dhwang329

Hey Guys Sorry if I doubleposted. I am new to the forum and posted this under Frequently Asked Questions and it said it will post it but I did not see it listed under threads so I am remaking the post here... Apologize if this is double post once again....

I recently bought a 06 TL 5AT. I normally refill my gas when I get near the bottom line on the gas meter. (Usually around 1/8th of the meter is remaining) I noticed that everytime I fill my tank up it does not go over 11 gallons. Sometimes a little over 11 but not by that much... I checked in the manual and it says the gas tank should hold 17.1 gallons or so. I am just confused on why the car only accepts 11 gallons.. I heard that when the yellow light comes on that I still have about 2 gallons or so in another thread but doing the math that still would equal to 13 gallons, maybe 14 gallons at most. Anyone else experiencing this or can enlighten me on why this is happening?

My gas mileage in general does not feel like what it advertises also so it is getting to the point that its concerning me. I use to own a 2001 V6 Accord prior to the TL and I understand that its a slightly smaller engine on the Accord but the gas mileage is extremely different between the two because my Acura eats up gas like crazy. I know the driving habits reflect on the mileages and I drive usually at a rate of constant 60mph. Any ideas? It also seems my Accord takes more gas in when I fill it up than my Acura as well.. I get about 13-14 gallons of gas in on my Accord while my Acura barely takes in 11. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance guys!

dhwang329

Also I am well aware the car has a reservation of 2-3 gallons of gas after it hits the E sign but where is my other 3-4 gallons? lol

I read the other threads regarding this and understand now how things work but it still baffles me that when I am close to the E and My car only takes 11 gallons + 2-3 gallons on reserver = 13-14 gallons of gas.. where is the rest of my gas to total 17 gallon tank? I understand from reading the other forums but I still feel that I am not convinced since I am still missing a few gallons. Thanks for any replies guys!

mr_clean

go ask the stealership for an explanation if you're not convinced from what all the other threads are saying about this..

ncinirator

Before this thread gets locked I would like to add that; I drove my car on empty until the range said 15 miles left to 0.

I stopped and filled up, it took 13.96 gallons. This means that I had 3.14 gallons left in the tank. I am getting 24 mpg so far, and I dont know when the motor is 'broken in' by, but I have 3400 miles on the car, I drive mostly highway back and forth to work.

Hopefully the MPG will improve as the engine gets some more milage on it, and BTW- I am not going over 65 mph.

Bearcat94

You're confused because you're doing it wrong.

Run the car until the "Range" on the trip computer says 0. (This will be ~25 - 30 miles AFTER the low fuel warning light comes on).

Now go fill up.

You'll get somewhere around 14 gallons in. Add the 3 gallon "reserve" and voila, 17 gallon capacity.

korrupted

Maybe you need a tune up.
The temperature is also a factor. If you intially filled up when it's 30 deg., then you fill up when again it's 80 deg, you'll prob get less gas into the tank because of expansion/contraction.
Today my Range was 0 for a good 10 miles, I filled up 14.25 gal. 3 gallon reserve.
What is your MPG? I get between 17-21.

ncinirator

My low fuel light indicator comes very early, this last time it started alarming when the range claimed I had 25 miles left to 0.

Dividing how many miles I have driven by how many gallons of gas I put in gives me my MPG, right; 320 miles divided by 13.0 gallons is 24 mpg. Right

ggesq

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dh-welcome to the forums. Look at the thread posted below and in that thread there are links to the 3G Garage which deal directly with your question.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=tank+reserve

dhwang329

thanks for all the fast responses guys. My mpg was very weird at first as well.. I was getting anywhere from 13mpg - 22mpg. I do alot of mixed driving. Maybe a tune is needed but it just bugged me out since I fill in more gas on my Accord than my Acura. To me that was very odd. Ever since then I have always reseted my Trip COmputer and the mileage has slowly started climbiing up to normal. Then out of nowhere it stayed constantly at 16mpg. I have gone over 10k miles just recently too.

I hear from all the other threads that alot of people averaging over 20mpg but I hardly get that. I try to drive at a constant speed after refilling and reseting the trip computer but the most I get is usually 17mpg. It varies alot and at first it confused me but now its to the point where I am getting use to it. lol Either way thanks for the advise guys.

Oh and Mr. CLean.. I actually vowed I would never go back to the dealership around me because they are scam artists.. They screwed me over so badly that i am actually scarred to going into another dealership again. not really but you get my point haha.

Go type in Paragon Acura in Google and see what comes up.. something I should have done before stepping in there. haha. THanks again everyone!

dhwang329

ggesq,

thanks dude for the link and welcome!! =)

Ron A

Welcome to the forums. I deleted the two threads you posted in the FAQ Forum. Please click here to read the announcement at the top of the FAQ Forum for more information.

Here's a short explanation for those seemingly missing 3 gallons.

This info is excerpted from a very long thread I started about fuel tank capacities, etc. and is based on actual and precise testing.

a. When the low fuel warning light comes on, if you are getting 25 mpg you can go 94 miles, but if you are only getting 20 mpg, you can only go 74 miles. Of course, other miles per gallon figures will result in different results. This means you have approximately 3.7 gallons remaining.

b. When “miles to empty” (2004TL) or “range” (2005TL) reads zero, that is time to fill up, but you can still go 57 miles at 25mpg, but only 45 miles at 20mpg. This means you have approximately 2.3 gallons remaining.

c. When filling the tank, if you stop at the first shutoff, you will have about 17 gallons in the tank.

d. The tank will actually hold about 19 gallons, but it is not recommended to fill the tank to capacity, so stop at the first shutoff.

If you want to read the whole thread, click here. and if that's not enough information for you, here's another thread you can read.

ncinirator

What about 07 TL?

Ron A

I'm sure it's the same through 08, but I guess I'll have to retire this information when the 09's come out unless I can get one to test.

Ron A

I just checked the parts list and the fuel tank is the same for 04-07, so the info should still be good, unless they changed "range" to something else.

bw5011

i can speak from experience on this one. You do have a 17.1 gallon tank.. i use to do the samething and only be able to get between 11 and 12.5 gallons. So one day i decided to push it to the limit. I left work with 15 miles to empty. I live 16 miles away.. I got nervous with 3 miles to go but i missed the exit to before my house to get gas. To make a long story i was at zero and car was starting to loss power and i make a panic stop as almost past the gas station and filled up.. I put in 16.9 gallons.


O remember to pump your gas slow..When you pump your gas fast the air forms a pocket in the tank.

Bearcat94

Isn't that EXACTLY what I said happens?



It's *totally* normal.

jayo_o

is there a "Range" on the trip computer on the 08 TL's? I haven't been able to find it. only thing the trip computer shows me is the distance, mpg, average mph and time driven.

Bearcat94

Yes. It's on "page 2".

Go to the MID page you mention with Distance, MPG, Avg MPH and Time Driven.

Now, press the "down arrow button" on the right lower side of the steering wheel.

Voila, page 2 of the Trip Computer with "Range".

ncinirator

huh, yessss. I just read it differently.

dhwang329

i am going to try that over the break.. I will push my car to the limit and then fill up and see the difference. Thanks guy!

nfnsquared

I've taken my tank ('04MT) down to "0" miles remaining many times and I always put in 14 gallons (plus/minus 0.2 gallons) (first cut off). I still get nervous even though I know there's plenty of gas left.

stillhere153

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Ok I forgot to tell you guys wat happend to me for driving bellow the E line, so I am on the highway and I approach my exit (which is conveniently 3 blocks away from the gas station)

I say eh I will get gas when I go to jersey in an hour... well well well gas in nyc was $350 a gallon for 93 octane in jersey it is $315

guess what happens as I approach the exit, the music is on, navi screen working, but there is a little red battery icon under the rmp gauge... YES FOLKS, the tank was DRY

moral of the story, don't risk it, I had to walk 3 blocks in the rain and get a fuckin gallon of gas and walk back 3 more soggy blocks

LMFAO just thought I'd share... don't do it to yourself, once it is on the E line fill up not worth the hassle

conveniently I will tell you guys this much, I drove 100 miles after the initial Fuel Low indicator

korrupted

Well what did you expect to happen. You're lucky you got 100 miles after the indicator came on. There's a reason it comes on when you get to your 3 gallon reserve; It's telling you to GO GET GAS!!!

stillhere153

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bro cmon I was honestly curious to see just how much it would last... and that was 100 city miles (I live in manhattan)... tell you wat I got friggin wet... and um last time my uncle got a flat on the west side highway he found out that acura roadside assistance isn't allowed on the FDR or West Side Highway... (pretty much in manhattan they aren't allowed on any highway lol)

korrupted

LOL, that's just crazy, I would never want to run out of gas.
There's no place to stop on the FDR or the WSH, that's prob why they aren't allowed on them, it's way too dangerous.
Where do you park your car?
I use to live in the city, no way I would have parked my current car on the streets.

Was that you that i did a fly-by on Delancy?

stillhere153

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I park infront of my house, but um nah I ran out of gas like 10 feet away from my exit so I was able to roll in and pull it over to the shoulder... it was actually embarassing to have a 40k car run out of gas...

as for the fly by, doubt it was me for 2 reasons, 1 I don't think I would've let you fly by me and 2 I've never seen an mrp tls on the streets, I've actually only seen one, it was parked next to my car when I took delivery back in april

korrupted

That is why there is an indicator in the car, so you can get gas before you run out of gas. If you wanted to know how far you could go, just take your mpg and multiply by 17.1

I finally saw another MRP TL-S on Ocean Pkway Saturday. That guy must have been saying to himself "So that's what my car looks like when I fly by someone"

ggesq

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I filled up my tank this AM w/ 3 miles to empty and filled up 14.2 gallons.

korrupted

how do you know it's 3 miles till empty, do you mean the Range said 3 miles?
Sounds right then, 3 gal reserve.

ggesq

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shooter

Hmm... I passed the point of the range reading is zero and some a few times ... still only in 15 gallons terriotory ... so 17 or even 16 gallons is still unreachable for me so far (and I would like to keep it that way) ....

Bearcat94

The low fuel light/warning comes on with approx 4 Gallons left.

At ~25 miles on RANGE, the warning comes on. You have ~ 1 gallon before 0 Range.

At 0 miles on RANGE, you can put ~14 gallons in.

17 gal capacity - 14 gal refill = 3 gallons RESERVE at 0 RANGE

1 Gal from the light/warning to 0 Range + 3 Gal reserve at 0 Range = 4 Gallons when the light/warning comes on

Light comes on = 80 - 100 miles before you start walking (assuming 20 - 25 mpg); just ask stillhere153 :wink: .

kenny5

Why do you even want to try to push it to the limit? It is almost like trying to jump off the bridge to see if you can survive the fall

ncinirator

Dont you want to know how for you can go after 'E', just in case an emergency arises and you have to do just that.

Plus, it seems smarter to fill up when you reach a half tank or quarter tank, but the way the price of gas is going, and that we run our cars on supreme, people try and squeeze the last drop out of the tank. It seems like gas goes up every week.

I'm doing it to see what my mpg's are, and charting the best way to drive to work & save gas, since there are a few different ways for me to take.

dhwang329

kenny5 if you read my Original Post above you would know why I want to push my limit on the car. Its not like i want to do it for the heck of it. I am trying to test and see for myself what the limit is. that was the whole purpose of this thread so that way I can educate myself firsthand on how it works. Much similar to what ncinirator was saying above this post. oh and gas prices here in nyc is getting ridiculous. lol thanks guys!

korrupted

You think NYC prices are ridiculous, try Europe

Nation City Price in USD Regular/Gallon
Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48
Norway Oslo $6.27
Italy Milan $5.96
Denmark Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium Brussels $5.91
Sweden Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom London $5.79
Germany Frankfurt $5.57
France Paris $5.54
Portugal Lisbon $5.35
Hungary Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia Zagreb $4.81
Ireland Dublin $4.78
Switzerland Geneva $4.74
Spain Madrid $4.55
Japan Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic Prague $4.19
Romania Bucharest $4.09
Andorra $4.08
Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52

kenny5

Ncinator and dhwang, what kind of "emergency" are you talking about? Is it like getting chased by the police and you need to keep driving until you use up the last drop of gas remaining in the tank? Or is it like when you have diarrhea and you need quick relief? In that case, you should pull up to the nearest gas station, use its facility, and fill up your tank too! LOL

ncinirator

Does it matter what kind. Lets say you are running late, but dont have time to stop for gas when the 'E' light comes on.

Lets say your stuck in traffic on 'E', well since you know what the car will do you wont shit your pants worrying about it.

Thats all that come to mind . I hope I don't experience and emergency that has me running on empty.

JROCKACURA

I just purchased an 05 TL Nav today (black on camel)! The dealer told me the 2005 does not provide the information like "miles to empty" or "average gas mileage" as part of the trip computer. Is this true? I couldn't find it during my test drive, but it is something I was expecting on the TL.

Bearcat94

It's there. Dealer's

Check my post on page 1 of this thread or check Page 73 of your Owners Manual.

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/...505O00073A.pdf