2004-07 Supercharged TL vs. 2005 Cadillac CTS-V (who's it gonna be?)
05-09-2011, 11:23 PM
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2004-07 Supercharged TL vs. 2005 Cadillac CTS-V (who's it gonna be?)
Looking for some runs with a supercharged TL or TL-S from 2004 thru 2007 local races track or in Mexico... I've been wanting this for a long time and for everyone that knows me knows I LOVE the TL! If I lose than atleast I will have a BIG ass smile on my face... lol
05-09-2011, 11:38 PM
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^no, but are the SC TL's even fast!?
I dont know to much about them but without a proper tune, they're only extracting 60hp from it. or so i've read.
at bset they're probably making a little under 300whp......?
a fully bolted on tl-s is right at 300whp.
or so i've read.
I dont know to much about them but without a proper tune, they're only extracting 60hp from it. or so i've read.
at bset they're probably making a little under 300whp......?
a fully bolted on tl-s is right at 300whp.
or so i've read.
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05-09-2011, 11:39 PM
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Are supercharged TL's fast?
05-09-2011, 11:49 PM
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Yeah, but thought that you guys can push up the boost to 8# or 9# now and get more power? I would LOVE to run some Turbo TL'S in the area but I think I've only heard of them in your neck of the woods...
^no, but are the SC TL's even fast!?
I dont know to much about them but without a proper tune, they're only extracting 60hp from it. or so i've read.
at bset they're probably making a little under 300whp......?
a fully bolted on tl-s is right at 300whp.
or so i've read.
I dont know to much about them but without a proper tune, they're only extracting 60hp from it. or so i've read.
at bset they're probably making a little under 300whp......?
a fully bolted on tl-s is right at 300whp.
or so i've read.
05-10-2011, 12:02 AM
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Even with a good tune, I don't think an SC'd TL gets more than 350 or so HP. Opel, I think is getting somewhere in the 350 range .... maybe 400 (??); he's supercharged, isn't he?
(checked - his signature says 375 HP).
(Edit: this says 385 with SC and meth injeciton: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/new-dyno-run-gone-bad-736249/)
CTS-V pulls 550-ish stock. Plus loads of torque and RWD.
(checked - his signature says 375 HP).
(Edit: this says 385 with SC and meth injeciton: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/new-dyno-run-gone-bad-736249/)
CTS-V pulls 550-ish stock. Plus loads of torque and RWD.
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05-10-2011, 12:40 AM
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CTS-V is about 4225 pounds and 556 SAE rated HP, 55x torque. So, 7.6 lbs/HP.
TL MT is about 3500 lbs and Opel is 385 is at the wheels. So call it 385/.85 ~= 450 rated HP. That's 7.7 lbs/HP.
I don't see how the FWD TL can hook up that much power effectively though.
Fastest drag time posted is a 13.1 @ 107 for a TL. Stock CTS-V's are running 12.3's @ ~115+.
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...e=10&carmake=7
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05-10-2011, 12:54 AM
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Oops. Strike that, I quoted CTS-V specs for 2011.
For a 2005 it's 400 HP and 395 Tq @ ~3850 pounds.
Drag Times posted time shows it might be very close. ~13.1 - 13.4 @ ~105 - 109.
For a 2005 it's 400 HP and 395 Tq @ ~3850 pounds.
Drag Times posted time shows it might be very close. ~13.1 - 13.4 @ ~105 - 109.
05-10-2011, 02:51 AM
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i believe that someone out there knows how to tune these cars. after all, a guy on did put a j35a8(tl-s motor) in his 7th gen accord coupe. making about 350whp N/A, but im sure hes done plenty of internal motor work. hes located in orange county, ca
05-10-2011, 09:35 AM
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Yup, I'm only 400hp with 395tq and even though the lbs is qouted at 3750 its really closer to 3800 to 4000lbs... what is the weight of a TL? It would be a badass race if they are 320+whp... the CTS-V in stock form only puts down between 333 to 345whp and runs like shit from a dig.. I'm wanting as many dig runs as possible.. roll races I'm a pro at and don't really see the challenge in that.. do we have anyone with some nice power in my area that owns 04 thru 07? If so than please shoot them a message,text,email letting them know... like I said, I'm down for drag strip or Mexico... lol only thing is win or lose I wanna go for a ride in it! Lol
05-10-2011, 03:53 PM
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No, but I've come close... 550I tried playing with me but I had my young son in the car and just let him go... and tried playing with a 4.2 V8 S4 that was speeding on the highway a few months back but he slowed down and wouldn't bite...
But I would love too....
But I would love too....
05-10-2011, 07:06 PM
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One of the members who owns a 6MT supercharged TL pulled away from both those cars. I thought if you raced either one of those cars we'd have a better guess at how this race would turn out.
05-10-2011, 09:19 PM
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05-11-2011, 09:52 AM
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Hahaha... that's what id be sayin if someone steps up to the mound...
05-11-2011, 10:03 AM
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05-11-2011, 05:36 PM
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05-12-2011, 08:37 AM
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Are you on LS1tech? If not then check it out bro... they also have a pretty cool kills section that gets new kills added almost everyday... even a few CTS-V kills every so often.. here is the link to the V section... I'm "adanieljohnson1" over there...
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/cadill...-2004-2010-68/
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/cadill...-2004-2010-68/