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Old 11-28-2007, 07:46 AM
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i brake torque anywhere between 2K to 2500rpms and jus get a quick chirp and catch
Old 11-28-2007, 10:00 AM
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How good of a driver can you be driving a 5AT G35?
About as good of a driver driving anything else. On the strip, my G auto is probably the easiest car I've ever raced on the strip next to my old 94 Z28 auto. Foot on brake, mash gas to floor (2400rpms), release brake, manually shift the 2 to 3 and it's consistent 2.1 60 foots and 14.3-14.4s with barely a chirp of the tires. I'm #7 on the G35driver.com modified 1/4 list and and I'm by far the least modified in the group. I must be doing something right.

On the street it's a crap shoot. The tires might spin 5' or they might spin through most of 1st gear. At least with RWD, even when the tires are spinning, you're stilling going forward at a very decent pace. Launching my 5MT modded Maxima was always a bear at the track, but I still was able to get lower 2.1 60 foots launching at 4500rpms with a little clutch slip. I quickly learned that launching a high powered/high torque FWD car is a royal pain. Those days are over for me.
Old 11-28-2007, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Foot on brake, mash gas to floor (2400rpms), release brake, manually shift the 2 to 3 and it's consistent 2.1 60 foots and 14.3-14.4s with barely a chirp of the tires. I'm #7 on the G35driver.com modified 1/4 list and and I'm by far the least modified in the group. I must be doing something right.
Well, you are not the only one that drives like that on the 1/4 mile. Most people with automatic transmissions brake torque and use the manual mode to max each gear. Its not a big secret that only "good" drivers know...
what mods do you have? maybe ur car is a lil factory freak to be number 7 with the least amount of mods.
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what mods do you have anyways? You always seem to brag about G35's and their superior 1/4 mile times. You claim to be #7 with the least amount of mods, then that means that G35's with most of the bolt-ons cant be faster than 14.4? Sounds weird
Old 11-28-2007, 11:16 AM
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I wouldn't bother now, cold weather, bad tires, you'll get romped. He might have less power but he has an extra gear.
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Originally Posted by juruki
Well, you are not the only one that drives like that on the 1/4 mile. Most people with automatic transmissions brake torque and use the manual mode to max each gear. Its not a big secret that only "good" drivers know...
what mods do you have? maybe ur car is a lil factory freak to be number 7 with the least amount of mods.
Brake torquing is a must for just about every automatic. Some cars do better manually shifting and some don't. For my G35, manually shifting works best because it will upshift into 4th which kills my 1/4 mile times about a couple tenths. My car is not a factory freak. There is no such thing as factory freak these days. Build tolerances are just too tight. This isn't the 1960s. The only freak things are stellar conditions, a fast track, and a good driver. My runs have been done in conditions ranging from sea level to about 1,500'. My track is neither fast nor slow.
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Originally Posted by juruki
what mods do you have anyways? You always seem to brag about G35's and their superior 1/4 mile times. You claim to be #7 with the least amount of mods, then that means that G35's with most of the bolt-ons cant be faster than 14.4? Sounds weird
My mods when I ran my 14.32@98mph was a 350Z intake pipe which doesn't add any HP. Since the 350Z pipe is technically "mod", I was kicked into the modified list. I've run higher 14.3s@99+ with an intake spacer, but the conditions were a bit worse. Most G's on the NA modified list are running intake spacers, headers, high flow cats, ECU flashes, true dual exhausts, and drag radials. Their times range from 13.2s@104mph to high 13s@101mph. It's all dependant on the amount of mods and tires.

My car currently only had one power mod and that's the spacer. I have added the 25lb lighter midpipe from the 05/06 sedan, but all it adds is noise, not power. I'd imagine in sea level conditions, my G is capable of some 14.1s@100mph, maybe a high 14.0 if I can land a lower 2.0 60'.
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
My mods when I ran my 14.32@98mph was a 350Z intake pipe which doesn't add any HP. Since the 350Z pipe is technically "mod", I was kicked into the modified list. I've run higher 14.3s@99+ with an intake spacer, but the conditions were a bit worse. Most G's on the NA modified list are running intake spacers, headers, high flow cats, ECU flashes, true dual exhausts, and drag radials. Their times range from 13.2s@104mph to high 13s@101mph. It's all dependant on the amount of mods and tires.

My car currently only had one power mod and that's the spacer. I have added the 25lb lighter midpipe from the 05/06 sedan, but all it adds is noise, not power. I'd imagine in sea level conditions, my G is capable of some 14.1s@100mph, maybe a high 14.0 if I can land a lower 2.0 60'.
and you probably took out your backseat/spare ect....

Just a little history...the G35 auto and 02 TL-S were identical in quarter mile and 0-60 in several comparos they were in TOGETHER back in 2002-03. You probably run at a good track with weight savings and good driving. Congrats.

I say race the altima....from your kill stories im sure you could take him, or at least give him a race. If he was auto, you would definitely take him (esp. the 4 speed autos)
Old 11-29-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K2SilverTL-S
and you probably took out your backseat/spare ect....

Just a little history...the G35 auto and 02 TL-S were identical in quarter mile and 0-60 in several comparos they were in TOGETHER back in 2002-03. You probably run at a good track with weight savings and good driving. Congrats.
Yes, I removed the 25lb spare and that's why I ran 14.3s Yes, the comparisions between the 03-04 G35 sedan auto and TL auto had very close, if not identical 1/4 mile times (14.8s I believe). The thing is the mags have stated on more than one occasion that they let the G35 auto shift itself the entire run. If you let the auto shift itself the entire run, you not be extracting the most performance. If left in automatic mode, the car shifts the 2-3 at 6200rpms and the 3-4 at 6000rpms. That's 400 and 600 rpms short of redline and not ideal. By letting my G shift itself it runs 14.6s. If I manually shift it and hold 3rd to the finish, it runs 14.3s. My track is neither fast nor slow. It's located at an elevation of about 1000' and my runs have been done in conditions ranging from 175' to 1,500'. That's nothing spectacular nor very harmful to the way the car performs.

Getting the most out of G35 5AT doesn't require a whole lot of skill, but you do need to know what you're doing or else the car will be about .2 to .4 seconds slower. With that said, my 14.3s aren't anything terribly impressive. There are two other 03 5AT sedans I know that have run 14.2s bonestock. What's the fastest recorded stock or lightly modded 5AT TL/TLS? 14.6s?
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Yes, I removed the 25lb spare and that's why I ran 14.3s Yes, the comparisions between the 03-04 G35 sedan auto and TL auto had very close, if not identical 1/4 mile times (14.8s I believe). The thing is the mags have stated on more than one occasion that they let the G35 auto shift itself the entire run. If you let the auto shift itself the entire run, you not be extracting the most performance. If left in automatic mode, the car shifts the 2-3 at 6200rpms and the 3-4 at 6000rpms. That's 400 and 600 rpms short of redline and not ideal. By letting my G shift itself it runs 14.6s.
Same thing happends with the TL, it will shift way b4 redline if u leave it in full auto mode.
If you are number 7 in the modified list then that means that heavily modded G35's cant break into the 13's?
Old 11-29-2007, 02:57 PM
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RUF's 2nd gen TL-S runs 14.46, certainly there are faster ones.
Old 11-29-2007, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by juruki
If you are number 7 in the modified list then that means that heavily modded G35's cant break into the 13's?
Looks like the list has been updated. As you can see, there are plenty of modded NA G35s deep in the 13s.

1. trey.hutcheson - 05 - Sedan - 6MT - 13.264@103.96 - 1.895 60ft - Verified --- BFG DR's -- 975ft DA - 13.13@105.05 Corrected
2. abailey269 ----- 04 - Sedan - 6MT - 13.631@101.57 - 1.966 60ft - Verified --- BFG DR's
3. bosssho -------- 05 - Coupe - 5AT - 13.858@102.73 - 2.134 60ft - Verified --- Nitto DR's
4. Nismo G -------- 03 - Coupe - 5AT - 13.860@100.40 - 2.075 60ft - Verified --- Street ---- 985ft DA - 13.72@101.45 Corrected
5. norcal_chan69 -- 06 - Coupe - 6MT - 13.963@103.22 - 2.295 60ft - Verified --- Street
6. da_mayor ------- 06 - Sedan - 6MT - 14.002@100.46 - ?.??? 60ft - Verified --- Street
7. Crappyday ------ 03 - Coupe - 5AT - 14.053@99.28 -- 2.078 60ft - Verified --- Street ---- 703ft DA - 13.95@100.01 Corrected
8. 98intrigue ----- 04 - Coupe - 6MT - 14.07@99 ------ ?.??? 60ft - Unverified - Street
9. Klubbheads ----- 04 - Sedan - 6MT - 14.22@96.89 --- 2.170 60ft - Unverified - Street --- 1830ft DA
10. Zerk ---------- 03 - Coupe - 5AT - 14.235@97.5 --- 2.155 60ft - Verified --- Street ---- 184ft DA - 14.26@97.32 Corrected
11. DaveB --------- 03 - Sedan - 5AT - 14.320@97.73 -- 2.158 60ft - Verified --- Street ---- 175ft DA
12. mike281 ------- 06 - Coupe - 5AT - 14.328@97.31 -- 2.258 60ft - Verified --- Street --- 1567ft DA - 14.08@98.98 Corrected
13. helldorado ---- 05 - Coupe - 5AT - 14.330@97.47 -- 2.150 60ft - Verified --- Street --- -709ft DA
14. dualGz -------- 03 - Sedan - ??? - 14.726@93.52 -- 2.259 60ft - Unverified - Street --- ????ft DA
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I see 1 guy "DEEP" into 13's with dr's...
other 2 with 13.8 with DRAG RADIALS.
Type-S09 got a 13.99 with street tires and only a CAI hehe
Type-S09 has the regular TL so im sure the type S can do a lil better.
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If you could get a good launch out the gate, you may be able to hold him. Right now with the cold weather VQ's arent going to good off the light. Just for the record, The G's are alittle slower than the alt/max when modded due to the g being heavier with less torque. Oh just for the record, i've been 13.2 @106mph on street tire!
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^ what car and mods??
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02 max 6mt, i/h/e/p and newly added lspec chip. Race weight was 3400 pounds.
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Originally Posted by abuckfifd
02 max 6mt, i/h/e/p and newly added lspec chip. Race weight was 3400 pounds.
that's about the same as one of the CL-S 5AT!
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