F23A4

Honorable mention of the J30A5:

Ward's

As an 07 AV6 owner, I do love the J30A5's smoothness and its midrange (not to mention fuel economy). However, the Accord's 3,400lb heft does a pretty good job of mitigating its meager 211lb-ft.

It is official:

01clsstock

nice kill sick!!! I havent raced any maxima's with mods but i did crap on an 04 3.5 se altima auto..... i am talking 3-4 cars before i shut it down.

Hi speed

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I agree, I am calling BS on the 12 second maxima too. Why are you bagging about maximas on this site anyway? 12 seconds is real fast, like 400-500 HP fast. Anyway good luck with the nissan and remenber this is a Acura TL Forum.

laidback93

I was going to say... I was pretty sure the J-Series had appeared on the list as well.


Although I'm sure Honda Tuning is very biased, they were quoted as saying the J32A2 should be considered one of Honda's masterpieces. So many tuners love this engine and borrow parts from them.

iforyou

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^ I think I saw that too at .

Come on Honda..bring us a new DOHC i-VTEC DI V6!

Dave_B

Nope. Guys that are spraying 75-120 shots in VQ35 Maximas are deep into the low 12s with autos.

Dave_B

Don't believe it if you wish. It's the truth though. I can think of 6 NA Maximas in the 12s right now. Go to Maxima.org and look over the 1/4 mile section.

iforyou

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It's not too surprising guys, just look at dirtyjohn's TL-P, and he only had nos, he was running 12's if not faster.

tommy020

I also thought that its bullshit about 12s, but checked the web.
Maximas vq35 for some reasons are sick fast with all bolt ons, faster than a g35 with equal mods. many achieved low13 easily in modded 5.5 gen, just sick. respect

EL19

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good point..he was runnin mid to high twelves in a TLP

S1CK TypeS

now just think, i have all the bolt ons he had plus a 100 shot and i have a type s. i should be running low 12s once the nitrous is installed. i cant wait for the P2R manifold to come out thats another 10whp

tommy020

you right, ur mods and 100 shot nitrous puts you in 12s, but your auto tranny will probably crap out.Dont forget our trannies are POS.

S1CK TypeS

6spd is in the near future

iforyou

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haha yea, you probably wanna do a 6spd swap first or strengthen your transmission first. Honda isn't good at making autos.

clborden

The P2R manifold, is this for the 2nd gen TL only? Or 3rd gen too?

abuckfifd

Nope no spray, and there not many bolt ons for the car that produce big gains. Headers alone are 21whp. There are 3 all motors maxs without cams in the 12's, and 1 in the 12 with the old VQ30 motor. The fastest one ran a 12.4 @111mph. As far as 13's go, there are probably well over 30 from the VE30, VQ30, and VQ35 in the 13's now. How would i know??.. I'm one of them!

EL19

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^^^ its true that ish is fast!

01clsstock

yes you can make a maxima fast, and yes you can even make a geo metro fast if you put enough work into it, but at the end of the day its still a geo and its still a maxipad! Acura FTW

F23A4

^^Weak post FTL though.

iforyou

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lol...but that's the truth...look at all those 8 seconds civics and integras....

Monte TLS,MAX

And its still a TL..........

S1CK TypeS

as far as i know its still in the works for the 2nd gen TL/CL. its still in the testing phase

sbuswell

OKay, then my 99 4AT TL with I/H/E/P/S and few other small engine mods can run in the 13's too. That's crap. Unless your engine is built or somewhat built along with all the bolt-on's a killer tune with an emanage type setup there is no way in hell a NA Maxima will run in the 12's.

Let me run this past you. 03 Maxima 6 spd with I/H/E/P/S, hi-flow cat, iridium plugs, short shifter will not run in the 12's. Maybe mid 13's with some killer tires, but not 12's.

EL19

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not to bash another fellow Acura ziner but abuckfifd is in my area and ive seen his car run. He has an 03 Maxima 6spd wit I/H/E and short shifter and ive seen it run low 13s. Ive seen him smash a GTO off the line. His car is pretty damn fast. He can drive pretty good as well. we had to bring out a Supercharger CLS6 to beat him lol. Ive never seen a NA Maxima run 12s but ive seen two in my area run really low 13s and they have basic bolt ons also nice ass tires. My 03TLS runs 13s BTW. I think a 4th gen max with the VQ35DE could run 12s easily given the lightweight body of it.

tommy020

sbus, pls go check maxima forums before making conclusions. You'll see many low 13s and few 12s maximas there. What you think they bullshit themselves on their own forums???I don't think so.
Always wanted to ask what other small engine mods u have, u always mention it, but never say what they are.

F23A4

12-second NA Maximas are not too common but, here is one 5.5G that has the goods: Timeslip .

But as sbuswell has noted, most seem to run solid 13s with boltons, good tires and some tuning. 12s tend to come with nitrous added to the boltons OR with a 4G/VQ35DE swap (per L's TL).

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abuckfifd

lol, this is funny! Let me list my mods. Intake, headers, catback w/ no cats, underdrive pulley , and a untuned afcII. I dont have a short through. Good tires you say!!!lol even funnier, ive been running on dry rotted dunlops for the past 2 years on 16" SSR's. Thats right street tires.
Best time to date 60' 2.20, 1/4 13.43 @106mph. Actually the video of the run was posted by Clsnupe, a fellow AZ member. When i dynoed last year i put 253whp 250wtq. There are guys on the org putting 270+ to the wheels, all-motor no internal work, just bolt-ons and tunning. Boosted ive heard as high as 550+ on the 3.0 motors. As far as me getting 12's, if your familiar with the dragracing equation if you knock a 10th off your 60', thats 2 10ths off your 1/4 time. So, i would only need to achieve a 1.9 60' to break 12's! I guess?!!

Dave_B

It's very true. The mods it took to do it were:

1) A quick track. The Rock is a very fast track.
2) Ported intake manifold, butterfly valves removed, ported TB
3) Headers, catback, UDP, ECU reflash, intake
4) 4.133 gear swap, 26" slicks
5) No backseat, passenger seat, spare tire

Race weight of the car is about 3,100lbs and last I heard the car was making 265whp/250wtq.

sbuswell

Now that I can believe, albeit if you're in the 12's it would be a high 12. What are you trapping BTW 108-110?

My small engine mods are a grounding kit, iridium plugs and TB coolant by pass.

iforyou

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Yea, seriously, 12s doesn't sound all that surprising,

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-CL-Timeslip-7259.html

Have a look, even a NA CL with J35, 5AT, 3400lbs, chip, intake, pulley, and headers can do 13.3. Once you add in 6MT, SS, spacers, exhaust, tuning, and a bit of weight reduction, it's not too surprising if you see a NA CL/TL doing 12's too. Remember 5AT alone would cause you a 0.5s penalty.

bigbadboss101

I had a 02 Maxima 6 speed before and have to say stock for stock the Maxima is faster. Low end torque is better. High end the vtec might pull better. Having said that, I like the TL's look better and am happy with my blue 03 TLS vs my old 02 Maxima SE 6speed.