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Old 03-22-2008, 10:27 PM
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Best Brake Pads for Low Dust with 6MT Brembos

So some of this information is sprinkled in several threads and maybe if I searched for a week, I could find it. Maybe this can get to the 3G Garage if enough people answer.

Please answer the following, if you don't know or remember, leave blank or guess, but specify if you are not confident in your answer.

1. What brand of replacement Brembo front Pads did you get?
2. What model number Pads were they?
3. What website, store, etc did you get them from?
4. What price did you pay?
5. How good is the braking power compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie. 90%, 120% etc..)
6. How much less dust did these pads produce compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie 15% as much dust as stock Brembos.)


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My buddy has the red stuffs. Hes on his second set. I just ordered some as well.
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Originally Posted by trancemission
My buddy has the red stuffs. Hes on his second set. I just ordered some as well.
trancemission,

What about questions 2 - 6 ?
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i have rotax kevlars , changed them myself. I think i paid around 120$.. do a search, thats how i answered questions 2,3 . They throw off a little bit of dust, maybe 10% of what the stock brembos throw off.. i don't know how much better they are than the brembos. I have never tested my brembos to their limits.. but i can tell you that when i performed the bedding-in process for the new brakes, they stopped pretty well.. I have had about 3 close calls in the last year, and they saved my life. I have about 15K on them now.
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Originally Posted by DMZ
trancemission,

What about questions 2 - 6 ?
you can answer those
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Originally Posted by trancemission
you can answer those
How? I have the stock OEM pads, dealer installed.
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Originally Posted by DMZ
How? I have the stock OEM pads, dealer installed.

then why in the hell did you even post in this thread?
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Originally Posted by trancemission
then why in the hell did you even post in this thread?
You're the one who posted a reply about alternative pads without answering all of zootjeff's questions. I just want to know all about all the alternatives available for the next time I do front brakes .... including the Red Stuff, Green Stuff, etc.
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Originally Posted by trancemission
then why in the hell did you even post in this thread?

I think he could ask you the same question.

I would really like to see some good answers to this topic, as this is a very serious concern for many TL-S owners, or 6MT owners.
I'll ask the same question...what is "red stuff"? Is it a particular name brand?
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search red stuff, why should I do all the work for you?

thats how I found out about them. quit being so damn lazy....


here. they're made by EBC. go to their site and read up on them

you may like them, you may not. I just paid 125 for the front sets.

We have a vendor on this site, his name is excellerate. he sells all kinds of stuff.

My buddy, like I posted, is on his second set if that tells you anything.
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OK..I did that. I put "red stuff" into keyword, and it found no "red stuff" except what was offered on this thread.

It reverted back to "stuff'. Nothing else found.

Is there anything else you would like to offer for us lazy people?


OK, thanks for the edit. I'll look it up.
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Dust is the only issue I have with the OEM Brembo pads. Otherwise, they're fine. And the only reason I've had brakes done at the dealer is because they use the lathe that resurfaces the rotors on the car.

I would like to hear experiences from others who've used the Stuff pads though.
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Originally Posted by S PAW 1
OK, thanks for the edit. I'll look it up.
when you search put an (*) in front of the key words, that helps.

goto EBC's site. google it, or just google ceramic pads.

thats what i did, i read about all of them and then I just decided on my own.

I just dont think having questions listed for the members to answer is very fair. I say this because if it were just one person asking it would be okay. But this isnt in the first one asking and wont be the last. This is exactly why we have a garage...

I think some work or research should be done first. I dont like it when someone says, well I could search but it could take a week. Not true, you can learn from what the members tell you but it should only be a small part in what factors your decision....
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Dust is the only issue I have with the OEM Brembo pads. Otherwise, they're fine. And the only reason I've had brakes done at the dealer is because they use the lathe that resurfaces the rotors on the car.

I would like to hear experiences from others who've used the Stuff pads though.
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There arent very many members that have. I know of a few who use EBC, my buddy is on his second set, he loves them.

That coupled with some SS brake lines really made it much better. http://www.ebcbrakes.com/automotive.html
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[QUOTE=trancemission]when you search put an (*) in front of the key words, that helps.

I apologize for getting off topic a little here, but that is good information to have. As you know, many questions are asked week after week, usually by new people that didn't search.
So, I guess my question is...why does putting the (*) in front of the key word help?
Maybe for whatever reason, it shouldn't??? Maybe that's hurting the search feature, and creating so many worthless threads.
I dunno, just my off topic
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I really dont know to be honest. Ive just known that putting an (*) has always been what you do. Not only here.

The threads that are created arent worthless, they're just a bit premature in my opinion.

My intent is not to be an ass, I just want members to look around a bit, thats all. Thats why my answer was so short.


EDIT: I apologize zoot, this convo shouldve been in PM.
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Here you are, this worked for me (answers in bold):

1. What brand of replacement Brembo front Pads did you get? Rotora
2. What model number Pads were they? 04-08 TL
3. What website, store, etc did you get them from? Excelerate (our vendor)
4. What price did you pay? forgot
5. How good is the braking power compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie. 90%, 120% etc..) I like the OEM brembos better for stopping power than any pads, but it is not a big difference.
6. How much less dust did these pads produce compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie 15% as much dust as stock Brembos.) I have NO DUST!! Well, not after the initial break-in period. I have had them on since September. I have NO DUST. A slight squeal when I brake on an occassion here and there, but nothing persistent or consistent.

Old 03-23-2008, 03:16 PM
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some of you guys make life so much more difficult for others...even if they are being lazy...

1. What brand of replacement Brembo front Pads did you get?
1st set, Project Mu NS Street Pads
2nd set, Endless CCA Carbon Ceramic
3rd set (not on the car yet), Endless CCA again

2. What model number Pads were they?
Endless CCA

3. What website, store, etc did you get them from?
PM me because azine is gay and it blocks out stuff

4. What price did you pay?
can't tell you cuz i get hooked up.

5. How good is the braking power compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie. 90%, 120% etc..)
better...sorry, i don't go out and do performance testing, not my job, i just know it works well.

6. How much less dust did these pads produce compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie 15% as much dust as stock Brembos.)
less dust, but still dusty, if you want performance, you're gonna end up with dust...
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some of you? if you mean me shoot me a PM and we can discuss


funny how half your answers were worthless...and if you refer to AZ as gay again you go away. we have already banned two

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1. What brand of replacement Brembo front Pads did you get?
Brembo/Honda replacement pads

2. What model number Pads were they?
45022-SEP-A60

3. What website, store, etc did you get them from?
Ebay/Acura Of Troy

4. What price did you pay?
$149 including shipping

5. How good is the braking power compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie. 90%, 120% etc..)
Same

6. How much less dust did these pads produce compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie 15% as much dust as stock Brembos.)
Same

NOTE I have found a wheel cleaner that works. Spray onto a cold wheel, let it foam up for 30 seconds & wipe it off with a wet rag. I almost never have to do more then one application.

Permatex One Touch Wheel Cleaner AWC20-6C AWC20-6C
StengelBros $ 30.64 for 6 - 20oz cans including shipping.
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
1. What brand of replacement Brembo front Pads did you get?
Brembo/Honda replacement pads

2. What model number Pads were they?
45022-SEP-A60

3. What website, store, etc did you get them from?
Ebay/Acura Of Troy

4. What price did you pay?
$149 including shipping

5. How good is the braking power compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie. 90%, 120% etc..)
Same

6. How much less dust did these pads produce compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie 15% as much dust as stock Brembos.)
Same

NOTE I have found a wheel cleaner that works. Spray onto a cold wheel, let it foam up for 30 seconds & wipe it off with a wet rag. I almost never have to do more then one application.

Permatex One Touch Wheel Cleaner AWC20-6C AWC20-6C
StengelBros $ 30.64 for 6 - 20oz cans including shipping.
Hey, those Brembos suck for dust if you put custom swheels on your ride. Avoid them like the plague!
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Whoooh... gettin hot in here.

Jeff, I dunno bout which pads you're looking for, but it's a known fact that dust is a by product of bite... Less dust = less stopping power. Everything I've read says cermamic based pads are the lowest dust, at the compromise of milder stopping power. Track pads can take the heat, dust like shit, and bite like mutha. Ceramic pads don't bite as hard but don't dust as much.

That being said, I need new brakes. I ordered the Racingbrake 2 piece slotted rotors for the front and single piece slotted rotors for the rear. I chose Hawk Performance Ceramics for daily use. I commute... a lot. I figure this'll be a nice balance of performance and wear. If I ever got to track, I'll have strong rotors to take it, and will throw a hotter set on the front.

The ceramics are supposedly of equivalent to stock stopping power, with a longer life, and less dust on my hot ass Volk rims.
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
I ordered the Racingbrake 2 piece slotted rotors for the front
I will be going with these rotors next time around. Love the hub!
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You can find my preference here (complete with install instructions too)

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...awk+Brake+Pads

1. What brand of replacement Brembo front Pads did you get?
Hawk HPS Street
2. What model number Pads were they?
HB530F.570
3. What website, store, etc did you get them from?
http://www.tirerack.com
4. What price did you pay?
around $100
5. How good is the braking power compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie. 90%, 120% etc..)
These things have superb bite! I prefer them 100% over the stock pads
6. How much less dust did these pads produce compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie 15% as much dust as stock Brembos.)
I can't give a % here because with these brakes there will always be dusting.. I guess maybe 50% less?
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Originally Posted by darksom1
Hey, those Brembos suck for dust if you put custom swheels on your ride. Avoid them like the plague!

But they stop real gooood. Depends if you want to look pretty or be functional.

Long ago there was a saying.."if it don't go chrome it" & its still a good description of form over function. Pads that will stop well at street temperatures dust, that's the way it is. Have the same dust problem with my BMW 330 that does not have Brembo brakes as OE but also stops very well.

The Brembos cost a bit more then the low dust aftermarket but not that much more when spread out over a few years use.

You want very good pad for the street go with Brembo like Corvette, Maserati, Ferrari, Aston Martin & Lamborghini do.

If you want very good pads for the track get true racing pads. Thing is, true racing pads suck on the street because they do not get hot enough to function properly.
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1. What brand of replacement Brembo front Pads did you get? - EBC Red Stuff
2. What model number Pads were they? - I dunno, told the guy on the phone what i needed and he shipped it.
3. What website, store, etc did you get them from? - authotized EBC distributer per their site http://www.placeforbrakes.com/
4. What price did you pay? - $115
5. How good is the braking power compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie. 90%, 120% etc..) - Dunno, they are sitting in my trunk awaiting install
6. How much less dust did these pads produce compared to stock Brembo pads, (ie 15% as much dust as stock Brembos.) - Dunno but i was told less than stock. Check out EBC's site, they rate their pads and one of the things they rate is dust
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Whoooh... gettin hot in here.

Jeff, I dunno bout which pads you're looking for, but it's a known fact that dust is a by product of bite... Less dust = less stopping power. Everything I've read says cermamic based pads are the lowest dust, at the compromise of milder stopping power. Track pads can take the heat, dust like shit, and bite like mutha. Ceramic pads don't bite as hard but don't dust as much.

That being said, I need new brakes. I ordered the Racingbrake 2 piece slotted rotors for the front and single piece slotted rotors for the rear. I chose Hawk Performance Ceramics for daily use. I commute... a lot. I figure this'll be a nice balance of performance and wear. If I ever got to track, I'll have strong rotors to take it, and will throw a hotter set on the front.

The ceramics are supposedly of equivalent to stock stopping power, with a longer life, and less dust on my hot ass Volk rims.
I could be thinking of something else, but I believe that with the ceramics they work better when they get hot.... Or maybe its that they work better than most when they are hot?
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Here you go guys...Best Price so far!

http://www.rotorsandpads.com/HB211Z-...B211Z-606.aspx
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^ Are our vendors cheaper than $80.12? Plus, don't these squeal?
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I haven't seen ATLP's price, he hasn't posted in a while...
As for squeals I don't know yet, my brembos were pretty loud for a while.
No obviosly they're shot so... We'll see, I just ordered these.
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I haven't seen ATLP's price, he hasn't posted in a while...
As for squeals I don't know yet, my brembos were pretty loud for a while.
No obviosly they're shot so... We'll see, I just ordered these.
I meant Marcus or Josh, but go for it!
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Oh Ha, I don't really know who those guys are....
Thanks, will keep you guys posted!
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I swear figuring out the "right" pads for this car (w/Brembo's) is harder than figuring out the "right" oil filter.

They're both contentious issues with a lot of personal opinion and preference, but at least with the filter's there is *some* objective fact to go with the opinions.

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Originally Posted by trancemission
some of you? if you mean me shoot me a PM and we can discuss


funny how half your answers were worthless...and if you refer to AZ as gay again you go away. we have already banned two

so consider this a warning
wow, that constitutes a warning.......some of you moderators take this way too serious......

As far as this thread, hey buddy just stick with the OEM.....lol!
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Originally Posted by V-Sic
wow, that constitutes a warning.......some of you moderators take this way too serious......

As far as this thread, hey buddy just stick with the OEM.....lol!

Im not taking anything to serious. Its how we run this forum.
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As others have said...Im sticking to the OEM Brembo pads...I like my stopping power! and dust? I just clean my two front wheels daily! psheu!
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[QUOTE=BEAR-AvHistory]But they stop real gooood. Depends if you want to look pretty or be functional.

Therein lies the dilema. I don't see the TL-S setting any records in braking distance when compared to other cars in the same weight and class. Certainly not enough to compensate for the excessive dusting.
Let's look at the Feb. 2008 Road & Track summary:
Braking from 60-0:
'07 TL-S, 117'
'07 BMW 335i, 119'
'07 CADILLAC CTS,118'
'07 INFINITY G35 SPORT, 116'

And I don't see any of these dust like the TL-S Brembos
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But they stop real gooood. Depends if you want to look pretty or be functional.

Therein lies the dilema. I don't see the TL-S setting any records in braking distance when compared to other cars in the same weight and class. Certainly not enough to compensate for the excessive dusting.
Let's look at the Feb. 2008 Road & Track summary:
Braking from 60-0:
'07 TL-S, 117'
'07 BMW 335i, 119'
'07 CADILLAC CTS,118'
'07 INFINITY G35 SPORT, 116'

And I don't see any of these dust like the TL-S Brembos
The only one I can compare with in real life is my BMW 330CI convertible wheels since I have to clean them. The pictures should speak for themselves but its much worse on a per mile driven basis then the TL.







BTW Permatex "One Touch" wheel cleaner is great, about $5 for a 20oz spray can. From what you see in the BMW picture to shinny brite is abut 3 minutes per wheel with no hard effort.
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Im doing an Austin hill country drive this weekend. Ill let you guys know how these Red Stuffs work out..
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Originally Posted by trancemission
Im doing an Austin hill country drive this weekend. Ill let you guys know how these Red Stuffs work out..

GOOD!

Now that we know what they are


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