is it better to buy a used TL certified from the Acura Dealer
#2
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I always thought it's a better idea to buy it Certified Pre-Owned from the Acura dealer so I did and pretty happy with the purchase overall. However we also have had some horrible stories from people that bought one. So examine the car very carefully no matter what you buy!
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Hmm... most would say yes... but then again as with most cars, it all depends on who the owner was... good for us, not too many "non car people" would trash a TL because its not a cheap car... Certified cars are kinda expensive, its like your paying more for nothing except for the fact that they checked to make sure that everything is ok...lol most of the time if your going to spend money for the certified price, you might as well buy a new car...lol At least in my opinion... Shop around first, compare prices, then make your choice...
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Yes, with one exception. The only used car dealership that I would buy a non-certified TL from is CarMax, which is what I did over 3 years ago (best car I've ever owned). I've bought several cars from them over the years, and so has other members of my family. We've all had positive experiences. Supposedly, CarMax is more selective about the cars they keep and resell. The only downside is that you can't haggle, or get them to come down on the price if you pay for it outright with cash. The used car I owned prior to the TL was a lemon, and I made the mistake of buying it from a large local dealership that sold both new and used cars. I always plan on buying used (makes more financial sense), and from CarMax if possible.
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Yes, as long as the price is competitive. The car will come with the added 12/12K warranty to the factory warranty, then the 7/100k powertrain warranty, and the Car Care warranty varies @ $1000 or so if wanted. Most are lease or trade-in's, but a car from the auction, or another dealer is always a possibility.
Any used car is a gamble, but most newer low mileage cars with a clean Car Fax should be good to go, but don't let the looks of the body deter your investigation of the car's main ingredients, e.g. drivetrain, suspension, brakes, tire wear, etc.
CarMax is no different than any other dealer as you'll find many, many negative reviews when investigating, but when selling 350,000 vehicles per year, they can't have a perfect sale every time.
Just be smart.
Any used car is a gamble, but most newer low mileage cars with a clean Car Fax should be good to go, but don't let the looks of the body deter your investigation of the car's main ingredients, e.g. drivetrain, suspension, brakes, tire wear, etc.
CarMax is no different than any other dealer as you'll find many, many negative reviews when investigating, but when selling 350,000 vehicles per year, they can't have a perfect sale every time.
Just be smart.
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always have a shop look the car over for you
carfax only knows what it has been told~
depending on the cars mileage- the CPO is essentially a 1000 dollar extended warranty contract--the trans and some electronic parts that might fail are more than that cost
carfax only knows what it has been told~
depending on the cars mileage- the CPO is essentially a 1000 dollar extended warranty contract--the trans and some electronic parts that might fail are more than that cost
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Also, with a CPO, you can purchase what's called a "CPO wrap", which means that the 7 year 100K powertrain warranty is transferred into a 7 year 100K $0 deductible warranty at a minimal cost (dealer cost on that is around $600 iirc).
The tires must all be OEM, and be at a minimum tread depth, and all services must be brought up to date as well. Dealers will usually only certify cars that are well cared for and regularly maintained, therefore the expense of reconditioning is less.
The tires must all be OEM, and be at a minimum tread depth, and all services must be brought up to date as well. Dealers will usually only certify cars that are well cared for and regularly maintained, therefore the expense of reconditioning is less.
#10
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CPO cars SHOULD give you assurance that your car will work perfectly. if you are very handy and dont mind spending time to fix a car or just plain rich to pay for all repairs then you can just get a non CPO car, even so not all of them are as bad as you think. TL's are very reliable
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It is debatable. If you can get a good deal on a private one that is in great shape go with that. If the car is hard to come by and you can still get a deal on a CPO, the financing is usually better and then the warranty is great as well. Preferrable, but not to getting the best car at the lowest price. In other words, don't buy a car BECAUSE it has a warranty.
#12
It boils down to , How honest is the dealership? There is a reason there are so many bad stereotyped car salesmen. They get paid when they sell a car ... "owned by a little ole lady who only drove it on weekends to church." if u know an good mechanic get a second opinion ...... could save u a fortune in the future !!!!
#13
I would have to let you know what I think in about a year or two. I bought my 04 TL a week ago at an Infiniti Dealer. Based on the way the car looks both inside and out and the carfax report, it appears to be a 1 owner car, which made me much confident about purchasing it. Everything is as it should be and the car is bone stock. We'll see how it holds up.
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Also, with a CPO, you can purchase what's called a "CPO wrap", which means that the 7 year 100K powertrain warranty is transferred into a 7 year 100K $0 deductible warranty at a minimal cost (dealer cost on that is around $600 iirc).
The tires must all be OEM, and be at a minimum tread depth, and all services must be brought up to date as well. Dealers will usually only certify cars that are well cared for and regularly maintained, therefore the expense of reconditioning is less.
The tires must all be OEM, and be at a minimum tread depth, and all services must be brought up to date as well. Dealers will usually only certify cars that are well cared for and regularly maintained, therefore the expense of reconditioning is less.
Not to be nitpicking, but would just like everyone to know that to be a CPO the vehicle does not need to have the OEM tires installed, just all 4 tires the same make/model with the OE size, speed rating and load rating as the minimum e.g. 235/45-17 93W minimum.
11-Tires (minimum tread depth 5/32 across tread width)
64-Tires (OEM size, speed and load rating/ matching brand and type)
#15
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Personal opinion here, but I find the Certified-Pre-Owned warranty to definitely be worth it, assuming the car isn't more than $2000 over what comparable non-CPO cars cost.
For me, the CPO warranty made me feel more comfortable with a used car, and that I can take it to any Acura dealer and the warranty will be honored since it's a factory warranty.
However, I think I could overcome my objections if the savings were $2000+ to go the non-certified route and I could take the car to a mechanic for an inspection. I almost bought a Volvo that way.
For me, the CPO warranty made me feel more comfortable with a used car, and that I can take it to any Acura dealer and the warranty will be honored since it's a factory warranty.
However, I think I could overcome my objections if the savings were $2000+ to go the non-certified route and I could take the car to a mechanic for an inspection. I almost bought a Volvo that way.
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Personal opinion here, but I find the Certified-Pre-Owned warranty to definitely be worth it, assuming the car isn't more than $2000 over what comparable non-CPO cars cost.
For me, the CPO warranty made me feel more comfortable with a used car, and that I can take it to any Acura dealer and the warranty will be honored since it's a factory warranty.
However, I think I could overcome my objections if the savings were $2000+ to go the non-certified route and I could take the car to a mechanic for an inspection. I almost bought a Volvo that way.
For me, the CPO warranty made me feel more comfortable with a used car, and that I can take it to any Acura dealer and the warranty will be honored since it's a factory warranty.
However, I think I could overcome my objections if the savings were $2000+ to go the non-certified route and I could take the car to a mechanic for an inspection. I almost bought a Volvo that way.
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just bought an 07 type-s a few weeks ago used from a dealership. only way to make it seem like CPO was to purchase the VSC that came with it, 100k mile 6 year warranty which covers everything an extended warranty would. car has 35k on it now, 50k limited warranty, 70k powertrain, and 100k extended warranty. payments shot up an extra $20 a month but i feel like its worth it. hoo knows...i may never need to replace anything in the next 6 years, but just in case i have to, at least i'll have a decent warranty to cover the costs. plus i can take it to any acura dealership, despite what the car salesman told me. it's better to have the warranty and not need it than to need the warranty and not have it.
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Tim:
Not to be nitpicking, but would just like everyone to know that to be a CPO the vehicle does not need to have the OEM tires installed, just all 4 tires the same make/model with the OE size, speed rating and load rating as the minimum e.g. 235/45-17 93W minimum.
11-Tires (minimum tread depth 5/32 across tread width)
64-Tires (OEM size, speed and load rating/ matching brand and type)
Not to be nitpicking, but would just like everyone to know that to be a CPO the vehicle does not need to have the OEM tires installed, just all 4 tires the same make/model with the OE size, speed rating and load rating as the minimum e.g. 235/45-17 93W minimum.
11-Tires (minimum tread depth 5/32 across tread width)
64-Tires (OEM size, speed and load rating/ matching brand and type)
#20
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I say if you can find a dealer that has a CPO anything and it's what you want, bring your A-game to bargin and buy it. Most of all CPO cars are going to be more expensive because they pass the cost off to you. When I got my car, within the first week I had to have my 3rd gear sync replaced. A $5000 job done at the cost of Acura. Had I have bought my car private, I'd have to cough up that cost. I don't know how they missed that issue when they certified it, but no worries for me. Just two weeks of car time given up.
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I bought my 06 TL last year from an Acura Dealer. Mine was a "certified" car. I usually dont do extended or certified warranties, but the dealer dangled a low interest rate in front of me if i bought the Honda/Acura certified warranty. Cost me an extra $1,000.00 but worth it cause I made up the money on the interest rate.
Havnt had any issues with the car. But i have a work vehicle i use so i only drive the TL part time. The one time i took it back in to the dealer for an oil change and to get a part changed out I was impressed. Took a lil too much time just to do that IMHO. but cant complain....
So I would say "yes" get one /w a certified warranty only if the deal is worth it. otherwise, you can find extended private warranties out there. your insurance company prob has them at a discount.
Havnt had any issues with the car. But i have a work vehicle i use so i only drive the TL part time. The one time i took it back in to the dealer for an oil change and to get a part changed out I was impressed. Took a lil too much time just to do that IMHO. but cant complain....
So I would say "yes" get one /w a certified warranty only if the deal is worth it. otherwise, you can find extended private warranties out there. your insurance company prob has them at a discount.
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I'm in the same boat. I went and test drove a certified 07 type S with 34k miles listed at $25,999. The dealer would only come down $500 off of that. There is another dealership 45 miles away that has exactly the same car , certified as well, only a different color listed for $1,000 less. i tried to use this as some leverage when negotiating but the first guy wouldn't have any of it. He was trying to tell me that he doesn't know the condition of the cheaper car and what not even though they are both certified.
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I'm in the same boat. I went and test drove a certified 07 type S with 34k miles listed at $25,999. The dealer would only come down $500 off of that. There is another dealership 45 miles away that has exactly the same car , certified as well, only a different color listed for $1,000 less. i tried to use this as some leverage when negotiating but the first guy wouldn't have any of it. He was trying to tell me that he doesn't know the condition of the cheaper car and what not even though they are both certified.
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I got a CPO 06 TL with nav a couple of months ago. The sales experience was terrible, but I totally enjoy having a year warranty on it compared to 0 on a car from a used car dealer. I've also bought from CarSense, local no haggle dealer with 6 months warranties. I feel its worth the extra money to have the peace of mind that if something goes wrong in the next 6-12 months, you're covered.
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