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nfnsquared 05-22-2016 01:21 PM

Aftermarket vs OEM headlight assembly
 
Some goon backed into my driver's side headlight and broke it. Of course, he took off while I was in the store. It also cracked the bumper, so I'm getting both the bumper and headlight assembly (33151SEPA02) replaced. Since the passenger side headlight assembly is original and has some cracking/hazing, I'm debating about replacing it at the same time.

How are the aftermarket headlight assemblies? Is there anything to worry about with them? I did a search and couldn't find any discussion on aftermarket headlight assemblies...

godfather18 05-22-2016 01:54 PM

Please stay away from aftermarket headlights fitment is ok but they build up condensation real easily and quality isn't as good especially the projector!! OEM FTW always!!!!

nfnsquared 05-22-2016 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by godfather18 (Post 15758589)
Please stay away from aftermarket headlights fitment is ok but they build up condensation real easily and quality isn't as good especially the projector!! OEM FTW always!!!!

Details? How do you know this?

thoiboi 05-22-2016 03:11 PM

There's an OEM drivers side on BM

GOOSEej 05-22-2016 03:48 PM

just throwing this out there.

Before my tl I would research which after market company would make the best fitting part.

Once my part came in and still had my broken part ie headlight i would open up with both after market light and oem light and swap out the parts and just use the shell of the aftermarket part..

Dont know if i explained myself clearly but you can do that??

GL

ggesq 05-22-2016 05:35 PM

https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...vs-oem-911912/

Undying Dreams 05-23-2016 11:50 AM

Hey nfn, I have an OEM headlight for sale if you'd like to take a look. Sorry to hear about the damages!

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-par...4-06-a-944954/

MillerTime12oz 05-23-2016 04:57 PM

I am in the same situation. My front bumper was cracked and driver headlight broke after someone backed into me. I just ordered a new aftermarket painted bumper and depo headlights from Amazon. I decided to replace both headlights. I will let you know how it fits and looks...

nfnsquared 05-23-2016 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Undying Dreams (Post 15759250)
Hey nfn, I have an OEM headlight for sale if you'd like to take a look. Sorry to hear about the damages!

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-par...4-06-a-944954/

PM coming.


Originally Posted by MillerTime12oz (Post 15759668)
I am in the same situation. My front bumper was cracked and driver headlight broke after someone backed into me. I just ordered a new aftermarket painted bumper and depo headlights from Amazon. I decided to replace both headlights. I will let you know how it fits and looks...

I'm more concerned about the reflectors than anything else. I'll really be interested to know if they seem the same as OEM (light projection and cut off). When do you think that you'll have them installed?

P.S. I also have brand new Osram Nightbreakers to be installed.

MillerTime12oz 05-23-2016 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by nfnsquared (Post 15759769)
PM coming.



I'm more concerned about the reflectors than anything else. I'll really be interested to know if they seem the same as OEM (light projection and cut off). When do you think that you'll have them installed?

P.S. I also have brand new Osram Nightbreakers to be installed.

I will be installing them this coming weekend as long as everything arrives. I will PM you after I do the install. I still have the original HID's from 2005. I thought about replacing them while the headlight assembly was out. They have not started to turn purple yet so I am hoping they still have some life. Once you get the Nightbreakers installed PM me what you think. I like the OEM bright white with a hint of blue.

nfnsquared 05-23-2016 10:53 PM

Will do on the nightbreaker review :thumbsup: I don't care for the blue light and really want max visibility because of the deer up here.

The opinions/reviews on AM/Depo headlights are all over the place. Some say the projectors suck, some say they are identical to OEM. Some say they leak, others say they were fine. I really haven't seen any negative comments about fit.

Looks like I'm going through insurance because it will be cheaper for me ($500deductible) than doing it myself. If insurance/body shop will do it, I'm going to ask them to purchase the OEM passenger side assembly for the claim and I'll buy Undying Dreams' driver's side assembly (still checking out the seller for reputation). It's the same money, just don't know if they'll allow it.

llllBULLSEYE 05-24-2016 06:56 AM

I can tell from experience . On my previous TL I wanted Type S lights so I opted
for the Depo type S headlights since they were $450 for the pair. Well first the driver side started getting condensation after 2 months and blew my ballast. Shortly after the passenger side started getting condensation and blew my ballast, igniter and bulb.
I removed both headlights and sealed them with silicone. was fine for 3 months then
driver side again had condensation So again removed headlight and this time I silicone the $hit out of it. If you choose to buy aftermarket just make sure you seal them before you install or just get oem and don't worry about it.

nfnsquared 05-24-2016 11:12 AM

Yeah, I think I'm going to avoid anything other than brand new OEM for the headlight assembly. The best price (shipped) that I found on new OEM was from Acura Parts for less ($463.64 with the Azine discount). I found the OEM bumper for $295 shipped from Buerkle Acura (Minneapolis). I'm just dickering with the bodyshop and insurance right now to get the OEM.

FYI, the body shop quoted $481 for the A/M headlight assembly and $282 for the A/M bumper (yeah, huge markup on parts).

thoiboi 05-24-2016 11:14 AM

If anything, the housing is fine Aftermarket, I'd only be concerned about the projector internals itself.. I wouldn't get anything aftermarket for that sole reason.


Good luck NFN!

maharajamd 05-24-2016 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by nfnsquared (Post 15759914)
If insurance/body shop will do it, I'm going to ask them to purchase the OEM passenger side assembly for the claim and I'll buy Undying Dreams' driver's side assembly (still checking out the seller for reputation).

First off... Undying Dreams isn't someone you need to worry about. Buy his shit with confidence.

Second... OEM or bust man! Just buy a used on ebay if you have to. Or contact one of the light modding vendors. I'm sure you can source a used headlight somewhere around here.

cu2wagon 05-24-2016 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by nfnsquared (Post 15759914)
Will do on the nightbreaker review :thumbsup: I don't care for the blue light and really want max visibility because of the deer up here.

I ran the Osram Nightbreakers in my old truck and in my bikes. I find it to be pretty phenomenal light for an incandescent bulb. About as white and as bright as you can go without upgrading more of the lighting system.

thoiboi 05-24-2016 11:25 AM

I assumed he was talking about the Xenarc Nightbreaker HID's not incandescent
:scratch:


XENARC NIGHT BREAKER UNLIMITED: product details | OSRAM

maharajamd 05-24-2016 11:28 AM

It's the 'new' SVS right?

cu2wagon 05-24-2016 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by thoiboi (Post 15760258)
I assumed he was talking about the Xenarc Nightbreaker HID's not incandescent
:scratch:


XENARC NIGHT BREAKER UNLIMITED: product details | OSRAM

:dunno:

Okay. So for any chumps that come across this thread in the future. I like the old school tech and the new school tech is probably good too.

Although now that I think about it, I think I have the incandescent Nighbreakers in my high beams on the car currently. :scratch:

maharajamd 05-24-2016 11:31 AM

an almostbreaker?

nfnsquared 05-24-2016 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by thoiboi (Post 15760250)
If anything, the housing is fine Aftermarket, I'd only be concerned about the projector internals itself.. I wouldn't get anything aftermarket for that sole reason.


Good luck NFN!

I wish I knew what to think. This guy had very bad luck with leaking depo units, yet he claims the reflector is identical to OEM:



Originally Posted by maharajamd (Post 15760255)
First off... Undying Dreams isn't someone you need to worry about. Buy his shit with confidence.

Second... OEM or bust man! Just buy a used on ebay if you have to. Or contact one of the light modding vendors. I'm sure you can source a used headlight somewhere around here.

My concern isn't with Undying Dreams, it's with the original seller and the history of the refurbished OEM unit. I have no idea if it ever leaked or if any previous leaks were properly sealed, and I have no recourse if it does leak after buying.

And yeah:

OSRAM Xenarc Night Breaker Unlimited D2S Xenon HID Bulb | PowerBulbs

Picked them up for $112.96 shipped. Their 20% off sale is still going on.

thoiboi 05-24-2016 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by cu2wagon (Post 15760262)
:dunno:

Okay. So for any chumps that come across this thread in the future. I like the old school tech and the new school tech is probably good too.

Although now that I think about it, I think I have the incandescent Nighbreakers in my high beams on the car currently. :scratch:

high beams would be incandescent

but your lowbeams are D2S HID bulbs :)



jeez old man :rolleyes:

thoiboi 05-24-2016 02:03 PM

I'm reading his review but don't see anywhere that the projector internals are the same :dunno:

nfnsquared 05-24-2016 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by thoiboi (Post 15760394)
I'm reading his review but don't see anywhere that the projector internals are the same :dunno:

It's in his reply to a question:

"How is the light output of this unit in comparison to the OEM unit? Is the cutoff crisp/clean or scattered? Any info you can give on this product is great! Thanks."

Reply: "... As the housing is identical to the OEM (Stanley), so is the beam pattern..."

And actually, I misquoted his problem. It wasn't with leaking units, it was with an improperly vented unit. Sounds like one was good and the other had heavy condensation due to faulty ventilation.

Update: Insurance is covering for OEM parts, so it's a done deal!

I'll still be interested to hear MillerTime's review on his Depo units.

Now my next question, how do I tell OEM from AM/Depo? Will OEM have the part number or "Acura" on it somewhere? I'm going to inspect the parts before they go on the car. (Yeah, I trust no one :biggrin: )

thoiboi 05-24-2016 02:25 PM

i read housing as the external housing and not the projector.. also i didn't read the questions whoops :tomato:


it should say stanley in front (on the lens) i believe.

maharajamd 05-24-2016 03:17 PM

Yep Stanley on the lense...

nfnsquared 06-01-2016 06:45 PM

So I got my car back from the body shop. Only took them 2 days. Paint match looks great! When I dropped the car off, I asked to see the headlight assembly. They took me back to the shop and showed me the part. It was in a Honda box and I was in a hurry, so I didn't pull it out and look for the Stanley markings. Now that it's been installed, there are absolutely no markings on the lens cover. I'm curious about this. My OEM passenger side has a DOT marking, "Honda" and Stanley markings all on the lens cover, but my new, supposedly OEM driver's side has nothing. Did things change over 13 years?

Tonight is the first time to drive at dark. I'll be able to see if there's a difference in the reflector/light out put. Also will be the first viewing of my new Nightbreakers. Will post more info after the night drive.

MillerTime, any reviews on your Depo units?

thoiboi 06-01-2016 06:47 PM

Damn hope they didn't screw you... That'd be shady as hell.

cu2wagon 06-01-2016 07:04 PM

Inform your insurance company that it does not appear to be an OEM unit used in the repair to original condition. Especially if the repair order quoted OEM and not LKQ. They should have it taken care of, especially if they paid out for the higher cost OEM part.

thoiboi 06-01-2016 07:12 PM

Keep us posted. I'm interested to know if they did change for some reason. IIRC, the back of the housing has HONDA stamped on it as well, see if you can maybe see it through the top of the engine ? :shrug:

nfnsquared 06-01-2016 07:13 PM

I honestly don't think they screwed me. The bumper is definitely OEM. I has the "ACURA" imprint.

Honda must have changed how they mark their headlight units. Like I said, I saw the headlight unit in a Honda box. I also know what dealership they ordered it from. I asked them about the difference (markings vs no markings) before I left and they had no clue, not that I would expect them to know.

My main concern is any condensation/fogging issues, not reflector performance. These guys warranty everything for as long as I own the car, so I'll be taking it back if there is any condensation.


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