jjwink

OK, I have a dumb question, but searching for the answer is difficult.

I am looking at used TL's. I like the 2007/2008 TL-S but it's pricey. I noticed that if I just want a V6-6 Seday, the 2005's and 2006's are MUCH cheaper.

Here's the question. The HP spec for the 2005 is HIGHER?

Same RPM, same compression, same bore x stroke. What am I missing? Did they make a change that helps low end torque? Or did they do something in 2006 due to emissions that reduced power?

justnspace

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no, the testing was changed.

04-06 auto's put down about 210 to the wheels.
04-06 6MT's put down about 220-30 to the front wheels.

07-08 base auto = about 210whp
07-08 tl-s auto = about 220-230whp.

I'm not sure how much power the TL-S 6MT puts down but its more than 230.

jjwink

Sorry, been drinking and put wrong title.

2005 versus 2006. The 2007 and 2008 TLS are a 3.5 Litre, totally different engine.

2005 and 2006 are same dimensional specs on a 3.2 but HP and Tq are different. So the question is about them. Apologies to all.

jjwink

OK, been drinking. I realize the TLS is a 3.5L. Sorry, i'm stupid.

OK, the question is about the 2005 versus 2006. Apologies to all, this is all my fault.

I don't remember that happening, but basically between 2005 and 2006 everything in reality is the same? Just test numbers? Seems like a pretty big difference.

ggesq

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https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/sae-new-horsepower-rating-system-3g-garage-a083-589568/

From the 3G Service Department.

jjwink

That's perfect, thanks.

So if I get an old 05 or 06 I am still getting the same stuff. Cool.

cpm06wdptl

Hope you didn't have to get up early for work today. Remember if you want a 6MT then you will have to get an 04-06 cause they're not available in 07-08

ggesq

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fixed.

cpm06wdptl

^^True story. Thanks. I just assumed the op wanted a base model because he said the type s was too pricey.

jjwink

Would love a Type-S, but I am not sure they are worth the money. They are pretty rare and when someone has one, they list for well over KBB.
I can get a 2006 TL 6MT for like 18K, but a 2007 Type-S 6MT is more like 26K or 27K either with around 35k-40k MILES. Having a hard time justifying 7 or 8 thousand dollars differencs for one year newer with betters springs and swaybars.

And nope, not working this week, vacationing in UP Michigan.

friesm2000

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not quite.....


engine wise, basically yes

as far as other features... NO, such as TPMS, and seperate fog lights iirc

justnspace

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I have a 06 6MT and I love it.

ggesq

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Um yeah, there's more than just that.....

The fogs in the lower grills were introduced in MY 07. The 06 still had the fogs integrated in the headlight housing.

friesm2000

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got a 2g , so was not totally sure , but either way there where a couple of additional features on the newer cars though

aIRpeACE

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i love my 05

ggesq

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You are correct about the TPMS. There was also a torque steer management system put in place for the 06.

jjwink

Many prefer no TPMS and consider not having it a feature. I have a tire pressure gauge and know how to use it. If you live somewhere that it's beneficial to have a winter set of wheels and tires it's better not to have TPMS unless it's auto-learning, but I don't think Acura's is? Else you end up with a flashing indicator on your dash that lets you know you are running your winter setup. Unless you have a friend that has the scan and program tool.

friesm2000

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i would just buy it myself for work

Vishnu

So far as i know apart from performance the 07-08 TLs also have the auxiliary input for mp3 players, and the opt backup camera and some cosmetic changes like taillights and the grille size/bumper so I think those are some things to keep in mind. Aux in 04-06 can cost upwards of 150 (USA spec makes one specifically for Acura/Honda) and that backup camera is of course pretty useful. I assume performance will be nearly identical Acura wouldn't have made a mid cycle refresh with a drastic performance change (except for the Type S)

jjwink

Thanks all. I appreciate all the info.

I find out, hopefully tomorrow, if I need to start shopping for another car.

If I do, I will try for a TL-s (stronger engine, better suspension) but if they keep going for 27K I think I will save the bucks and grab a low mileage 06 that comes up for sale.

friesm2000

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not that expensive to upgrade the suspension, to exceed the performance of the type-s (a good spring/shock setup would probably do)

but now the engine, yeah.... that's not going to come exactly cheap...., so better normally to start with a stronger engine

paperboy42190

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and sway bars!