Majofo

polobunny

The cleaning? You'd think so. Except if you take 10 years of carbon deposit and burnt stuff and knock it all in your engine, cats and whatnot, it's not super.
I know people with boats that had to fix their motors when ethanol gas started.

Franchise1124

Hello all

Just spent some time catching up on this thread - congrats on the new rides, Gary and Brake

Jamie's 08 TL

I know of one place to get ethanol free gas. I think I may fill her up and see how she likes it.

polobunny

Butt dyno says ethanol free is slightly more performance oriented, throttle response seems a bit better, but considering we only have up to 10% ethanol here it's not night and day. Butt dyno can perceive the difference from 91 to 93 better after half a tank.

The only reason I treat myself to an ethanol free tank every once in a while is because I got a station not too far that carries it and sometimes the price is similar to other stations for 91.

TacoBello

I only run ethanol free gas. I don't trust that stuff one bit- I'm not sure who decided it was a good idea to start putting ethanol into gas, as it seems it has more drawbacks than anything else. I always fill up with 91, which here is ethanol free at every station. Some stations offer 94, but then it's mixed with 10% ethanol. No thanks.

polobunny

The laws for ethanol in gas is all over the place in Canada because it is provincial laws.
Ethanol isn't bad, really it's pretty good. Burns cleaner than conventional gas and it keeps everything it comes in contact with really clean. It doesn't impede the flammability of gas that much, so it has plenty of upsides. It's also cheaper than gas if I'm not mistaken and isn't made of dinosaurs meaning it's more future proof.
Downside is that it burns at a lower heat (same as comparing 87 to 91, 87 burns easier) thus you can't really use it under as much compression as conventional fossil fuel. And also you can't put high concentrations of ethanol in a car without modification.

GKinColo08TL

Semi retired...I still do some trim carpentry on occasion. I have a friend that owns a couple of fourplexes and I do a lot of his maintenance work for him. That's what I was doing this morning, one of his tenants had there door kicked in so I repaired the frame...f*** it is cold out there. (That last comment wasn't meant for you Canadiens.)

Would if I could, Colorado law requires ethanol in the gas...a minimum of 10% in the winter.

No where to get it here...

Ethanol is added to gas here for emissions reasons...it burns way cleaner than dyno, but octane suffers because it isn't as efficient. We have a shit ton of stations selling E85 here...right now about fitty cents a gallon more that regular unleaded but everyone I know that has used it says your mpgs go down about 25%-35% when using it.

rockstar143

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We don't have too many ethanol free stations here...

polobunny

Not so bad today actually, 3F. Supposed to dip to -20F during the night though.

polobunny

tell me the difference between a-spec and base side skirts plz thanks!

GKinColo08TL

14F here, with a 10 mph wind, and snow. It was 60F and sunny yesterday here, I hit balls at the driving range. Forecast for 55F tomorrow and 24F on Friday, 47F Saturday...freakin rollercoaster!

polobunny

Well hey 14F isn't too warm either. I'd want to see rockstar or maj in these temps!

rockstar143

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I think it's the height of the curve on the front/rear...to match where the aspec comes to on the bumper.

Best I can do.
https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...thread-853331/

GKinColo08TL

I don't see much difference in the side skirts but I think J is correct, has to do with "flow".

polobunny

Thank you good friend. The difference are definitely there when you have similar angles. The A-Spec lip protudes outside while the normal side skirt is straight down.

rockstar143

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I honestly never paid much attention but I know a lot of people got away with only doing the front/rear.


you're welcome, bud.

GKinColo08TL

For sure I can see it now...I guess I never paid attention, the two TLs I saw regularly, mine and my son's bout had the kits...

polobunny

Yeah I was contemplating going A-Spec. Love the look of the front, back I'm alright with (neutral) and also neutral with the side skirts. Problem is, it's a bunch of money to drop at once with the other mods I got planned and I'm due for summer wheels + tires already but the A-spec kit is starting to get rare as hell... Was just wondering if I could go front/back and not sides if I only had access to an incomplete kit for some reason.

GKinColo08TL

You could for sure...might be able to pick up parts of the kit at a salvage yard too, the 3G TLs are getting up there in age and more likely to be totaled in an accident, some of those might have parts of the kit undamaged.

Yumcha

Back from -ing.


How's the salad in here?

GKinColo08TL

It costs $34.50...steep.

polobunny

That's something I've heard you guys say over and over. I went to the biggest salvage yard in Quebec and they had 0 3G TL. Absolutely 0. Went to another near my brother, also no TL. Third one? 0 TL.

We have very good frame master workers in Quebec, I see a lot of US VGA getting sent here and then rebuilt, so I imagine that's why the junkyard TLs are impossible to find here.

justnspace

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rockstar143

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I would not wait too long...if Bruce still sells the entire kit for $750 shipped (or something like that)...I would fkng jump on it ASAP.

TacoBello

Wow are you wrong on many points. Read up, son.

It's more expensive to produce, it requires a shit ton of farm land, thereby reducing crops for food- not a problem here, but in a world that's half starving, it's not the best idea, it actually burns hotter and not colder like you suggested, it does put out less energy than gasoline, thereby reducing efficiency, it's bad for plastic, aluminum (apparently), etc, causing them to corrode or disintegrate faster, etc, etc.

I tried copying a few paragraphs from a couple sources, but my iPad is being no compliant for some reason.

polobunny

'cept I ain't made of money! Got to drop some money on wheels, summer tires, Nexus 7 in dash, buff the car with rotary (I have no rotary, so $200) to get it to a decent state.

Cheapest wheels I could put would be around $750 for a 4 set probably, and tires cheapest around $190 per tire. Nexus 7 I can prob find nice one for $150 (then I'll need everything to make it work...). So I'm looking at more than $2000 of shit to buy before summer comes.

$750+shipping is cheap for what it is but it adds up pretty quickly to the other things.

TacoBello

LOL this reminded me of a funny story- a guy I went to high school with bought a 3G TL and was bragging to everyone on what a wicked price he got on such a wicked car. Well, for some reason I think he tried getting extended warranty or something (this is going back many years now), and he was denied.

WHY?! He asked. Well, because the TL he bought was actually a salvage car and was actually made from Two TLs, with the bodies being welded together somewhere in the middle, LOL. Front end was from one car, the back end was from another!!

That's what happens when a) a deal sounds too good to be true, and b) you don't even bother checking the VIN or doing your homework with regards to why it's such a good deal. He ended up crying about it in the newspaper and how he was out over 20k, lol.

rockstar143

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Aspec kit...in limited supply...or buff the paint...or buy new wheels...or upgrade the entertainment in the car.

rockstar143

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I know the original owner of mine...

polobunny

My bad about the price. I was under the impression it was cheaper to produce. Nevertheless it is renewable unlike fossil fuels. I was also wrong about the ethanol temperature, hence why the higher pressure is needed. Thanks for the corrections!

I never said it puts out more energy than gas?

It is bad for certain types of plastic (not all). Never said otherwise. Take into consideration we were discussing ~10% ethanol fuel, I have absolutely 0 experience with E85.

Still, it burns cleaner than petroleum, and you guys can act all cool about burning fossil fuels but I'd like to be able to offer clean water to my grandchildren.

Majofo

Majofo

You guys have spent too much time in the TLX board.. Don't bring that stupid in here. Thanks.

polobunny

Freaking welding 2 clipped cars must be insane. Can you imagine fucking up with the fitment of EVERYTHING in the car? Kudos to the guy who went through the trouble hahaha. Def check the VIN, a car report is so cheap it's a stupid thing not to when you're spending anything over $1K on a car. My TL was in New Brunswick (or Nova Scotia, can't recall from the top of my head) then Quebec to the guy I bought it from. Person who had it before him was an old guy, so yay about that.
I could ignore the N7 install for now. The scratches and swirls freaking annoy me though, but I imagine I could also ignore this for now.
I'm on the 17 stockies and my summer tires are absolutely shot. Heck, I threw them out so I have no choice there. If I'm going to buy new tires, I'll probably go to 18 because I think it looks nice and not too riced up. Either way, I need tires and ideally wheels for summer. Ignoring the paint (ugh!) and the N7 I save less than $500 haha.

Still tempted though, you monster!

polobunny

Yeah ethanol's a bit gay we know, in the GREAT BIG TEXAS no such thing exist.

'MURICA, FUCK YEAH!

TacoBello

Oh, I was just throwing in extra reasons why it's evil. Clean water is fine, but at the cost of food supply, lol. But here's the real drawback to your comment- it may burn cleaner but it's less efficient, so by the end you're burning more fuel- that's not exactly cleaning anything. Out of curiousity, I was just reading a bit more into the stuff and they claim that E85 isn't as bad as E10. I'm guessing it's because the E85 systems are setup to run ethanol better, where Engines running E10 are not.

Either way... Just ignore Marge... He just needs a hug once in awhile, with a bit if salad on top.

Majofo

PB is now the official dumb one in here.. J can celebrate.

polobunny

Probably true about E10 vs E85. Either way, I think the biggest gripe people have with it is because they don't have a choice. Humans are creatures of habits. Boohoo my gas, fuck progress amirite?

It's just a curb, it's not entirely his fault. I'll gladly take his title if it means you'll be salad tossing me daily.

Majofo

Dumb one tosses the others.. bottom of the totem pole. :pb:

rockstar143

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my tongue was getting tired!