6sp MT high engagement point? No problem, free 3 minute fix.
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6sp MT high engagement point? No problem, free 3 minute fix.
Well it wasn't high engagement but it was higher than I preferred. Now this isn't changing the engagement point but it makes feel way better as the travel time is reduced.
Now everyone drives, clutches, shifts differently and in differently rythms so the cool part is you can adjust the "height" of the clutch stop however you like. Please note that you don't want the clutch stop too thick as to prevent full disengagement, also the clutch needs to go down to a certain point to start the car.
Behind the clutch is a black rubber stop. It simply pulls out. Now with it out, just find some rubber in the house and double sided tape. I put 2 pieces of rubber and thus 2 pieces of double sided tape. The driving experience is much better now, eventhough the clutch stop is now only about .75 of an inch taller now. Oh also check your clutch fluid while you're at it mine was low so it also played a part in my engagement.
Now everyone drives, clutches, shifts differently and in differently rythms so the cool part is you can adjust the "height" of the clutch stop however you like. Please note that you don't want the clutch stop too thick as to prevent full disengagement, also the clutch needs to go down to a certain point to start the car.
Behind the clutch is a black rubber stop. It simply pulls out. Now with it out, just find some rubber in the house and double sided tape. I put 2 pieces of rubber and thus 2 pieces of double sided tape. The driving experience is much better now, eventhough the clutch stop is now only about .75 of an inch taller now. Oh also check your clutch fluid while you're at it mine was low so it also played a part in my engagement.
Last edited by piggydog; 06-29-2009 at 05:04 PM.
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hmmm did you see any fluid anywhere? I'm not seeing any fluid.I'll know in a few weeks if it gets low on fluid or not.
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Did you know that both the in & out stops, as well as the clutch grab point are adjustable? No need for a ghetto fix like this that may tear, wear through or fall off. To fix pedal-out height, all you do is unplug the clutch-out switch (#7 in pic), loosen the jam-nut and give it a couple turns. To adjust pedal-in height, you do the same for the clutch-in switch (#5). To change the clutch grab point, you alter the position of the pedal connection on the clutch master cylinder rod. Very easy...
I have all 4 of my cars adjusted so the pedal height is the same and clutch grabs at the same position. Makes it very easy to swtich cars...
I have all 4 of my cars adjusted so the pedal height is the same and clutch grabs at the same position. Makes it very easy to swtich cars...
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No sir...no fluid was visible...but someone told me to check the rubber grommet at the slave...you have to get under the front and pull back the slider pin cover...if it's wet, it's the "o" ring leaking.
If you determine that it is...PM me and I'll give you some guidance...pretty straightforward replacement and now my clutch is hard and normal and grabs high as I had hoped. Fluid being low...as much as we may not want to think it, it doesn't evaporate (I don't think) and is usually not a good thing.
If you determine that it is...PM me and I'll give you some guidance...pretty straightforward replacement and now my clutch is hard and normal and grabs high as I had hoped. Fluid being low...as much as we may not want to think it, it doesn't evaporate (I don't think) and is usually not a good thing.
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Did you know that both the in & out stops, as well as the clutch grab point are adjustable? No need for a ghetto fix like this that may tear, wear through or fall off. To fix pedal-out height, all you do is unplug the clutch-out switch (#7 in pic), loosen the jam-nut and give it a couple turns. To adjust pedal-in height, you do the same for the clutch-in switch (#5). To change the clutch grab point, you alter the position of the pedal connection on the clutch master cylinder rod. Very easy...
I have all 4 of my cars adjusted so the pedal height is the same and clutch grabs at the same position. Makes it very easy to swtich cars...
I have all 4 of my cars adjusted so the pedal height is the same and clutch grabs at the same position. Makes it very easy to swtich cars...
is #7 the clutch engagement adjuster, or the master cyl rod that I need to adjust?
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Check the slave...I was on the same path as you thinking I was going to just adjust something on the pedal to make it grab higher...not sure if we're on the same page but I was having to press almost to the floor to get it to engage...
Turns out it was a leaky slave o ring...that made the fluid drop down to the point where air was introduced.
Turns out it was a leaky slave o ring...that made the fluid drop down to the point where air was introduced.
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Check the slave...I was on the same path as you thinking I was going to just adjust something on the pedal to make it grab higher...not sure if we're on the same page but I was having to press almost to the floor to get it to engage...
Turns out it was a leaky slave o ring...that made the fluid drop down to the point where air was introduced.
Turns out it was a leaky slave o ring...that made the fluid drop down to the point where air was introduced.
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Thanks you so much. Does #7 have like a relay going into it? And the engagement is too high to my liking (I'd like it closer to the floor, right now there is too much travel on the uptake before it grabs). Will I be turning it clockwise or counter clockwise?
is #7 the clutch engagement adjuster, or the master cyl rod that I need to adjust?
is #7 the clutch engagement adjuster, or the master cyl rod that I need to adjust?
The master cylinder rod is the one that adjusts the engagment point. Break loose the jam nut and turn the rod a few turns by hand. Then toque the jam-nut & test drive. When facing the fire wall, turning the rod counter-clock-wise will make it engage lower in the storke (this sounds like what you want). Turning it clock-wise makes it higher in the storke.
Altering this will also change the clutch pedal's "free-play" after the clutch is let out. You must then adjust the #7 switch accordingly. Set it so you have a tiny bit of "free-play" before the clutch pedal starts to move fluid. Otherwise your throwout bearing will always be pushing against the pressure plate.
If you've moved the clutch engagment point lower, you will need to screw the #7 switch in closer towards the pedal (clockwise). Unplug the siwtch, loosen the jam nut, and screw said switch towards the pedal until it's snug. At this point the switch is pressing the pedal and trying to move fluid. Then simply back it out half a turn and check the pedal for free play. If it's good, torque the jam-nut, plug in the switch and you should be in buisness.
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Let us all know how it goes...
BTW: You could also simply make the "clutch-in" position higher by screwing the #5 switch in towards the pedal. This way you don't have to mess with all the other stuff. It's just not as good as doing it the other way becuase it makes your #22 rubber stopper useless (since your no longer hitting it). That means all your stompy foot pressure is going directly onto that #5 switch and it's tiny plastic #8 stopper.
Adjusting by the MC rod is better...
BTW: You could also simply make the "clutch-in" position higher by screwing the #5 switch in towards the pedal. This way you don't have to mess with all the other stuff. It's just not as good as doing it the other way becuase it makes your #22 rubber stopper useless (since your no longer hitting it). That means all your stompy foot pressure is going directly onto that #5 switch and it's tiny plastic #8 stopper.
Adjusting by the MC rod is better...
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Slave is on the front of the tranny...you can see the bleed nipple for it when looking down directly behind the radiator to the right of the motor. Easiest to get to from below...
If it ain't the problem...thank goodness...sounds like you got your issue figured out!
Happy 4th!
If it ain't the problem...thank goodness...sounds like you got your issue figured out!
Happy 4th!
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Slave is on the front of the tranny...you can see the bleed nipple for it when looking down directly behind the radiator to the right of the motor. Easiest to get to from below...
If it ain't the problem...thank goodness...sounds like you got your issue figured out!
Happy 4th!
If it ain't the problem...thank goodness...sounds like you got your issue figured out!
Happy 4th!
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Does anyone want to explain this in layman terms? I'm getting a new clutch very soon and am pleased to hear about this adjusting...
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http://www.fixautopartz.com/2009/03/...dal-adjustment
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