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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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black crap when washing your car

what's going on?

this may sound like a basic question, but i just want to make i'm using the right stuff to remove it.

whenever i wash my car, there's some black crap on it. i assume its tar. when you rub it, it just spreads out until it finally goes away. pain in the ass to remove. can i just use a bug and tar remover? do you guys recommend something else?

thanks!
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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Where is it coming from?

Originally Posted by cable
what's going on?

this may sound like a basic question, but i just want to make i'm using the right stuff to remove it.

whenever i wash my car, there's some black crap on it. i assume its tar. when you rub it, it just spreads out until it finally goes away. pain in the ass to remove. can i just use a bug and tar remover? do you guys recommend something else?

thanks!
If it coming out b/t the body panels it stuff called cosmoline. It is used on the undersrface of the body panels for corrosion prevention. Just washes away.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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If it coming out b/t the body panels it stuff called cosmoline. It is used on the undersrface of the body panels for corrosion prevention. Just washes away.
thanks for the info. its not coming out of the body panels. they are like black dots in the middle of my door or on my hood.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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That is something obviously

you are getting from the environment. :clown:
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Old May 7, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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I got some over my rims... looks like tar??
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Old May 7, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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try not to rub out spots on your car. the more you run the more chances are that you will scratch the car. the black stuff is most likely tar or some other road dirt. use a good bug and tar remover to either remove or at least loosen it up. most bug stains come out with the spray but tar usually hangs on a bit longer. when you are rinsing the bug and tar remover use a microfiber or 100% terry cloth towel to wipe away the tar. if it still doesn't come off use clay to remove the tar. make sure you lubricate the surface with some detailing solution that should have come with the clay. i have numerous spots like this on my car because its SSM and easy to see. i remove just about every spot this way and i do not even have swirl marks from this method.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Being I have the WDP,I know what you`re talking about. It`s tar spots, and it`s kicked up from everyone`s tires. Including your own. That`s why the spots are on the hood and trunk, (other people`s) and on the sides(your`s) tires.

There`s 2 way`s to REMOVE it. And 1 way to PREVENT it.

Using a claybar is the ideal. Won`t take the wax or polish off. Or a cleaner with petrolem distilates.

Some "waxes" have PD in them, but unless you rub these spots, they only get "waxed" over.

The only other way of preventing it is, don`t drive the car.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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try this...

I have used something called tarminator in the past..works great. .just make sure the cloth you use is moist otherwise you will scratch the car.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cable
what's going on?

this may sound like a basic question, but i just want to make i'm using the right stuff to remove it.

whenever i wash my car, there's some black crap on it. i assume its tar. when you rub it, it just spreads out until it finally goes away. pain in the ass to remove. can i just use a bug and tar remover? do you guys recommend something else?

thanks!
If its tar or asphalt,,, prior to washing, spray a rag/papertowel with WD40 and it will wipe right off - very easily. Will not remotely hurt the paint/clearcoat and then easily washes off.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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the WD40 might not hurt the clear coat but that layer of wax you put on will be stripped. at least that is what i hear from other people. i know that the wd40 works to remove tar but its not recommended.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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WD-40 .....wash....... then re-apply wax .....works the best.
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Old May 8, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by caball88
the WD40 might not hurt the clear coat but that layer of wax you put on will be stripped. at least that is what i hear from other people. i know that the wd40 works to remove tar but its not recommended.
Any cleaner that will take tar/asphalt off easily - whether your rubbing or not, will have some effect on a wax job. WD40 is as harmless as they come, and cheaper w/multiple uses...

For a few tar spots now and then you can't beat it. I know several detail shops that have been using it for over 20 years.

Give it a try
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Old May 8, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Better off just clayin than playin with WD :lol2:
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Old May 8, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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When I had my Infiniti G35, the guys on that forum suggested 3M Adhesive remover as being safe to use. The also recommended NOT using WD40 as it has some zonkers in it which will eventually kill your finish - even after washing, waxing, etc.

I used the 3M stuff and it's worked well. Anyone had any problems with it?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cable
thanks for the info. its not coming out of the body panels. they are like black dots in the middle of my door or on my hood.
I get those too, but only after I have the tires armor all'd. I'm sure you've already considered that.
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Old May 8, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jefffree
When I had my Infiniti G35, the guys on that forum suggested 3M Adhesive remover as being safe to use. The also recommended NOT using WD40 as it has some zonkers in it which will eventually kill your finish - even after washing, waxing, etc.

I used the 3M stuff and it's worked well. Anyone had any problems with it?
Have you really used 3M adhesive remover?? Do you know what properties it has?? Sure it will take tar etc off, it's just one or two steps below lacquer thinner - ie the stuff that dissolves PAINT.....

Their are many products out their both for "tar removal" and many for just about everything else... You just need to think about what your trying to remove and what your removing it with. Telling someone to use "adhesive remover" over something like WD40 is like using a blow torch vs a match.... Definitely be careful with that product.

Guys, if your really concerned about it go buy some no kidding "tar etc. remover" made for automotive finishes.. Read the label, all they are is toned down petroleum distilled products. For me, I will stick to something already in my storage cabinet. Besides, I know for a fact that rain water
"will eventually kill your finish - even after washing, waxing, etc."
much quicker than something like WD40.

Christ, one would think I'm a WD40 distributer :toothless

Bottom line, no matter what you decide to use, if it will disolve tar/asphalt "stuff", its not something you need nor want to use in large quantities and leave sitting on your paint finish for any period of time. Whatever it is, use it in moderation, clean well afterwords, and finish the job with a wax/Zaino of your choice..
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Old May 9, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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I was washing today and I noticed some grease in my front wheel well. Went to wipe it off and it’s all over the place. Under the car is loaded. It looks like very heavy axe grease. It’s a mess totally destroying a very good towel too. Reluctantly I think I need to send it to the pro’s to get under the carriage.
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Old May 9, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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For grease and tar, you could use something called "Spray9" One of my clients manufactures it and it is safe for finishes as well as very good at removing grease, etc. Give it a shot
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Old May 9, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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that would be my guess also armour all ,or what ever kind of tire dressing your using,what I try to do to prevent this is not getting tires to wet ,I preffer the dull black
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Old May 10, 2004 | 12:49 AM
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I bought a bottle of Turtle Wax Bug and Tar remover but have not tried it yet. Since no one has recommended it (or any of the other products like it) I am wondering whether or not I should try it. It says on the bottle that it won't strip the wax.

Anyone tried it?
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Old May 10, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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i'll give wd40 a shot since the tar spots are pretty small and i'll only need to use a tiny bit. as long as it can completely remove it. before, when i was rubbing w/o a remover, it'll leave a slight brown streak. very faint, but i know its there! haha

plus, i always have some wd40 laying around. maybe i'll pick up some bug and tar remover for the bigger spots.

thanks for the info everyone!
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Old May 10, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TLJohn
I bought a bottle of Turtle Wax Bug and Tar remover but have not tried it yet. Since no one has recommended it (or any of the other products like it) I am wondering whether or not I should try it. It says on the bottle that it won't strip the wax.

Anyone tried it?
I used to use Turtle Wax B&T remover for years. No idea why I quit; probably recommendation for other stuff on other forums and haven't run out of it yet!
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