Base vs Type S
#121
US Navy Seabees
I bought mine because of the whole package. The differences in the body, the exhaust, more power, the interior, the wheels, the exclusivity of having one versus all of the regular TL's out there. To me it was worth it. I didn't plan and I still don't on modding it at all. If there's 6MT Base TL's out there that can beat me I honestly couldn't care less, I didn't buy this car to try to be the fastest around.
#122
I bought mine because of the whole package. The differences in the body, the exhaust, more power, the interior, the wheels, the exclusivity of having one versus all of the regular TL's out there. To me it was worth it. I didn't plan and I still don't on modding it at all. If there's 6MT Base TL's out there that can beat me I honestly couldn't care less, I didn't buy this car to try to be the fastest around.
I could not agree more.
#123
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A car that can beat 90% of other vehicles on the road is fast buddy. Especially when it can pull almost a 13.9 in the 1/4 stock. So fast it is. It can keep up with older styled M3's. And well... the M3 is considered fast, why not let the TL-S get some credit. It aint the fastest thing around by all means, but I can keep up with these so called... really really fast cars.
You stick with your "fast" TL and I'll get my fast fix elsewhere.
#124
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I was going to write a post in which I quoted a bunch of people and offered my opinion, but on the 10th quote I changed my mind...
It's easier to say I pretty much agree with every post that IHC wrote... I feel like we're on the same page.
Also, my comparisons in price and car have pretty much been with an 04/05/06 and a Type-S... not the 07/08 base and Type-S. If I had to choose between an 07/08 and Type-S it would be a tougher decision because the price difference is so minimal. But there are too many low mileage and well maintained 04/05/06's on the road for a great price for me to consider a Type-S.
It's easier to say I pretty much agree with every post that IHC wrote... I feel like we're on the same page.
Also, my comparisons in price and car have pretty much been with an 04/05/06 and a Type-S... not the 07/08 base and Type-S. If I had to choose between an 07/08 and Type-S it would be a tougher decision because the price difference is so minimal. But there are too many low mileage and well maintained 04/05/06's on the road for a great price for me to consider a Type-S.
#125
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#126
Three Wheelin'
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Let's break it down in regards to this "$7k" difference shall we?
**Type S - 3.5 vs 3.2**
Are you going to do a motor swap? How much would parts and labor set you back? Several grand?
**Type S - standard in dash Navi GPS**
Non type S Navi GPS option is about $500-750 more. You can buy a gps at the store for $200 but that's not in-dash and the screens are much smaller.
**Type S - sport tuned suspension**
Aspec suspension and coilovers are available at $1k or so.
**Type S rims vs non type s rims**
This is just matter of choice. Some people hate them some people like them. let's say you wanted to change the rims on your non type S but that would set you back at least 2k for okay wheels and tires. 3-4k for jdm stuff.
**Type S - quad exhaust**
ATLP is available and that's at least $1k
**Type S - more HP**
What mods are you going to do to match or exceed the HP of the type S? And how much would this cost?
**Type S bumpers, headlights, taillights logo + stitching, steering wheel, and whatever else I forgot...**
What about all of these? Don't want it? Don't need it? That's ok too.
With all of these things I could tell you in my opinion that the difference in $7k or so is definitely worth it to get the Type S.
**Type S - 3.5 vs 3.2**
Are you going to do a motor swap? How much would parts and labor set you back? Several grand?
**Type S - standard in dash Navi GPS**
Non type S Navi GPS option is about $500-750 more. You can buy a gps at the store for $200 but that's not in-dash and the screens are much smaller.
**Type S - sport tuned suspension**
Aspec suspension and coilovers are available at $1k or so.
**Type S rims vs non type s rims**
This is just matter of choice. Some people hate them some people like them. let's say you wanted to change the rims on your non type S but that would set you back at least 2k for okay wheels and tires. 3-4k for jdm stuff.
**Type S - quad exhaust**
ATLP is available and that's at least $1k
**Type S - more HP**
What mods are you going to do to match or exceed the HP of the type S? And how much would this cost?
**Type S bumpers, headlights, taillights logo + stitching, steering wheel, and whatever else I forgot...**
What about all of these? Don't want it? Don't need it? That's ok too.
With all of these things I could tell you in my opinion that the difference in $7k or so is definitely worth it to get the Type S.
I totally agree with you. i own a base model and haven't gotten a chance to drive the type-s yet. but if i can afford and find a good type-s, i will definitely go for the type s too
#128
Suzuka Master
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I did some searching and found an 04 TL supercharged with RJ body kit for $16k and 71k miles, also found an 08 type s only with intake for $22k and 52k miles. Which sounds like a better deal?.
Did find a completely stock 04 TL for $14500 with 61k miles but its taking the back seat for now.
Did find a completely stock 04 TL for $14500 with 61k miles but its taking the back seat for now.
#130
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
Your right about the last owner maybe beating on the car though
#131
Banned
Supercharged car. being abusive could be said about the type-s car as well. we dont know. Just take the care to be looked at no matter what you buy but for me there is a lot more power per your money spent on the s/c'g car. S/c's are very reliable units. I cant see what could be abused otherwise that would not non a agressively driven stock TL.
#132
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Performance - Type S wins hands down
Looks - base and base A-spec win every time, although I generally don't like spoilers and tucked-on body kits
To me the S' design looks a little busy, garish even. Like it's trying too hard to impress and be different from the base. I'm just not feeling some exterior and interior details Acura chose for the car. As a result, the base seems to be aging better due it's cleaner looks.
Looks - base and base A-spec win every time, although I generally don't like spoilers and tucked-on body kits
To me the S' design looks a little busy, garish even. Like it's trying too hard to impress and be different from the base. I'm just not feeling some exterior and interior details Acura chose for the car. As a result, the base seems to be aging better due it's cleaner looks.
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#133
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lol you make it sound like your opinion is some sort of official answer on the cars exterior appearance. I like all TL's myself, but if I see a Type S driving by I always gawk and stare. When I base goes by I will take a quick look but nothing more...especially because a base goes by every 15 seconds. I personally love the looks of the S.
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This is like comparing a GS-R integra to a type R. There are just some things that can't be swapped to have a type R.
You either have an S or you don't.
I wanted a 6 mt and a newer model and also an S.
I found my TL-S with 6mt and 25k miles for $25k and couldn't be happier. And still have partial warranty not that it mattered to me.
I bought exactly what I wanted except for a WDP with black interior but those are even harder to find low mileage. But I average 5k miles a year on personal vehicles. Love a company truck.
Buy what U can afford but don't count out the S in your search. You might come across one and you WILL be happier if you go that route.
Good luck to you and your decision either way.
You either have an S or you don't.
I wanted a 6 mt and a newer model and also an S.
I found my TL-S with 6mt and 25k miles for $25k and couldn't be happier. And still have partial warranty not that it mattered to me.
I bought exactly what I wanted except for a WDP with black interior but those are even harder to find low mileage. But I average 5k miles a year on personal vehicles. Love a company truck.
Buy what U can afford but don't count out the S in your search. You might come across one and you WILL be happier if you go that route.
Good luck to you and your decision either way.
#136
RAR
lol you make it sound like your opinion is some sort of official answer on the cars exterior appearance. I like all TL's myself, but if I see a Type S driving by I always gawk and stare. When I base goes by I will take a quick look but nothing more...especially because a base goes by every 15 seconds. I personally love the looks of the S.
James
James
#138
Team Owner
lol you make it sound like your opinion is some sort of official answer on the cars exterior appearance. I like all TL's myself, but if I see a Type S driving by I always gawk and stare. When I base goes by I will take a quick look but nothing more...especially because a base goes by every 15 seconds. I personally love the looks of the S.
James
James
TL-S is usually driven by people in our age group or older and every one I've seen so far has been male. Seems like lots of old people and overweight women (no offense) in the base TLs lately. The demographic has no doubt changed over the years. I bought mine new and most of the original owner TLs were mid 30s or older but many of the ones I came into contact with were at least enthusiasts. Now that's not the case.
I guess I could have saved all of this writing and said that the Type-S is more likely owned by an enthusiast, probably with a little more money to spend, and will probably be treated better too.
Honestly stock to stock I don't know which one looks better. I don't care for the front of the a-spec base models and I think the rear of the Type-S looks very nice. It's the rims that get me but IMO they're not bad enough to replace if I owned one. Ugly, no, but not the best choice. If only they had done something similar to the the base 5/10 spoked rims but more aggressive looking. I like the less busy looks of the base, the '04-'06 in particular but I'll admit they will probably look outdated first.
I'm still more than satisfied with my base but I'm certainly glad it's slightly lowered with wider tires and the big brakes to at least somewhat offset it from the Walmart rim and the fat lady crowd.
#139
I myself maybe upgrading to a Type S soon... I got a letter from the Acura Dealership I bought my 06 TL from. The letter said I was qualify for an upgrade to an 08 without any down payments and keeping the payments the same or less. I am looking at the 07 TL Type S from the same dealership with alot less miles on that car vs mine. Type S has 44000 miles and mine has like 76250. If everything is right then it will be worth the buy or else I will walk cause I like my 06 just fine.
#140
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I myself maybe upgrading to a Type S soon... I got a letter from the Acura Dealership I bought my 06 TL from. The letter said I was qualify for an upgrade to an 08 without any down payments and keeping the payments the same or less. I am looking at the 07 TL Type S from the same dealership with alot less miles on that car vs mine. Type S has 44000 miles and mine has like 76250. If everything is right then it will be worth the buy or else I will walk cause I like my 06 just fine.
#142
Oh I know.. That's why I said if the deal is right meaning that if I have 3 years left on my car and I get this car and have to pay 4 years on it then yeah I will buy but anything more then that forget it...
#143
Well guys, I got a call today from the dealership and they told me my payment will be $145.00 more for 60 months! I was like no way not happening and that being said they try to offer a 72 months deal which would've been like $45 more then what I am paying now. Don't think so
#144
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I also stare when I see a Type S. There are about 20 base TLs at least to every one Type S. I see more stock looking Type-S TLs also which is a good thing IMO. I'm starting to see way too many base TL's with uglier than factory cheap wheels and nasty drops with the ass dragging and front in the air.
TL-S is usually driven by people in our age group or older and every one I've seen so far has been male. Seems like lots of old people and overweight women (no offense) in the base TLs lately. The demographic has no doubt changed over the years. I bought mine new and most of the original owner TLs were mid 30s or older but many of the ones I came into contact with were at least enthusiasts. Now that's not the case.
I guess I could have saved all of this writing and said that the Type-S is more likely owned by an enthusiast, probably with a little more money to spend, and will probably be treated better too.
Honestly stock to stock I don't know which one looks better. I don't care for the front of the a-spec base models and I think the rear of the Type-S looks very nice. It's the rims that get me but IMO they're not bad enough to replace if I owned one. Ugly, no, but not the best choice. If only they had done something similar to the the base 5/10 spoked rims but more aggressive looking. I like the less busy looks of the base, the '04-'06 in particular but I'll admit they will probably look outdated first.
I'm still more than satisfied with my base but I'm certainly glad it's slightly lowered with wider tires and the big brakes to at least somewhat offset it from the Walmart rim and the fat lady crowd.
TL-S is usually driven by people in our age group or older and every one I've seen so far has been male. Seems like lots of old people and overweight women (no offense) in the base TLs lately. The demographic has no doubt changed over the years. I bought mine new and most of the original owner TLs were mid 30s or older but many of the ones I came into contact with were at least enthusiasts. Now that's not the case.
I guess I could have saved all of this writing and said that the Type-S is more likely owned by an enthusiast, probably with a little more money to spend, and will probably be treated better too.
Honestly stock to stock I don't know which one looks better. I don't care for the front of the a-spec base models and I think the rear of the Type-S looks very nice. It's the rims that get me but IMO they're not bad enough to replace if I owned one. Ugly, no, but not the best choice. If only they had done something similar to the the base 5/10 spoked rims but more aggressive looking. I like the less busy looks of the base, the '04-'06 in particular but I'll admit they will probably look outdated first.
I'm still more than satisfied with my base but I'm certainly glad it's slightly lowered with wider tires and the big brakes to at least somewhat offset it from the Walmart rim and the fat lady crowd.
I myself maybe upgrading to a Type S soon... I got a letter from the Acura Dealership I bought my 06 TL from. The letter said I was qualify for an upgrade to an 08 without any down payments and keeping the payments the same or less. I am looking at the 07 TL Type S from the same dealership with alot less miles on that car vs mine. Type S has 44000 miles and mine has like 76250. If everything is right then it will be worth the buy or else I will walk cause I like my 06 just fine.
It's almost as amusing as the places that cater to people with poor credit, when they have their annual "super sale" (with free hot dogs and soda while you shop), during which no offer is refused, all applications are accepted (not necessarily approved) and all trades are paid off no matter what you owe!!! And all approved deals come with a "free" 20 inch lcd television!! All the stupid people with tanked credit run right down there and get bent over, ending up with a seven year note on $25,000, at 24.9% for a four year old Grand Prix, but it's all good, because now they don't have to buy a new tv.
#145
Its funny seeing this post now. I have an 05' TL and didn't want to spend the extra money for the Type-S, but everyone time I see one, I say. Uh - Uh- Uh, thats Hot.
So, now, I'm modying my 05' TL to look like a Type-S. Funny!
So, now, I'm modying my 05' TL to look like a Type-S. Funny!
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#148
Intermediate
type-s goes down as a regular tl so its cheap(er) on the insurance and as my signiture suggests TYPE-S all the way. my friend has a base and he more modded than me but even so he cant beat me on a highway pull
#149
Instructor
I also considered the resale value a few years down the road. Exclusivity always adds to value. When I bought my first car I could've bought a Mustang GT, but I decided to go with a Mach 1 for a couple grand more and it was always worth 3-4k more than a GT. Same concept with a type-s.
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