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Old 03-05-2009, 09:08 PM
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Accord VS BMW

ok guys question for u need some feedback..my friend asked me to race him in his 2007 bmw 328i so i said i dont know ill c when i get my car back.. he starts laughing and says dont even bother forget it ur gonna lose to me ne way so i said whys that, i said it would be a good race but u wont destroy me if thats what ur thinking in my oppinion id rather like to think ill beat him in the long run..lol

2007 bmw 328 i is a 3.0 liter V6 230Hp DOHC
2007 Accord is a 3.0 liter V6 with 244 Hp SOHC

now i know my car has mods but i dont think it boosted me that much maybe like 250 or 255 if im lucky i still havent gotten it dynoed just to see what it really is..but i wanna do J-Pipe,Rv6 test pipe,PC delets and stuff..ttyl guys be safe
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run him from a roll first. you can probably take him from a dig too since you have intake, exhaust and 6mt
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run him from a roll first. you can probably take him from a dig too since you have intake, exhaust and 6mt
She's auto...it will be close.
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She's auto...it will be close.

thanks sonnick for correcting that for me i was like me 6mt nooo..lol the bmw and i are both autos...
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oh. i wonder why i thought you were 6mt? my bad. should be a close race from a dig. if you have tiptronic, do it from a roll
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is the 328i a coupe? if so, is there a major weight difference?
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the 328i he has at least is a sedan and i have a sedan as well weight is about the same were both around 3400lbs i believe around there maybe alil more give or take
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ohs ok, from your avatar i assumed coupe for some reason, but ok, seems like a good race xP
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i think it will be a good race with the Honda winning.
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theoretically it's gonna be close.
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I've driven the E90 328i and own an 07 AV6 EX-L (both autos) and my SOTP feel tells me that the the Bimmer is quicker. Honestly (and maybe it's because my prior car was an 02 Maxima), the 7G AV6 5AT is a slug.
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i have a 02 maxima, and yeah they are sleeper status to me because they pull pretty hard when you get on it. they have the vq35de engine same as g35's.surprised the hell outta me lol.
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Them 328i are slow. I have a co worker who has one at my job and pulled on him everytime.....you should win.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I've driven the E90 328i and own an 07 AV6 EX-L (both autos) and my SOTP feel tells me that the the Bimmer is quicker. Honestly (and maybe it's because my prior car was an 02 Maxima), the 7G AV6 5AT is a slug.
seems to me that the 06-07 Auto AV6's are much slower than the 03-05 AV6 Autos. All 1/4 mile times I have seen prove that and I don't understand why! Same for the 98-99 AV6's were much faster than the 00-02 AV6's.

I have beat a couple 330i Autos and a older E36 M3 Auto all stock. I would say with I/E you should pull out on top. It will be close all through 1st gear thats for sure!
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I'm NOT that confident that my AV6 5AT could beat a well driven K24 Accord 5MT from 0-60mph.

While I love the fuel economy (good for a 240hp+ midsize V6 sedan), I can't think of a slower V6 family sedan for the 07 model year. Well equipped/built car overall but, I can't wait to turn it back in (off lease) in 10 months.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
seems to me that the 06-07 Auto AV6's are much slower than the 03-05 AV6 Autos. All 1/4 mile times I have seen prove that and I don't understand why! Same for the 98-99 AV6's were much faster than the 00-02 AV6's.
shifted towards making gas savers. less hp = more mpg (most of the time) i think more people buy hondas for being a more gas friendly family-type car than the performance aspects.

seems pretty understandable to me.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I'm NOT that confident that my AV6 5AT could beat a well driven K24 Accord 5MT from 0-60mph.

While I love the fuel economy (good for a 240hp+ midsize V6 sedan), I can't think of a slower V6 family sedan for the 07 model year. Well equipped/built car overall but, I can't wait to turn it back in (off lease) in 10 months.
lol I am confidant you would beat one to 60mph. Even with an Excellent driver the 7th gen K24 5MT will run to 60 in about 7.5 seconds. Look on you tube at the 0-60 times of even the modded K24 5MT don't even compare to the 7th gen V6 auto stock vids.
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
shifted towards making gas savers. less hp = more mpg (most of the time) i think more people buy hondas for being a more gas friendly family-type car than the performance aspects.

seems pretty understandable to me.
You know I would think that More HP saves more gas since the vehicle would have a better power to weight ratio. Less effort to pull the weight down the road. Thats why the 7th gen AV6 gets better mileage than the 6th gen AV6 even with 40HP more and 17TQ more.
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you should take him
328i is weaksauce
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i never really thought my car was a SLUG and moved like Shit lol..i guess its cause im a girl and dont really need ne thing to fast or to extreme. im pretty happy wit the accord it moves quite well for me.i think the car is quick not fast but quick ive beaten my sisters 2005 acura TL 3.2 liter 270 Hp so i think i can take a 328i it would be close but i do think id come out on top.. and i dont think the older accords like the 03 and 05 are faster then the 7th gens at all i race alot of older accords and ive beaten them all. but then again everyone that drives isnt proffesional..lol..but i got this from car and driver its a comparsion test of the 7th gen auto accord Vs the hyundai sonata V6 auto.. and this is what they said





Honda claims a mild 4-hp increase in engine output, to 244 at 6250 rpm. We've never thought the Accord was underpowered; Honda apparently thought otherwise. The 2006 Accord ripped through the acceleration test to 60 mph in 6.6 seconds, a tie with the Sonata, then strongly broke to the front to clear the quarter-mile in 15.1 seconds at 95 mph. For the record, the old Accord needed 7.0 seconds to hit 60 and was 3 mph slower in the quarter.




2006 Honda Accord EX V-6 - Comparison Test

Highs: Muscular handling, serious acceleration, best-dressed interior.
Lows: Suspension muscles tell you about all the bumps, back-seat space tightest of the group.
The Verdict: The nice little Accord grew up to be a muscle car.




i heard the 7th gen 6MT does 0 to 60 in 5.9..but those 0 to 60 times are like with proffesional drivers..lol not the fastest car in the neighborhood but shes decent and i love her..lol ttyl guys be safe
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why are you even racing cars like this?
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why not..lol shits and giggles my friend shits and giggles..lol
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Originally Posted by 07HONDATL
i never really thought my car was a SLUG and moved like Shit lol..i guess its cause im a girl and dont really need ne thing to fast or to extreme. im pretty happy wit the accord it moves quite well for me.i think the car is quick not fast but quick ive beaten my sisters 2005 acura TL 3.2 liter 270 Hp so i think i can take a 328i it would be close but i do think id come out on top.. and i dont think the older accords like the 03 and 05 are faster then the 7th gens at all i race alot of older accords and ive beaten them all. but then again everyone that drives isnt proffesional..lol..but i got this from car and driver its a comparsion test of the 7th gen auto accord Vs the hyundai sonata V6 auto.. and this is what they said





Honda claims a mild 4-hp increase in engine output, to 244 at 6250 rpm. We've never thought the Accord was underpowered; Honda apparently thought otherwise. The 2006 Accord ripped through the acceleration test to 60 mph in 6.6 seconds, a tie with the Sonata, then strongly broke to the front to clear the quarter-mile in 15.1 seconds at 95 mph. For the record, the old Accord needed 7.0 seconds to hit 60 and was 3 mph slower in the quarter.




2006 Honda Accord EX V-6 - Comparison Test

Highs: Muscular handling, serious acceleration, best-dressed interior.
Lows: Suspension muscles tell you about all the bumps, back-seat space tightest of the group.
The Verdict: The nice little Accord grew up to be a muscle car.




i heard the 7th gen 6MT does 0 to 60 in 5.9..but those 0 to 60 times are like with proffesional drivers..lol not the fastest car in the neighborhood but shes decent and i love her..lol ttyl guys be safe
yeah, I have that Car and Driver issue and it did encourage me in leasing my AV6, as the test numbers were very similar to those that I posted at the track in my Maxima. Unfortunately, the reality is that my Maxima could run circles around my AV6. Now, had I come from my old 99 Accord 4cylinder directly to my 07 AV6 then, I would better appreciate that 244/211 of its J30A5.

As far as the base 3G TL comparison, both cars are neck-and-neck when it comes to acceleration, with the TL pulling away at higher speeds.

Back to the topic, dont sleep on the 328i.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
You know I would think that More HP saves more gas since the vehicle would have a better power to weight ratio. Less effort to pull the weight down the road. Thats why the 7th gen AV6 gets better mileage than the 6th gen AV6 even with 40HP more and 17TQ more.
hmm, i guess they figured out how to become more efficient xP
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Originally Posted by F23A4
yeah, I have that Car and Driver issue and it did encourage me in leasing my AV6, as the test numbers were very similar to those that I posted at the track in my Maxima. Unfortunately, the reality is that my Maxima could run circles around my AV6. Now, had I come from my old 99 Accord 4cylinder directly to my 07 AV6 then, I would better appreciate that 244/211 of its J30A5.

Back to the topic, dont sleep on the 328i.
Something is different with your Accord though F23A4. I remember you said you ran a 16.3 at englishtown and that is the SLOWEST 7th gen AV6 time I have ever seen for your model. I have seen stock 6th gens run faster than that at englishtown. Even when i ran my accord at 100 degrees at 3075ft elevation I still ran a 15.5 stock lol. Your accord stock should be running atleast low 15's at that track.
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lemme tell u this i raced my freinds Bmw 328i with my base TL, and whipped him, nothing specail.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
Something is different with your Accord though F23A4. I remember you said you ran a 16.3 at englishtown and that is the SLOWEST 7th gen AV6 time I have ever seen for your model. I have seen stock 6th gens run faster than that at englishtown. Even when i ran my accord at 100 degrees at 3075ft elevation I still ran a 15.5 stock lol. Your accord stock should be running atleast low 15's at that track.
Quite simply, it's DEAD off the line. Granted, I've not gone back to the track since then and it just may do a bit better but let's just say that I'm still not inclined to towards drag racing it. And , I've seen a few 6G V6s run in the 15.7-15.8 range.

On the highway (where mid-range is more into play), my AV6 feels almost as quick as my 02 Maxima....provided I keep the rpms on the high side. Overall (and like most Hondas), it's generally a nice car in search of some more torque under the hood and a little more interior space --- both of which seemed to have been addressed in the 8G Accord. ( to Honda on that!)
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lol, after all, your J30 is missing 500cc if you put it against the VQ35.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
On the highway (where mid-range is more into play), my AV6 feels almost as quick as my 02 Maxima....provided I keep the rpms on the high side. Overall (and like most Hondas), it's generally a nice car in search of some more torque under the hood and a little more interior space --- both of which seemed to have been addressed in the 8G Accord. ( to Honda on that!)
Less than an hour ago, I had run with an new Charger RT on an empty stretch of highway (which will remain nameless to protect the not so innocent) and judging by acceleration from 85 to 130mph, I think my Accord might be a bit quicker than my Maxima @ midrange.

Regarding the RT, he was already 3 car lengths ahead of me @ 85mph when he floored (heard the exhaust) and then I floored it. When I was at 130mph I figured he had to be going about 15 to 20mph faster and a few bus lengths ahead of me. (Kind of makes me wonder how much bad the margin might have been had I been driving a TL Type S 6MT rather than Accord V6 5AT)
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Less than an hour ago, I had run with an new Charger RT on an empty stretch of highway (which will remain nameless to protect the not so innocent) and judging by acceleration from 85 to 130mph, I think my Accord might be a bit quicker than my Maxima @ midrange.
yeahs i've floored it with my maxima at midrange and didnt get the same pull but i think the maxima has more low end power anyways. that and i was in an auto xP no downshift? D=
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yeahs i've floored it with my maxima at midrange and didnt get the same pull but i think the maxima has more low end power anyways. that and i was in an auto xP no downshift? D=


I may need to borrow my old Maxima (which is now owned by my wife's cousin) and hook up with my son to do some comparison runs vs the Accord.
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Originally Posted by F23A4


I may need to borrow my old Maxima (which is now owned by my wife's cousin) and hook up with my son to do some comparison runs vs the Accord.
Is that you in your avatar? You handsome devil! I think your maxima would take your accord.
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LOL!!! I record any of the 'testing' we do.
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I may need to borrow my old Maxima (which is now owned by my wife's cousin) and hook up with my son to do some comparison runs vs the Accord.
Since both are stock I am going to say that the accord will win from a roll and the maxima will win from a dead stop.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
Since both are stock I am going to say that the accord will win from a roll and the maxima will win from a dead stop.
The Maxima still has the Injen CAI, Cattman Y pipe and UR crank pulley. The CAI killed some of the lowend from the moment I installed it but seemed to gain @ midrange. The Ypipe (which was my first mod) seemed to be an improvement throughout the entire power band. The jury is out on the pulley but I picked it up for only $90 and UR claims a decent increase of 8-12hp.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
The Maxima still has the Injen CAI, Cattman Y pipe and UR crank pulley. The CAI killed some of the lowend from the moment I installed it but seemed to gain @ midrange. The Ypipe (which was my first mod) seemed to be an improvement throughout the entire power band. The jury is out on the pulley but I picked it up for only $90 and UR claims a decent increase of 8-12hp.
ahhhh well then the Maxima should win then! Didn't realize you had the mods on it. Still it will be interesting to see how the accord stacks up from a roll. Let us know the outcome(with videos!)
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LOL cattman? D= i think they've discontinued those parts haha
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That mod was installed on my Maxima back when you were in middle school.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
The Maxima still has the Injen CAI, Cattman Y pipe and UR crank pulley. The CAI killed some of the lowend from the moment I installed it but seemed to gain @ midrange. The Ypipe (which was my first mod) seemed to be an improvement throughout the entire power band. The jury is out on the pulley but I picked it up for only $90 and UR claims a decent increase of 8-12hp.
You're lucky.. It took me almost 2k(full catback exhaust/mid pipe and intake) just to pick up 10 hp!! I dynoed @ 268RWHP!! There was a s/c package but it cost 6k for maybe 40hp!
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Originally Posted by F23A4
That mod was installed on my Maxima back when you were in middle school.
lol true, i heard sound clips of it last year when i decided to try and mod it, x_x imo sounded like shit lol the headers and the exhaust mods x_X horrible sounding backfire. high-pitched tone. but power is power i guess xp then i found out it was discontinued and joined acurazine =]


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