05 AT TL vs 06 MT Mazdaspeed6
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05 AT TL vs 06 MT Mazdaspeed6
So on the way back from lunch today, I got to race a work buddy that has an 06 Mazdaspeed6. He just got new rims (~17.5 lbs ea), and we pulled up to a red light. I looked over, and he was ready for the race. I flip the tranny into manual mode, and open it up when the light turns green. Once we hit 60, I look over and see that I'm about 2 1/2 cars ahead of him.
I think the odds were heavily stacked in my favor. He had 2 passengers, and I had 0. When we got back to work, he said the A/C was on, and he didn't WOT. I did have the windows down and the sunroof open.
Question for you guys: With all things equal (no a/c, windows up, no passengers), WOT, both stock (except for his rims), who do you think would win the race?
I think the odds were heavily stacked in my favor. He had 2 passengers, and I had 0. When we got back to work, he said the A/C was on, and he didn't WOT. I did have the windows down and the sunroof open.
Question for you guys: With all things equal (no a/c, windows up, no passengers), WOT, both stock (except for his rims), who do you think would win the race?
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Mazda 6 2.3L with 160HP and 155tq... vs 3.2 vTec with 270HP (2005 ) and 233? tq?
i think youda beat him. I can beat a 07 G6 6spd at a rolling 20... but off the line im done for......
i think even if he didnt have his AC/passengers, you still woulda won... but thats just my - im not a gear head so idk everything about the 2 of these cars.
i got my info from:
http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/ma...ons/index.html
i think youda beat him. I can beat a 07 G6 6spd at a rolling 20... but off the line im done for......
i think even if he didnt have his AC/passengers, you still woulda won... but thats just my - im not a gear head so idk everything about the 2 of these cars.
i got my info from:
http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/ma...ons/index.html
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Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
Mazda 6 2.3L with 160HP and 155tq... vs 3.2 vTec with 270HP (2005 ) and 233? tq?
i think youda beat him. I can beat a 07 G6 6spd at a rolling 20... but off the line im done for......
i think even if he didnt have his AC/passengers, you still woulda won... but thats just my - im not a gear head so idk everything about the 2 of these cars.
i got my info from:
http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/ma...ons/index.html
i think youda beat him. I can beat a 07 G6 6spd at a rolling 20... but off the line im done for......
i think even if he didnt have his AC/passengers, you still woulda won... but thats just my - im not a gear head so idk everything about the 2 of these cars.
i got my info from:
http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/ma...ons/index.html
Is Speed 6 not regular Mazda 6, the Speed6 have 4WD I4 2.3 single turbo 270bhp and 280tq.
but even he got no passnager and A/C off you still pull him at least 1~1.5 car,the car is too heavy and the turbo lag is crazy im pretty sure a stock TL can kill Speed 6(stright line).
FYI
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=MS6
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thanks for clearing that up for me... i can be a newb sometimes lol
dang, go figure lol i think i finally know something and i try to help and i get even more confused LOL
dang, go figure lol i think i finally know something and i try to help and i get even more confused LOL
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Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
thanks for clearing that up for me... i can be a newb sometimes lol
dang, go figure lol i think i finally know something and i try to help and i get even more confused LOL
dang, go figure lol i think i finally know something and i try to help and i get even more confused LOL
FYI the regular Mazda 6(M6 ) have two motor one is I4 and other one is V6 with 200ish hp 6AT that car is pretty nice but the suspension is soft as hell.
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i read a while back before we bought our TL about the Mazdaspeed6 coming out...it looked pretty cool, but i found the TL much more appealing...i've been eager to race one now and guess i don't have to worry when i get my chance...
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Originally Posted by KenUA6
Is Speed 6 not regular Mazda 6, the Speed6 have 4WD I4 2.3 single turbo 270bhp and 280tq.
but even he got no passnager and A/C off you still pull him at least 1~1.5 car,the car is too heavy and the turbo lag is crazy im pretty sure a stock TL can kill Speed 6(stright line).
FYI
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=MS6
but even he got no passnager and A/C off you still pull him at least 1~1.5 car,the car is too heavy and the turbo lag is crazy im pretty sure a stock TL can kill Speed 6(stright line).
FYI
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=MS6
6: 280hp/260tq, 3589lbs
TL: 258hp/233tq, ~3650lbs (I have navi + aspec lip kit)
On paper, the Speed6 should win. Plus he's got a MT and I have AT. What makes you say there's crazy turbo lag on the Speed6? Rumor? Driven one before? etc
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A properly-driven Mazdaspeed 6 MT should spank most 3rd Gen TLs, manual or auto, unless the TL is FI'd. Check out the timeslips posted in dragtimes.com at http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda--6-Drag-Racing.html
It lists stock Mazdaspeed 6's running mid-to-high 13's. I haven't seen any non-FI'd TLs run times below 14 seconds.
It lists stock Mazdaspeed 6's running mid-to-high 13's. I haven't seen any non-FI'd TLs run times below 14 seconds.
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Judging by his trap speed you would beat him from a 2nd gear launch, their top end is weak if he pulled a 13.5 at 99mph.
Here is some numbers from R&T:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf
Judging by his trap speed you would beat him from a 2nd gear launch, their top end is weak if he pulled a 13.5 at 99mph.
Here is some numbers from R&T:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf
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The Speed6 should make quick work of any stock 3G TL’s---Auto or Manual.
The only stock TL that would have a chance would be a TypeS.
These cars are awd and launch very hard and have 280 ft/lbs of torque at only 3000 rpm.
The Road and Track article had a disclaimer on the Speed6 acceleration data because they used 91 octane gas and the car did not make full boost.
Car and Driver---5.4 - 0-60, 14.0 - ¼ Mile
The only stock TL that would have a chance would be a TypeS.
These cars are awd and launch very hard and have 280 ft/lbs of torque at only 3000 rpm.
The Road and Track article had a disclaimer on the Speed6 acceleration data because they used 91 octane gas and the car did not make full boost.
Car and Driver---5.4 - 0-60, 14.0 - ¼ Mile
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Originally Posted by NumberFive
Based on the site you linked, here's what I'm seeing:
6: 280hp/260tq, 3589lbs
TL: 258hp/233tq, ~3650lbs (I have navi + aspec lip kit)
On paper, the Speed6 should win. Plus he's got a MT and I have AT. What makes you say there's crazy turbo lag on the Speed6? Rumor? Driven one before? etc
6: 280hp/260tq, 3589lbs
TL: 258hp/233tq, ~3650lbs (I have navi + aspec lip kit)
On paper, the Speed6 should win. Plus he's got a MT and I have AT. What makes you say there's crazy turbo lag on the Speed6? Rumor? Driven one before? etc
IMO I dont think 2more passenger + A/C on I dont think it will make 2.5 car different.
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