Acura/Hondas splitting in half in accidents?
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Acura/Hondas splitting in half in accidents?
There was much discussion here about the TL that was split in half after it was hit by a speeding Mercedes. The couple in the TL died while the Benz driver survived. For those who did not hear about this see the following:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...ouple_in_.html
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/holy-%2A%2A%2A%2A-i-hope-isnt-someone-here-644484/
And now in NJ there was 10 year old girl who died after the Honda Accord she was riding in split in half, after it too was hit by a Benz. The Benz driver had just stolen the car, and he survived the accident.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008...stolen_me.html
Coincidence? Bad luck? Time to get a Mercedes?
I didn't think that Benzes were that much more crashworthy but this is twice now that I've seen practically the same result.
Jason
'05 TL 6MT
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...ouple_in_.html
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/holy-%2A%2A%2A%2A-i-hope-isnt-someone-here-644484/
And now in NJ there was 10 year old girl who died after the Honda Accord she was riding in split in half, after it too was hit by a Benz. The Benz driver had just stolen the car, and he survived the accident.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008...stolen_me.html
Coincidence? Bad luck? Time to get a Mercedes?
I didn't think that Benzes were that much more crashworthy but this is twice now that I've seen practically the same result.
Jason
'05 TL 6MT
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It's all a matter of how the cars crash into one another. These weren't head-on collisions. If you get T-boned by a Benz, you're going to be in a world of hurt. Benz are HEAVY cars, large mass = lots of momentum.
All this tells me is don't get T-boned by a Benz. And that if I was ever to steal a car, I should steal MBz in case I T-bone someone.
All this tells me is don't get T-boned by a Benz. And that if I was ever to steal a car, I should steal MBz in case I T-bone someone.
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Holy shit! That damn car is ripped in half! I've never seen a car ripped in half from getting T-boned.
Man, my condolences to the family of the victims, i hope that car jacker rots away in prison.
Man, my condolences to the family of the victims, i hope that car jacker rots away in prison.
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http://www.automotive.com/2008/12/ac...sts/index.html
Acura does pretty well on crash test ratings. 5 stars all around except for the front occupant side impact that gets a 4 star rating. I don't know how accurate those results are, but I definitely feel safe in my Acura. Benz's, especially older ones, are generally big and heavy and have a lot of mass. If you get T-boned by a car like that going way too fast .. I don't think the results are going to be pretty no matter what you're driving.
Acura does pretty well on crash test ratings. 5 stars all around except for the front occupant side impact that gets a 4 star rating. I don't know how accurate those results are, but I definitely feel safe in my Acura. Benz's, especially older ones, are generally big and heavy and have a lot of mass. If you get T-boned by a car like that going way too fast .. I don't think the results are going to be pretty no matter what you're driving.
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Back in 2000 I had a 99' Prelude all moded up. Hit a telephone poll one night going about 50mph exactly where the front seem is at the firewall on the front passenger side. The ENTIRE front clip ripped from the car and spun out into the road while I was with the cab (firewall back) still perfectly intact. The police and firemen were in disbelief at what they were seeing. It was really erie as the front clip was just sitting in the middle of the road about 50ft away form the rest of the car. The clip never seperated so imagine taking a saw and cutting straight down the firewall and thats what was sitting there. Wheels, engine, fenders everything. Just crazy.
After I finally got the insurance company to let me go and look at the car I inspected it very closely. The car split right at the "soft" welds on the chassis. A friend of mine still has a picture to this day.
After I finally got the insurance company to let me go and look at the car I inspected it very closely. The car split right at the "soft" welds on the chassis. A friend of mine still has a picture to this day.
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Depending on the momentum, force and angle of the impact, any car can split in half. Honda/Acura is not a bad car to be in vs other models on the road, during an unfortunate incident. You just happen to see the media cover 2 incidents with Honda's.
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the car was ripped at at points were welding is done for the UNI-Body. Its no surprise really, early benzes are heavy chunks of metal. The accord was hit at 50 MPH and put a tremendous stress on the welds and unibody. It looks like the main cage for the UNI-body absorbed the stress causing the momentum to break the welds. RIP for the girl that died
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I've seen a guy AND his car get ripped in half as he wrapped himself around a tree going over 100mph in a 35mph zone (imagine the scene as the firefighters had to extricate his body in parts). I think just about any car would split in half if it was t-boned at excessive speeds, especially if there is no attempt to stop.
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I've owned 2 Benzes. It was always a comfort to be in them. Some of the survivor stories we shared on Benz forums were amazing. Having said that, my condolences to the family of the victims. This is truly sad.
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yea this is an old topic. the car looked horrible in person and if u see the direction and how the car was hit and from the angles it was hit... you'd understand y the car split and half of it disappeared. my 03 tl type s was split in half when i smashed a pole at 20-30mph in the passenger b pillar. a kid in my neighborhood blew a stop sign and smashed the nose off the car and threw me into a pole. the cars are made to collapse to some degree when hit.
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Both of these were side impact at 50-60 mph and not a direct crash into the side, but an offset crash where they hit the front or back. I am not that surprised that this is the result.
The IIHS side impact crash tests are done at 31 mph completely perpendicular to the passenger cabin. Since the majority of the strengthening is along the B pillar area and extends out from there, and the fact that front and rear crash areas have been make so strong that they are likely not to collapse in this type of crash, seeing a car ripped in half probably would have been the case no matter what the car.
It is truly sad that both people that all the people that died did so at the hands of such scum of society. I hope that the judges threw the book at them in both cases.
The IIHS side impact crash tests are done at 31 mph completely perpendicular to the passenger cabin. Since the majority of the strengthening is along the B pillar area and extends out from there, and the fact that front and rear crash areas have been make so strong that they are likely not to collapse in this type of crash, seeing a car ripped in half probably would have been the case no matter what the car.
It is truly sad that both people that all the people that died did so at the hands of such scum of society. I hope that the judges threw the book at them in both cases.
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i dunno lets think about physics...shall we ladies??? 4500-5000lbs coming at u at a crazy excessive speed like over 80mph-120mph because it was a cl55 and getting to those speeds on a strip like the one the kid had to gain the speed was really easy and hitting a moving object at around or below 40mph... thats like the tl was standing still and the moment dicky doo had....yea say goodbye its like a bomb about to go off.
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lets get logical
a parallel crash and a perpendicular crash test are conducted for safety, honda & acura exceed safety standards, the reason these cars are split, is as mentioned before the angle of impact, conditions and above all the speed at which the other car is impacting the honda/acura
a parallel crash and a perpendicular crash test are conducted for safety, honda & acura exceed safety standards, the reason these cars are split, is as mentioned before the angle of impact, conditions and above all the speed at which the other car is impacting the honda/acura
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I heard about both of those accidents, very sad but I will continue to drive my Accord and my TL. Are they safe? I think so, safer than some other cars on the road, IMO.
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There's a link to the video of the first accident. The car split in half because it was rammed into a steel signal post by a car going 100 mph. If you can find a car that would make it out of that situation okay, I'd be really surprised.
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I've personally seen an Integra split in half and another one, a Civic if I remember right on the local news split in half. Definately only seen that in Honda products. The TL is a tank in a frontal crash though.
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