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Old 05-31-2012, 03:37 PM
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3G TL-S vs Modded E30

As promised, I can went out and did a few friendly runs with user DisgustipatedAP1. Here are the results:

20 Roll:

55 ish Roll(Camera started after the honk):

40 Roll:

From a dig(He had trouble getting traction and missed a gear):
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so Id guess his car is mid 13s ish
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Disgustipated's car is impressive. I don't know if you have any motor mods paperboy, but I think it would take all the bolt-ons available to hang with him. BTW Great Videos!

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PaperBoy what are your mods?
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All I have is intake resonator box delete and mid-muffler delete and coolant bypass. None of those really improve power so it's like stock lol
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Nice runs. He was pulling pretty good from the 20 and 40 rolls, but the 55 barely pulled at all. I'm assuming he started in 3rd? As I said his car is quick, but judging by the vids and considering you're stock (?) I don't think it's a 107-108mph car. Definitely quick though. And good job getting vids!
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After watching these vids I'm actually pretty confident I'd pull that E30.

Nice vids.

Edit - was there a passenger in the E30 as well?
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^ Yea. In the dig run there is a passenger so I'm assuming he's in the car on all runs.
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All I have is intake resonator box delete and mid-muffler delete and coolant bypass. None of those really improve power so it's like stock lol
man for being stock pretty much, you hung with him pretty decent...And didnt you have tranny issues? or was that fixed?

Man don't know if its the videos or what not but like Sonnick mentioned it does not look like a 107-108mph car in 1/4.....my guess it seems like a high 13s E30 which is still impressive

I will have to go and race a fairly stock TypeS 5at to see how much I pull...oh wait actually there is a video out......A member on here was at the track with me and he had a 2.3 60' and I had a 2.4 60' and I ended up running a 14.2 @ 101mph and he ran 14.5 @ 96.xx...and he jumped off the line quicker i believe .503 vs. my .619 or something and I not only caught up but ended the 1/4 like a car and half ahead!

If only he could post that video.....
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Originally Posted by Yonkersracing
After watching these vids I'm actually pretty confident I'd pull that E30.

Nice vids.

Edit - was there a passenger in the E30 as well?
All I have is an intake and exhaust + tune. Imagine if I had headers, cams, Euro air flow sensor... 260-270 whp all motor. Plus my car weighs far less. You can believe you'll win all you want, but that doesn't make it true.

I'll be running Paperboy again, probably tonight if he wants, but with just us in the car, no passengers.

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Another thing to note... I had about 100 lbs more worth of people in my car. I weigh 195, my cousin weighs 220... Paperboy weighs a solid 140 lbs (slim build) and his friend weighs about 160-170. So I'd like to just have driver vs driver tonight.

And since Paperboy doesn't have to shift I think he could video it.

Also, I'm running a 2.93 final drive (and I think the diff might be going out from hard launching LOL ) which is for boost, so I might try to switch to a 3.15 or 3.23. That'd really wake the car up. But I'm also ready to just throw on 10 psi on a supercharger.

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I also wanted to say that Paperboy's TL-S is MUCH faster than the one I raced on the freeway. I was pulling way more cars on that guy much faster. I am wondering if the one I raced was a 6 MT with a shitty driver, because he was nowhere near Paperboy's Type S.
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Nice runs guys.

Both cars are running good. Little E30 is quick.

I'd like to get a few runs in while I still have the G (don't have too much longer until my monster arrives). Let me know next time this goes down.
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Originally Posted by Vasher
Nice runs guys.

Both cars are running good. Little E30 is quick.

I'd like to get a few runs in while I still have the G (don't have too much longer until my monster arrives). Let me know next time this goes down.
Where are you located at? And are you on GolfMKV as well?
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I'm in Porter Ranch (SFV).

Vash on MKV.

Some runs against a stock G should give you a good idea of where your car is at.
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Originally Posted by Vasher
I'm in Porter Ranch (SFV).

Vash on MKV.

Some runs against a stock G should give you a good idea of where your car is at.
Yeah I talked to you on there too! We're kinda far from you (like 80+ miles) but when I go see my gf in SFV I can meet up with you.

And I need to stop baby-launching my car... I launch at like 2K RPM, I think I need to be launching at 3k or so.
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Originally Posted by Sonnick
Nice runs. He was pulling pretty good from the 20 and 40 rolls, but the 55 barely pulled at all. I'm assuming he started in 3rd? As I said his car is quick, but judging by the vids and considering you're stock (?) I don't think it's a 107-108mph car. Definitely quick though. And good job getting vids!
I second this. It's definitely a quick little car, more than enough to make my S2K look silly, but it doesn't look like it's a 107-108mph car. Maybe swapping your diff. will help things out. . Boosting it on the other hand... Oh boy . lol

Paperboy your car's running pretty well for a stock Type-S. Nice car man.

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I definitely think a K-pro'd and fully bolted on 05/06 RSX type-S could pull your E30 as it sits right now. Not trying to start beef or anything, just sayin.

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Originally Posted by D's Up
I second this. It's definitely a quick little car, more than enough to make my S2K look silly, but it doesn't look like it's a 107-108mph car. Maybe swapping your diff. will help things out. . Boosting it on the other hand... Oh boy . lol

Paperboy your car's running pretty well for a stock Type-S. Nice car man.

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I definitely think a K-pro'd and fully bolted on 05/06 RSX type-S could pull your E30 as it sits right now. Not trying to start beef or anything, just sayin.
Well let's settle this then, because Paperboy has a friend with a bolted on, tuned Civic Si 06+, and that's pretty much the exact same thing but it actually has LSD.
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Si is a bit heavier and slower. Not all tunes are equal either. The blue RSX is a bit quicker than most. Prob a 103.x to 104.x car.

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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedAP1
All I have is an intake and exhaust + tune. Imagine if I had headers, cams, Euro air flow sensor... 260-270 whp all motor. Plus my car weighs far less. You can believe you'll win all you want, but that doesn't make it true.

I'll be running Paperboy again, probably tonight if he wants, but with just us in the car, no passengers.
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Well let's settle this then, because Paperboy has a friend with a bolted on, tuned Civic Si 06+, and that's pretty much the exact same thing but it actually has LSD.
Originally Posted by Sonnick
Si is a bit heavier and slower. Not all tunes are equal either.
I agree with Sonnick in saying that the Si is a bit heavier and slower and that not all tunes are equal BUT(!) hell, run that Si anyways and let us know the results with a video again if possible. If anything it'll be another good run for the forums.

Props to you for getting out there and driving your car hard btw. It's nice to come back to this forum after so long and see that this section has found some new life and that some of the guys I remember *sonnick and his absurdly strong 6MT accord* are still around.

K I'm done thread jacking now

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I didn't see that this guy was auto. I think you should race a 6 speed base or type-s to get a real feel, auto's are slow type-s or not.
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Nice vids! That E30 is quick....I agree with some of the above posters and say high 13's. Too bad you and Paperboy are so far away...I'd do some runs with you guys and I know BostonSilverTypeS would run too
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
I didn't see that this guy was auto. I think you should race a 6 speed base or type-s to get a real feel, auto's are slow type-s or not.
TL 6-speed is slower than this E30. They are fast up top thanks to the amazing aerodynamics and good powerband, but E30 will still pull it hard. Not even my bolt-on TL was as fast as the E30.
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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedAP1
All I have is an intake and exhaust + tune. Imagine if I had headers, cams, Euro air flow sensor... 260-270 whp all motor. Plus my car weighs far less. You can believe you'll win all you want, but that doesn't make it true.

I'll be running Paperboy again, probably tonight if he wants, but with just us in the car, no passengers.
Imagine IF I had cams, built K24, etc.......we can go on and on

point is, I asked you for a few friendly runs, you came off like a pompous jackass and acted as if you were too good to run, then you barely pull a mostly stock/auto TL..............sorry if I find some humor in this.

I pulled a 6SPD TL with more mods worse than you pulled this Auto/barely modded TL, so it's pretty safe to say you would lose. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Originally Posted by Sonnick
Si is a bit heavier and slower. Not all tunes are equal either. The blue RSX is a bit quicker than most. Prob a 103.x to 104.x car.
Ya, he's not me, so no point.

I'm not vouching for anyone else's car except my own. Especially someone across the country that I don't even know.

Like I said, it's too bad you're not on the East Coast. I don't t hink that E30 would give me any issues.
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Originally Posted by Yonkersracing
Imagine IF I had cams, built K24, etc.......we can go on and on

point is, I asked you for a few friendly runs, you came off like a pompous jackass and acted as if you were too good to run, then you barely pull a mostly stock/auto TL..............sorry if I find some humor in this.

I pulled a 6SPD TL with more mods worse than you pulled this Auto/barely modded TL, so it's pretty safe to say you would lose. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
You know what's really funny? I live 3000 miles away. In California. Think about it. It's pretty safe to say I'd rape you from a dig with a proper launch and without 38 psi in my tires, and we'll see how it goes if I can get Paperboy's friend with the tuned Si to go from a dig.

And I guess once I'm supercharged you can remember those times when you told yourself that you could keep up.

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Originally Posted by Franchise1124
Nice vids! That E30 is quick....I agree with some of the above posters and say high 13's. Too bad you and Paperboy are so far away...I'd do some runs with you guys and I know BostonSilverTypeS would run too
I'd like to run with you guys too. If you're ever in SoCal...

Originally Posted by D's Up
I agree with Sonnick in saying that the Si is a bit heavier and slower and that not all tunes are equal BUT(!) hell, run that Si anyways and let us know the results with a video again if possible. If anything it'll be another good run for the forums.

Props to you for getting out there and driving your car hard btw. It's nice to come back to this forum after so long and see that this section has found some new life and that some of the guys I remember *sonnick and his absurdly strong 6MT accord* are still around.

K I'm done thread jacking now
The 2nd day I had my E30 I took it to the local road racing track. I would love to see any RSX-S try to keep up out there in a REAL racing situation.
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I'm ~130 lb, my friend was ~180 lb. My transmission did slip before on the 2-3 shift, but I have gotten it rebuilt last august and it's been running perfect since.
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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedAP1
You know what's really funny? I live 3000 miles away. In California. Think about it. It's pretty safe to say I'd rape you from a dig with a proper launch and without 38 psi in my tires, and we'll see how it goes if I can get Paperboy's friend with the tuned Si to go from a dig.

And I guess once I'm supercharged you can remember those times when you told yourself that you could keep up.
Ya and when my K is boosted running 10's you can remember those times you thought your little supercharged E30 was fast...........lame.

You might take me from a dig, but I am more than confident I would take you out from a 40 roll, that car barely pulled an auto TL....no offense Paperboy.
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So much smack talk for 2 mid - high 13 second cars 3000 miles apart, it makes me laugh.

DisgustipatedAP1, if you're ever down in San Diego I wouldn't mind giving you a few runs

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Ya and when my K is boosted running 10's you can remember those times you thought your little supercharged E30 was fast...........lame.

You might take me from a dig, but I am more than confident I would take you out from a 40 roll, that car barely pulled an auto TL....no offense Paperboy.
That's nice. A boosted K running 10's is worthless on the street or on a track (you know, REAL racing with corners + turning) and it'll cost so much money and time that you could've bought a better car and had 10's anyways. Hell, I'll be running 11's on just 10-12 psi of boost on an SC. Good luck with your boosted FWD 10 second car.

Originally Posted by TylerT
So much smack talk for 2 mid - high 13 second cars 3000 miles apart, it makes me laugh.

DisgustipatedAP1, if you're ever down in San Diego I wouldn't mind giving you a few runs
Yeah I know. Yonkers takes this whole Internet racing thing very seriously.

Hey Tyler, I'm totally down. Shoot me your cell # and next time I'm in SD we can meet up.

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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedAP1
That's nice. A boosted K running 10's is worthless on the street or on a track (you know, REAL racing with corners + turning) and it'll cost so much money and time that you could've bought a better car and had 10's anyways. Hell, I'll be running 11's on just 10-12 psi of boost on an SC. Good luck with your boosted FWD 10 second car.



Yeah I know. Yonkers takes this whole Internet racing thing very seriously.

Hey Tyler, I'm totally down. Shoot me your cell # and next time I'm in SD we can meet up.
My comment was sarcasm, I could careless about future mods, everyone has what they are going to do in the future, who cares...anyone can say they are going to do this and that in the future. Until it's done, nobody really cares and you aren't impressing anyone...there will ALWAYS be someone faster. Not to mention K's are going 10's on stock motors w/ a turbo kit, so please do your research before spouting off non-sense, the platform is quite well. Please name another NA 4 cylinder that runs in the 13s w/ basic bolt ons and a tune besides an S2000....

Really, that's funny I asked you for FRIENDLY pulls in another thread and your reply was basically along the lines of me not being worth your time. You then post a video of you barely pulling an Auto TL, which had me LOLing. I'm sorry if I find a bit of humor in the fact that you are completely overrating your car without any numbers to go by and are telling people they don't stand a chance against you when you have no clue what you run or what the car you are talking about runs.

The main point I'm getting at, is that your car isn't as fast as you think it is and to talk down to someone who would beat you is pretty funny to me, that's all.

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Originally Posted by TylerT
So much smack talk for 2 mid - high 13 second cars 3000 miles apart, it makes me laugh.

DisgustipatedAP1, if you're ever down in San Diego I wouldn't mind giving you a few runs
I'm only talking smack because I asked the dude for a friendly run and this was his response........

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=33

So yeah, the fact that he can barely pull an auto TL w/ minimal mods is amusing to me considering all the claims he has with no proof.

At least I have real numbers and videos of my kills. This guy is just talkin out his a$$, imo

You also won't run 11's w/ a S/C @ 10-11psi, there was a S/C E36 M3 that put down 415whp and wasn't an 11 second car so keep dreaming.

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I can't edit my posts for whatever reason or else I would have consolidated to 1 post there instead of 3.
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Originally Posted by Yonkersracing
I'm only talking smack because I asked the dude for a friendly run and this was his response........

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=33

So yeah, the fact that he can barely pull an auto TL w/ minimal mods is amusing to me considering all the claims he has with no proof.

At least I have real numbers and videos of my kills. This guy is just talkin out his a$$, imo

You also won't run 11's w/ a S/C @ 10-11psi, there was a S/C E36 M3 that put down 415whp and wasn't an 11 second car so keep dreaming.
Yet an E30 is not an E36, in case you haven't noticed. E36's weigh a good 500-600 lbs or more. And ONE S/C E36 M3 didn't run 11's... guess why? Traction. I'm sure he had the trap speed for 11's. Your anecdotal horse-crap isn't relevant, really.

And barely pull? I walked Paperboy's TL non-stop for the entire race.

Why don't you just buzz off? You're one butt-hurt little guy and your posts reek of bitterness and resentment. Grow up. You're furthering the stereotype of the douchebag, crybaby RSX driver.
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Originally Posted by Yonkersracing
My comment was sarcasm, I could careless about future mods, everyone has what they are going to do in the future, who cares...anyone can say they are going to do this and that in the future. Until it's done, nobody really cares and you aren't impressing anyone...there will ALWAYS be someone faster. Not to mention K's are going 10's on stock motors w/ a turbo kit, so please do your research before spouting off non-sense, the platform is quite well. Please name another NA 4 cylinder that runs in the 13s w/ basic bolt ons and a tune besides an S2000....

Really, that's funny I asked you for FRIENDLY pulls in another thread and your reply was basically along the lines of me not being worth your time. You then post a video of you barely pulling an Auto TL, which had me LOLing. I'm sorry if I find a bit of humor in the fact that you are completely overrating your car without any numbers to go by and are telling people they don't stand a chance against you when you have no clue what you run or what the car you are talking about runs.

The main point I'm getting at, is that your car isn't as fast as you think it is and to talk down to someone who would beat you is pretty funny to me, that's all.
I realize that you missed the irony of you asking for 'friendly pulls' from a guy who is 3000 miles away from you on the opposite coast of America, so I'll just let you keep crying about that I didn't accept your offer.

And beat me? You can't beat me from a dig. You have to have full boltons etc to even have a chance against my car which just has intake, exhaust, and a tune. Your car would get the utter shit beat out of it on a road course, mauled on a drag strip, yet you keep trying to brag about your roll racing? That's about all an RSX is good from, really. I would know, I used to have one.

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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedAP1
I realize that you missed the irony of you asking for 'friendly pulls' from a guy who is 3000 miles away from you on the opposite coast of America, so I'll just let you keep crying about that I didn't accept your offer.

And beat me? You can't beat me from a dig. You have to have full boltons etc to even have a chance against my car which just has intake, exhaust, and a tune. Your car would get the utter shit beat out of it on a road course, mauled on a drag strip, yet you keep trying to brag about your roll racing? That's about all an RSX is good from, really. I would know, I used to have one.
Who's crying? LOL, I asked you for the pulls before I knew where you were located....lol

You don't know I can't beat you from a dig, that's pure speculation, I was giving up the dig run considering you are RWD, as well as (going off your fabricated numbers and exaggerated kill stories) but judging by your pull on an barely modded Auto TL, I don't even know if you would beat me from a dig. My "full bolt ons" consist of nothing more than the same mods on your e30 intake/exhaust/tune....lol. Starting with the excuses already I see

Yet, I am not here bragging about anything, I have videos to back up my claims and post them for the most part because people enjoy watching videos rather than reading some made up internet story. You are the one coming on here talking about pulling 7-8 cars in 20 mph and then can't even pull 2 cars on a mostly stock Auto TL....again, no offense Paperboy. We just wanted to see some videos of your claims, and for the most part Sonnick was smack dab on the money about you.


Really you just don't have a clue about the K20, your E30 is a high 13s-low 14s car @ maybe 100-102 traps yet you talk about it as though it is some mid 12 second monster trapping close to 110. Stop playing yourself. Talk all the shit you want about my RSX it's my daily driver, gets 30+ mpg, makes over 100whp per liter, NA, has a full black leather interior with a 6 CD changer and a sub....and lastly, I must have 100 runs on my channel and my car hasn't had any major issues....reliability > *

Is your E30 your daily driver?

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Old 06-04-2012, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedAP1
Yet an E30 is not an E36, in case you haven't noticed. E36's weigh a good 500-600 lbs or more. And ONE S/C E36 M3 didn't run 11's... guess why? Traction. I'm sure he had the trap speed for 11's. Your anecdotal horse-crap isn't relevant, really.

And barely pull? I walked Paperboy's TL non-stop for the entire race.

Why don't you just buzz off? You're one butt-hurt little guy and your posts reek of bitterness and resentment. Grow up. You're furthering the stereotype of the douchebag, crybaby RSX driver.
An E36 M3 also makes more power than your E30, point is, just because you have seen it done in a magazine, which I'm sure you have because you seem like a mag racer, doesn't mean it's always going to happen. My buddes Turbo E30 w/ an HX35 would be lucky to run 11s unless he is on a slick and he will be the first to admit that.

You pulled 3 cars from the 20 roll. You creeped maybe half a car from the 55 roll. Pulled 3-4 on the 40 and lost the dig run, SMH. You realize you were likely racing a high 14 second car that traps 95-97mph, right?

Like I said...I put more on a 6SPD TL with more mods....don't come off like a pompous prick when people ask you for friendly runs and don't give it out if you can't take it in return. You want me to go away now because you're getting exposed and your car really isn't as fast as you say it is. Sonnick was onnnnn point.

lol @ losing a dig run to a car you can easily beat yet trash talk about how bad you'd beat me from a dig, lol class.

You're giving BMW owners a bad name, no need to be condescending.
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Originally Posted by TylerT

DisgustipatedAP1, if you're ever down in San Diego I wouldn't mind giving you a few runs
I second this. If you're ever down in our are make sure you hit us up. We'll try and get it on film for everyone on the forums too.
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