05 AT TL vs 06 Charger R/T
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05 AT TL vs 06 Charger R/T
Well now, last night my buddy calls me up and asks to go for a ride in his overnight loaner Charger R/T (he is seriously thinking of buying one) so we do, then after a bit of nudging on his part I decide to bring out my TL and we go for a little "drive".
I was pretty sure I was going to see nothing but his tail lights on this drive. Well I'm not sure where the 340hp is going in those R/T's but I had no problems keeping up, overtaking, and passing the Charger on the highway, pulling by 1/2 to 1 car lengths on rolling starts (starting at 15-20kph to about 120-160kph) and eventhough it was pretty close basically being the faster car all night.
At the end of our ride my buddy even rolled down his window and I quote "man that is one fast car now, I had mine pinned how about you?", with a look of disgust on his face. He was pretty pissed that he didn't tromp all over my TL.
Now I'm sure that once his Charger is broken in and he learns to drive it properly things will be a bit closer but for last night I could not have been happier and more satisfied with my TL's performance.
I am sure it would have been quite a sight to see my FWD spinning and his rear wheels spinning out on some of the starts.
All in all good fun safe fun.
I was pretty sure I was going to see nothing but his tail lights on this drive. Well I'm not sure where the 340hp is going in those R/T's but I had no problems keeping up, overtaking, and passing the Charger on the highway, pulling by 1/2 to 1 car lengths on rolling starts (starting at 15-20kph to about 120-160kph) and eventhough it was pretty close basically being the faster car all night.
At the end of our ride my buddy even rolled down his window and I quote "man that is one fast car now, I had mine pinned how about you?", with a look of disgust on his face. He was pretty pissed that he didn't tromp all over my TL.
Now I'm sure that once his Charger is broken in and he learns to drive it properly things will be a bit closer but for last night I could not have been happier and more satisfied with my TL's performance.
I am sure it would have been quite a sight to see my FWD spinning and his rear wheels spinning out on some of the starts.
All in all good fun safe fun.
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dude i usto own a srt8 magnum and a buddy of mines had charger r/t. No offense but the charger should of whooped u up. Im not saying it did but it should of.... Nice kill and run by the way
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yeah the str8 are one thing, but the R/T's stock, no problem. Especially since all these bling-blingers are rollin' in 20's / dubs. Charger is heavy from what I recall. Plus they only come in automatics (i'm not sure about the str8's)......
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my friend has a charger and i wanan run against him on the highway...i got aem intake, e-shift cats, and teis suspension. i rode in his car and there seems to be a shit load of torque...he doesnt even have to step on the pedal to feel it pushing u back. but i guess the acceleration just isnt there for some reason.
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i currently drive a 1st gen TL, and i decided to test drive an SRT8... that bitch has quite a bit more power than my car, and im pretty sure i should have done much better than what you make it seem unless he was driving a base Charger which is a pretty lame car
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Originally Posted by Devastation
i currently drive a 1st gen TL, and i decided to test drive an SRT8... that bitch has quite a bit more power than my car, and im pretty sure i should have done much better than what you make it seem unless he was driving a base Charger which is a pretty lame car
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Nice runs with your friend. It does seem though that either they put 87 octane in that Charger R/T or it wasn't broken in properly because they do run low 14's at 100MPH. They are faster than the 300C hemi because they have a free flowing exhaust and I believe its a 100lbs lighter or so. They should take a TL like yours although not kill it.
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Are you sure it wasn't the base Charger? Because sorry dude, a R/T would eat u for lunch. And forget about it if you're thinking about messing w/ a SRT8.
Besides, places only have the base Chargers as loaners. Now I'm pretty sure it was the base.
Besides, places only have the base Chargers as loaners. Now I'm pretty sure it was the base.
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Originally Posted by TriniBwoy
Are you sure it wasn't the base Charger? Because sorry dude, a R/T would eat u for lunch. And forget about it if you're thinking about messing w/ a SRT8.
Besides, places only have the base Chargers as loaners. Now I'm pretty sure it was the base.
Besides, places only have the base Chargers as loaners. Now I'm pretty sure it was the base.
TriniBwoy is right. I have a 3g TL with AEM intake and Comptech exhaust. My friend has a bone stock Charger R/T and he takes me every time. He probably didn't have the car in sport shift mode. Cuz when I raced my friend when he wasn't in sport shift mode I beat him by a little bit because it takes a second for the car to downshift. But when he was in sport shift mode he takes me easily every time.
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i dunno if yalls cars are slow or sumthn but a fully modded 3rd gen Tl and 2nd gen TLS should kill charger RT's...srt8 is a diff story but charger rts are slow...a base charger which has a 3.5 V6 is slow as hell and could get smoked by a civic...ive fried plenty of RTs and can keep it somewhat closewith an srt8 from a roll not a dig...american cars are diff from japanese ones...
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i dunno if yalls cars are slow or sumthn but a fully modded 3rd gen Tl and 2nd gen TLS should kill charger RT's...srt8 is a diff story but charger rts are slow...a base charger which has a 3.5 V6 is slow as hell and could get smoked by a civic...ive fried plenty of RTs and can keep it somewhat closewith an srt8 from a roll not a dig...american cars are diff from japanese ones...
2005 Acura TL Auto (stock)
3.2L V6
258hp
233lb-ft torque
weight: 3557lbs
Charger R/T (stock)
5.7L V8
340hp
390lb-ft torque
weight: 4100lbs
Now you want to explain to me how in the hell an 5AT TL, far less a 2nd gen TL-S which is slower than a base 3rd gen 5AT TL, could beat a R/T? Maybe I should ask you what do you mean exactly by fully modded?
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ok i have intake headers exhaust and pulleys and i can kill a charger...wit that i am probably pushin sumwhere over 300 to the crank...if a charger weighs 600 more lbs than my car and im pushin almost the same amount of HP to the crank as him then it would b a close race...now since vtec is far more superior than most american cars...from a roll i already have the upper hand due to my engine...from a dig it maybe a closer race seeing as though the charger is rwd but i still come out on top everytime...a stock charger (with a pro driver) runs 14.0-14.1 at ruffly 100mph in teh 1/4 mile...my car runs that on a bad day...i can run a 13.9 wit good traction & a cool day...if the 3rd gen TL is a 6mt it has a even better advantage over the stock charger rt...those things are so heavy it takes them at least 2 or 3 seconds for them to get going and by that time i am already gone...now throw some headers and an intake on that RT and then its a diff story but no way a stcok rt is messin wit any 3rd gen TL or 2nd gen TLS/CLs with Intake and headers...just because something has alot of HP and TQ doesnt mean its fast...just means it has a strong engine, the dynamics of the vehicle plays a very important role in the way it moves. and unfortunately for the Charger RT its HP & TQ get raped by its dynamics...that is why they have a Charger SRT8 for ppl who actually wana go fast
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Originally Posted by L's TL
and the 2nd gen TLS is the same speed as a 3rd gen TL
-I was at the track 2 days ago or so and I saw a 300 R/T? I was surprised that it ran 14.3.. i was a bit surprised.. didn't know they were thsi fast.
As for you saying that you ran a 14.0-14.1, do you have a time slip to back that up? many people on here,i noticed talks a lot... THey never even put their car to the strip and they be making up #'s.. hopefully you can back your statement up, otherwise ..
My 3rd gen w/ AEM CAI ran a 15.060@95mph.... So i am not sure how the 2ng GENTL-S can run a 14.1
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hmm..but the thing is...you can easily use photoshop to make time slips, very easy to do....and doesn't take much time too....videos, especially ones with professional drivers, are much better proof. And according to C&D (which is usually not optimistic) has done 14.8 in a 2nd gen tl-s. Now a modded 2nd gen getting 14.1 might be a stretch, but beating a RT from a roll is believable.
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Originally Posted by L's TL
ok i have intake headers exhaust and pulleys and i can kill a charger...wit that i am probably pushin sumwhere over 300 to the crank...if a charger weighs 600 more lbs than my car and im pushin almost the same amount of HP to the crank as him then it would b a close race...now since vtec is far more superior than most american cars...from a roll i already have the upper hand due to my engine...from a dig it maybe a closer race seeing as though the charger is rwd but i still come out on top everytime...a stock charger (with a pro driver) runs 14.0-14.1 at ruffly 100mph in teh 1/4 mile...my car runs that on a bad day...i can run a 13.9 wit good traction & a cool day...if the 3rd gen TL is a 6mt it has a even better advantage over the stock charger rt...those things are so heavy it takes them at least 2 or 3 seconds for them to get going and by that time i am already gone...now throw some headers and an intake on that RT and then its a diff story but no way a stcok rt is messin wit any 3rd gen TL or 2nd gen TLS/CLs with Intake and headers...just because something has alot of HP and TQ doesnt mean its fast...just means it has a strong engine, the dynamics of the vehicle plays a very important role in the way it moves. and unfortunately for the Charger RT its HP & TQ get raped by its dynamics...that is why they have a Charger SRT8 for ppl who actually wana go fast
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i understand ppl say alot wit no proof and half the shit on here i see i dnt believe..but wen sumone says they beat a stock rt magnum,charger,300C i believe it cuz ive dun it and so has my boy wit a CLS(Gregory_20706)...but on a 100 degree day i was runnin consistant 14.4s and 14.5s at 99.***mph...i was at the track wit babyacura, cls6speednupe, and trini-2-de-bone at capitol raceway in crofton..they r on the CL side u can ask them if u like...the other time it was 58 degreees outside and thats wen i ran a my low 14s...i havent tuned my unichip yet so im sure that should help with at least a tenth of a second..noone form thsi forum was with me but im sure wen the temp drops it will happen again & i guess ill have to video tape it for everyone to see...& if anyone knows of a charger rt willing to get raped on video in the DC area let me know ill gladly take him to school about 3.2 Vtec...and the race would b off teh line i dont need a roll to fry that heavy ass car..
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don't worry buddy like i've said i believe you for beating 300c, charger RT and magnum RT, I just don't see why it's not possible since most cars here are modded and are making 300+hp at the crank while being 500 lbs lighter.
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