Dr. Honda

Consider it a blessing, as you've been spared.

Bingo

RIP LEFTY #3.

The exhaust is worth it.

Listen, you'll be joining me, along with others, as the only thing you'll be concerned with is preserving your ability to hear the MAGICAL 304 SS pipes sing.

Acura TL Builder

Let’s see action and a price tag.

zeta

iTrader: (1)

Don't fret Dr. Honda you can still attract the swinging foxes!
With today's medical technology surgeons can insert prosthetics which will give you the 'bull nut sack of a slav' that would rival Yortuk & Georg Festrunk.

Acura TL Builder

If you get a penile implant, there’s a brand that routes the pump up ball in your sack. That way it’ll feel like you have two again!

wusty23jd

Aaaaaanyways.... I'm glad to see someone was able to make the trip! When the time comes, I'd be happy to head East as well. Michiganders have to stick together.

sockr1

iTrader: (5)

soooooo talking has been fun but what's the next step here?

truonghthe

awaiting on your engineering input on the design.

sockr1

iTrader: (5)

doesnt' matter what engineering does, the inspector will be the "gate keeper"

truonghthe

back to the drawing board it is.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

There's one big glaring aspect that all of you are overlooking!!

To be able to sell commercially on acurazine, one needs to become a vendor.

This is probably the main reason why you can hear crickets in this thread.

Acura TL Builder

You can become a “mini-vendor” for quite cheap.

Acura TL Builder

No, you hear crickets because the people hyping it up don’t have the wherewithal to pull off big projects.

Like I said earlier, they would rather relax at days end instead of produce a product and make money.

This whole thread is a circular jerk. Nothing will happen.

Dr. Honda

Do it.


1) Good things are worth waiting for
2) You get what you pay for

I'm sure Euro will update when he has something he thinks is worth sharing. If he's not going to go through with it, he'll say so.

Big words you'll likely be eating later on.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

I mean if one really wanted to one can take the plans/blue print from this page and head to an exhaust shop and have a conversation with them about one's goals.
perhaps, the exhaust builders can replicate the design without going over budget

Acura TL Builder

I hope I will, but I usually don’t.

Acura TL Builder

Doesn’t the increased flow of air change depending on the HP level of an engine? So if he’s building an exhaust that sounds cherry on a 300hp engine, it may sound mediocre on a 600hp engine. Is this the way it works, or does the cherry sound just sound more fine?

zeta

iTrader: (1)

Perhaps; however, it's important to not overlook the 'secret sauce', from what I can see mentioned in Exhaust System Design 102, and that is the highlighted portion on Euro-R_Spec_TSX's lesson below:

He divulges the resonator is a typical design, basic SS304 tube diameters & muffler dimensions; however, I'm willing to bet my 'left nut' that he spent a lot of 'trial & error' time in finding THE muffler(s), he is utilizing, employing the Helmholtz resonator that gives the 'attenuation' heard on the videos, thus justifying the label 'proprietary'.

Finally, would an experienced exhaust shop 'crew' be able to replicate that sound combing through exhaust catalogs indicating mufflers, of that dimension, that advertises 'Helmholtz resonator' design inside? (if said catalogs even exist? )

Maybe.

However, getting it right the 'first time' would be a probability challenge that you would end up paying handsomely for via trail & error. Something most won't do.
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Acura TL Builder

Yes Zeta, Exactly!!

So the question becomes, Does the "legendary forum user" Euro R have what it takes to follow through with this?

Why would this be difficult?

Remove your 'custom' cat-back from your J37 TSX, give it to a passionate Exhaust shop/builder and request X amount to be built to TL specifications.

Dr. Honda

I honestly can say, in your best interest, don't attempt it. You won't get close to the same result and you will waste a ton of time and money.

The exhaust is his own custom design he spent YEARS on. It's not just a bunch of catalog exhaust components he welded together. It truly is a custom built, proprietary design. You literately are unable buy the parts from a catalog and have some shop weld it together.

It's not a matter of - if he has what it takes. It's a matter of - whether he WANTS to invest in making an exhaust for this community. If people are going to rush him or expect a premium product for next to nothing, then probably not. Whenever someone intelligent makes an investment, they need to feel it's going to be worthwhile.

Much more complicated.

If I were to take a GUESS (I don't know exactly how he'll handle it), it would go something along the lines of:

The TSX exhaust would be somewhat redesigned/engineered for a TL. Then a prototype would have to be made and tested to confirm it is up to his standards. Then manufacturing and other logistics.

This is a product about QUALITY, NOT quantity. This community is used to products that are quickly thrown together and shipped with no real development work behind them. This applies to basically everything aftermarket for these cars, especially exhaust systems.

There's probably some nuances to that which Euro could probably give some insight on BUT the bigger question would be, how do you go from 300HP to 600HP? If you remove the "pre-cats" and install a turbocharger on the car, obviously that's going to have a major impact on how the car sounds. But if you could make an extra 300HP in another manner (I.E. nitrous), it would probably still sound roughly the same. (Yes I know an extra 300HP from nitrous isn't exactly realistic but we're talking conceptually).

Acura TL Builder

The ATLP sounds quite good. Ive used it for a few years now and really enjoy its balance.

I look forward to the progress of this exhaust design, but it sounds like it will be quite some time before we will have one in our hands. Until then, ATLP is the best thing for great balanced sound.

I will be buying Marcus of HeelToeAutomotives' new 3" ATLP for the Turbo build. Looking forward to an eventual comparison between this exhaust and that one.

zeta

iTrader: (1)

Yes, Herr Dr.-Ing.
Precisely my understanding from lessons Exhaust System Design 101 & 102.

nist7

Alright, for those who are interested, let's get some responses on what you guys prefer in the following:

What inlet size from the j-pipe?

Preference for tips (Type-S or Base) ?

Marsalis Simms

I'd assume so with most of the setups i've encountered on YT. Seems very easy to make it sound raspy/rice.

Acura TL Builder

I here guys with 4 bangers love that sound.

Marsalis Simms

Yep, and I hear it daily. Hence why I'm trying to figure out the best setup. Area I'm in does not have a great enthusiast community lol

Dr. Honda

Everyone with a Type-S will want quads. And there are a good amount of people who will also convert to quads or who have already converted to quads.

I'm guessing there will be little to no demand for duals.

Very easy.

wusty23jd

Under the presumption that the selected quad tips would be too large for base A-Spec lips, then I would be one of the individuals in need of duals. Or maybe a smaller set of quads could be chosen as an alternative that would fit the smaller openings?

In the meantime, my search continues for a rear Type-S A-spec lip...

Dr. Honda

See! Everyone wants quads, lol. Good luck on your search.

Acura TL Builder

Any update on the best sounding exhaust Brock? Or even another WOT video?

Euro-R_Spec_TSX

I'm working on it, but there are a number of interruptions coming up that will slow things down.
I'll try to make another video after I upgrade my compliance bushings to Hardrace spherical bearings.