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Old 09-18-2003, 08:19 AM
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'04 postponed?

My uncle is a general car salesman. He works for a leasing company and has access too all makes and models. Anyhow he really dislikes acura...yah me and him always argue over this...anyhow, he claims that acura is postponing the release of the '04's because they can't sell the '03's....is he right with this statement?

my argument was they had some engineering problems and wanted to perfect the car b4 it's released?

who's right?
Old 09-18-2003, 09:12 AM
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his reasoning is wrong. The 6MT may be delayed to some dealers because of what sounds like a supply issue (my guess being brembo), but otherwise everything looks to be on track.
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The "delay" has to do with that nasty little blackout (it really goofed things up for everyone in the manufacturing business) AND brembo from what the Acura grapevine has been saying.
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My source from the TL plant in Ohio said it wasn't black-out related.
Old 09-18-2003, 03:09 PM
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whatever I figured that he was talking out of his ass. Our uncle is not very fond of our family right now because he believes all family should purchase cars from him. History in many cases has proven that you should never mix business with family, and the bottom line is he never moves his ass to get the deal completed. We did once buy a 1996 Ford Windstar from him, not only did he not mention that the car had been in a huge accident, but he delivered our Demo with a massive dent on the driver door, which had to be paid for by us because the leasing company believed it was at fault of us.

I would never buy from him again, and he only made his statement regarding the '04's because he's pissed that we didn't buy our '03 a-spec from him.

thanks for the replies guys.
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I have a 6MT on order and I have received no word regarding a delay from my dealer. He expects it to be here between 10/10 and 10/17. If I did get word this late in the game I'd be pissed.
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What's the big deal?

I don't quite understand the point here. I'm sure that it will make it difficult to sell 03's once the 04's are on the lot. But Acura Mfg is not going to delay the release just because dealers have old inventory. Also, if it's delayed due to a problem, wouldn't you rather Acura fix the problem instead of rushing to get them on the lot? (Unlike my '01 CL-S)

I too am waiting for one, but I'm not going to complain if mine is not here on the 10-06 like I have been told. Complaining to my dealer won't get it here any faster (or cheaper).

I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes here, but I wouldn't let your uncle bother you.

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Old 09-19-2003, 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by VTECMW
I have a 6MT on order and I have received no word regarding a delay from my dealer. He expects it to be here between 10/10 and 10/17. If I did get word this late in the game I'd be pissed.
When I spoke to my dealer a week ago, he confirmed that the 6MTs are delayed about a month, nationwide. He said it was a problem with the Brembos, like someone else said earlier. I'm sorry to say it, but you should probably call your dealer and find out. All dealers should have received an email from Acura explaining the problem.
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Re: What's the big deal?

Originally posted by Sundance CL-S
I too am waiting for one, but I'm not going to complain if mine is not here on the 10-06 like I have been told. Complaining to my dealer won't get it here any faster (or cheaper).

No, I wouldn't have a problem with a delay. Hey, keep my car at the factory to get the problems corrected.

My issue would be with my dealer telling me that my car is being built and to expect it by a certain date, only to turn around and tell me it's delayed a month.

Either way, I'm not going to stress it. I'll be very happy when it gets here, however.
Old 09-19-2003, 02:53 PM
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6 speed issues

Thanks for the info on the manual. However, my transmission will be an auto. A few years ago I'd probably gone with the manual, but I've enjoyed not having to shift. Plus, my CL-S Sportshift is pretty responsive from 2nd to 5th gear. By the way, it’s for sale.

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Old 09-19-2003, 06:23 PM
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Re: 6 speed issues

Originally posted by Sundance CL-S
Thanks for the info on the manual. However, my transmission will be an auto. A few years ago I'd probably gone with the manual, but I've enjoyed not having to shift. Plus, my CL-S Sportshift is pretty responsive from 2nd to 5th gear. By the way, it’s for sale.

Chris
How many miles? Color? Navi?
Old 09-20-2003, 08:08 AM
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Thanks for asking. Here's the basics:

2001 CL-S w/ Navigation and spoiler; Sundance Gold; 25,000 miles; original owner since July 2000.

Blue Book is $22,000. I really don't know what to ask yet. But I can't get the TL until this sells.

Chirs
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yea from other sources on other sites the manual version is going to be delayed about a month to the dealers
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I just found this website far an Oakland CA dealer advertising the "First Showing of the 2004 TL" on October 22, 2003.
This doesn't bode well for an October 6th release. I have a deposit down for a '6 October' delivery for an AT, no Navi.

http://www.oaklandacura.com/tllaunch.htm
Old 09-23-2003, 01:31 AM
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This launch is probably one of those new car introduction parties. Usually lite bites and Acura reps abound. They have had this for each of their new arrivals over the past few years. The car is hitting the streets on 10/06!
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To All:

Automatic Transmission TL's are not delayed in any way. I already have 6 built and assigned to me. They are due the first week of next Month in anticipation of the release on the 6th.

The 6-Speeds will enter production 30 days late and begin arriving in November.

Jamie S.
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Does anyone know the VIN pattern (first few characters of it) for any of the new TLs?
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I found out from my dealer today that 6MT production has been delayed a month. I shouldn't expect my car to arrive until some time in early November.

It would have been great for them to tell me earlier. Oh well, no stress.
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cschaul:

Here's all but the last six digits (production number) of a WY/PA I had built a couple of days ago:

19UUA66224A

Hope it helps.

Jamie S.
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Originally posted by jamiestockman
cschaul:

Here's all but the last six digits (production number) of a WY/PA I had built a couple of days ago:

19UUA66224A

Hope it helps.

Jamie S.
You work at the factory or something? :wow:
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Wink Cars on the way!

I saw my dealer last night, and he will have a car for test driving on Sept. 28, and expects to have my car by Oct. 15 or sooner(don't they always say "or sooner." This is Acura Carland in Duluth, GA. He also gave me a brochure, but has no pricing info.
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Originally posted by Sundance CL-S
Thanks for asking. Here's the basics:

2001 CL-S w/ Navigation and spoiler; Sundance Gold; 25,000 miles; original owner since July 2000.

Blue Book is $22,000. I really don't know what to ask yet. But I can't get the TL until this sells.

Chirs
Wow, Sundance Gold. Honestly I really like that color on the CL. If I could get by with a coupe again (can't with a baby on the way) and you were in Cali I'd probably say I was interested. You'll have to find someone who likes the color. I think with that color it's a love it or hate it kinda deal. You do have low milage though, I'd private party it and just sit on it.
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Hi Everyone,

I spoke to my salesman today (Regal Acura, Lakeland) and he told me that the new TL would not be available for sale until the launch date of 10/22. Apparantly the 10/6 date has been moved back until every dealer is assured of a vehicle to show. I'm assuming this is a nationwide thing as I received an invitation specifing 10/22 as the official unveiling. This doesn't mean they won't be on the lots sooner (10/6?) just not for sale. Has anyone else officially heard any different from their dealers? BTW, he told me he has 6 coming in with 4 already sold.
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Sundance Gold: Some have called it ugly (or worse). Some say it’s cool. I describe it as unique. Acura only built about 2000 before they realized it wouldn’t attract their typical customer. I agree, but I’m not typical.

The low 25,000 miles comes from putting 45,000 miles on our MDX in the same period.

I love my CL-S, but I too need (want) a 4-door. And since I don’t want to give up performance, the ’04 TL is probably my best option.
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2004 TL:

I don't work at the factory. I'm the e-Business Manager for an Acura, BMW, Porsche store in Chapel Hill NC. The first batch of TL's have been built for a while. Acura should be moving them to the local ports to coordinate the release. Most decent sized store will have plenty coming in the Month of October. I already have 8 Premium and two Navigation models built and in transit.

Jamie S.
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How about 6 speeds w/navi Jamie? Will these still arrive at the biggest dealers by November?

thanks,

Gotta have mine by year end or else!
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Gary:

Six-Speeds, navi or not, will enter production in the second allocation (November Production). Depending on where you're at in the Country, you should expect to see Six-Speed models showing up after the 8th of November or so. The exact dates for November production won't be know for about a week.

Hope it helps.

Jamie S.
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