a audio
Did they remove DVD-A in the later years?
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Sounds like transmission could cost 3-4k from what I just briefly read. If that's the case, I might as well buy a new car..... im so torn.
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Originally Posted by Jackass
Did they remove DVD-A in the later years?
no, misinformation.
all years, 04-08 base and type-s TL's have DVD-A.

it was one of their main selling points.
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I believe you would be making the right decision keeping your current car. Not only do you "know" the car you have now but you will be in a much better situation once the car is paid off. At that point, you can sell it for whatever its worth and use that as a hefty down payment on something alot nicer.

Its easy to be blinded by something newer and shiny, but being someone who has made that mistake in the past, its just not worth it. My TL-S has about 100k on it right now and I am looking forward to see how far this thing will go. Enjoy it!!
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Originally Posted by Redsand353
I believe you would be making the right decision keeping your current car. Not only do you "know" the car you have now but you will be in a much better situation once the car is paid off. At that point, you can sell it for whatever its worth and use that as a hefty down payment on something alot nicer.

Its easy to be blinded by something newer and shiny, but being someone who has made that mistake in the past, its just not worth it. My TL-S has about 100k on it right now and I am looking forward to see how far this thing will go. Enjoy it!!
If it's worth 4-5k right now but has what seems to be a transmission going downhill, by the time my car is paid off it will be worth prob 2k needing a transition worth 3k..... banging my head against wall... screw it I'm going to pay this thing off and ride it till it dies and hope tranny hangs in there. This forum is very helpful.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffCity04TL
If it's worth 4-5k right now but has what seems to be a transmission going downhill, by the time my car is paid off it will be worth prob 2k needing a transition worth 3k..... banging my head against wall... screw it I'm going to pay this thing off and ride it till it dies and hope tranny hangs in there. This forum is very helpful.

If you think the tranny is going, did you consider a fluid (3 x 3 drain and fill) and 3rd/4th tranny switch swap? It may (but not definitely will) help your tranny for now and at least buy some time. I guess the decision to get a replacement car should be determined by the present car's value (at sale or trade), the cost of major repairs needed, and the likelihood of getting at least another 50K miles out of what you have (so that the cost of the tranny if it ultimately needs replacement can be factored over the next 50K miles at least). This way it's worth getting done vs. getting the work done and then selling almost immediately after (because you won't get that money back in sale/trade). I see cars like that for sale that have a new engine or transmission and then are put up for sale, so it asks the question of did the repairs help or the car still doesn't run right vs. the prior owner just got tired of the car despite the financial loss secondary to the repairs just done.

I would say if your car is in otherwise decent condition (good body, good engine, and all the electronics work and it's not significantly deteriorated), do what I indicated above (huge thread on Azine about the fluid and switches) and if not, and you need another tranny, get it done (maybe use a trans shop as the dealer will typically be more $$$) and then plan to drive it for the next 50-100K miles.

Just one opinion of course.
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If you think the tranny is going, did you consider a fluid (3 x 3 drain and fill) and 3rd/4th tranny switch swap? It may (but not definitely will) help your tranny for now and at least buy some time. I guess the decision to get a replacement car should be determined by the present car's value (at sale or trade), the cost of major repairs needed, and the likelihood of getting at least another 50K miles out of what you have (so that the cost of the tranny if it ultimately needs replacement can be factored over the next 50K miles at least). This way it's worth getting done vs. getting the work done and then selling almost immediately after (because you won't get that money back in sale/trade). I see cars like that for sale that have a new engine or transmission and then are put up for sale, so it asks the question of did the repairs help or the car still doesn't run right vs. the prior owner just got tired of the car despite the financial loss secondary to the repairs just done.

I would say if your car is in otherwise decent condition (good body, good engine, and all the electronics work and it's not significantly deteriorated), do what I indicated above (huge thread on Azine about the fluid and switches) and if not, and you need another tranny, get it done (maybe use a trans shop as the dealer will typically be more $$$) and then plan to drive it for the next 50-100K miles.

Just one opinion of course.
I will look into whatever you were talking about in the first sentence of your post. Right now it sounds like Chinese to me. Thanks for the direction though.

-Zack
Old 06-11-2014, 12:01 PM
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Here you go:

Switches:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/110-diy-guide-replacing-3rd-4th-gear-pressure-switch-3g-tl-2004-2006-a-729149/

Fluid:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/rr-journals-atf-drain-refill-3g-garage-c-012-a-556044/
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