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Old 04-29-2004, 09:39 AM
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0-60 5.7 secs...Is this enough for everyone?

I believe that was the published numbers for the 6 speed 0-60.
To me thats plenty fast...are all these guys who want more performance the automatic trans fellas? Just wondering...to me the car feels as fast as i will ever need it to go. I would think most people who buy these cars are late 20's and up and wouldnt really care to have the fastest car anymore...fast? sure. Just not the fastest.
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Published #s are notoriously----------->

Originally Posted by SilverJ
I believe that was the published numbers for the 6 speed 0-60.
To me thats plenty fast...are all these guys who want more performance the automatic trans fellas? Just wondering...to me the car feels as fast as i will ever need it to go. I would think most people who buy these cars are late 20's and up and wouldnt really care to have the fastest car anymore...fast? sure. Just not the fastest.
Wrong! My TT has a 0-60 of 5.7 (with mods) and the TL is not that quick. I'm guessing after my test drive that low 6's is more realistic. The TL is quick enough for what it is a 4 dr sports sedan. The FWD makes it "light" on it's feet. I think it's the best sports sedan for the money which is why I'll be getting one in 3 wks when my TT goes back. I could have gotten an S60R or many other more expensive sedans but the extra dough isn't worth the money based on the TL's performance and amenities/tech features. Doug :toothless
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Not fast enough for me!
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It's never fast enough

Especially when you consider that accelerating happens so often when driving.... increasing the HP (and more importantly, torque) is always appealing... the faster I can get to speed the better
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Adequate, YES.

Could stand improvement, 300 ft-lb torque, 300 HP, AWD, with Michelon Pilots mounted on 18s, comptech springs would be ideal.
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hmm

I dunno--my auto cls was supposedly 0-60 in 6.4 secs and this definitely feels faster than my cl. If I really thought about it if anything I would probably want more Torque if it could be had very cheaply..(less than 200)--
and didnt make the car sound "ghetto" or ricey..or increase torque steer.
Torque > Horsepower.
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Sure it's enough - but that won't stop me from tweaking on it a bit.
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ran the 1/4 mile last night and guess what i was not too happy with the results :yack:

but i still love the car no matter what it has been the best purchase i have made.
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Originally Posted by dv8ing
ran the 1/4 mile last night and guess what i was not too happy with the results :yack:

but i still love the car no matter what it has been the best purchase i have made.

COME ONE!!! Give us your numbers jerk!
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If you want the fastest 4-dr sedan with AWD for under $35K, then get a WRX STi........the TL is just a compromise....don't pretend to make it into something it's not.
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Originally Posted by flnsx
COME ONE!!! Give us your numbers jerk!
EASE UP BUDY I FORGOT :thefinger

1ST RUN - 16.6 TOP SPEED 84.599
2ND RUN - 16.4 TOP SPEED 84.999

BUT IT WAS PARTLY, WELL MOSTLY MY FAULT BAD REACTION TIME 1.01
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Originally Posted by bollywood21
Adequate, YES.

Could stand improvement, 300 ft-lb torque, 300 HP, AWD, with Michelon Pilots mounted on 18s, comptech springs would be ideal.
I agree. While I like the torque and overall quickness of my TL, I feel it could have more.

but then again, I don't think I've ever had a car where I said "gee, that's too much power"
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I believe that was the published numbers for the 6 speed 0-60.
To me thats plenty fast...are all these guys who want more performance the automatic trans fellas? Just wondering...to me the car feels as fast as i will ever need it to go. I would think most people who buy these cars are late 20's and up and wouldnt really care to have the fastest car anymore...fast? sure. Just not the fastest.
There is no such thing as fast enough.....
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Originally Posted by dv8ing
EASE UP BUDY I FORGOT :thefinger

1ST RUN - 16.6 TOP SPEED 84.599
2ND RUN - 16.4 TOP SPEED 84.999

BUT IT WAS PARTLY, WELL MOSTLY MY FAULT BAD REACTION TIME 1.01
I hate to break it to you, but reaction time shouldn't factor in to your 1/4 mile time. You can have a 5 second reaction time, but the slip is going to show what you ran from the moment you broke the starting beam.

Hey, Dougpt10, you aren't going to claim you can gauge .4 - .5 seconds of 0-60 based off of driving two different cars, are you? I have ridden in two cars which tied in a head-on race, only to swear that one was much faster by feel. I don't buy it if someone claims a car is a few tenths quicker without seeing it on paper. Sure, I'd believe you if we are talking about more than a second, but not the difference between 5.7 and "low 6's"
PS. was it a MT TL you drove, or an auto? Just curious.
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Ride a motorcycle and whatever else you ride is just something to get around in. It really puts things into prespective.
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Originally Posted by roadman
Ride a motorcycle and whatever else you ride is just something to get around in. It really puts things into prespective.
Done. I have a Honda CBR 954RR. I have run it at the strip at 11.1 @ 128 (which ain't saying much, as it is supposed to run 10.2 @135, but I'm afraid of the wheelies!). I still think my TL is fast. Cars can still "feel" fast even after riding bikes. It's just that when you floor a car for five seconds from 40mph, and you are used to sport bikes, you are amazed that you are only going, say 70(give or take). On a sport bike, if you floor it for 5 seconds at 40, you are doing well over 100. But the car still pulls you back in your seat, and "feels" fast.
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That 5.7 was for an A-SPEC model I believe..
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Originally Posted by achadha100
That 5.7 was for an A-SPEC model I believe..
Does that matter? I thought the A-spec dealt with non-engine components?
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Does that matter? I thought the A-spec dealt with non-engine components?
It launches much better.
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maybe a lil more
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DOUGPT10, that was a correct time. 0 -60 in5.7 sec. with the MT. Car and Driver.
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DougPT10, could you explain this quote from your earlier post? I had to laugh out loud when I read it!
"I could have gotten an S60R or many other more expensive sedans but ***the extra dough isn't worth the money***"
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Although I love my TL for what it is. I still think theres room for improvement. The 238 lbs. of torque is a little low. I would like to try and get at lease 330 hp, and 300 lbs of torque, out of my TL after all the mods I plan to make. Everyone says i should have got a WRX Sti if I wanted all the power. But an STi is not a TL. The sti and TL are two totaly different cars STi (rally Car) TL (Luxury sports sedan). I just want the perfect combo of power, performance, and luxury w/o having to spend 80k on a benz AMG, or a BMW M5.
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It's adequate for city driving, but for getting out there in the country and killing innocent animals, I prefer a little more speed. For really intense situations, like driving up Mount Everest or escaping Earth's gravity, the TL does seem a bit sluggish. In such cases I find Low gear better than the Sport Shift. Now, once you're out in wide open outer space, it doesn't really matter, because the tires just spin, spin, spin like crazy motherfuckers. Nothing to grab onto out there. Though the blue lights do look really cool.
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Originally Posted by roadman
Ride a motorcycle and whatever else you ride is just something to get around in. It really puts things into prespective.

EXACTLY! after taking my Honda NSR250 on the track all day, even my 360 hp '93 RX7 felt sluggish :toothless bottom line is the TL is a fun, comfortable, luxurious, sport sedan.
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WRX vs TL? thats a joke. wrx is an ugly rough riding crap wagon. you can have it. and the evo too. I will keep my tl and go fast enough with a civil comportment.
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Originally Posted by dv8ing
EASE UP BUDY I FORGOT :thefinger

1ST RUN - 16.6 TOP SPEED 84.599
2ND RUN - 16.4 TOP SPEED 84.999

BUT IT WAS PARTLY, WELL MOSTLY MY FAULT BAD REACTION TIME 1.01
those times are terriable and embarassing for this site!!! Did you floor it or were you driving like you do around town. Thats like a second slower than the 2nd generation TL-P....
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Originally Posted by Aegir
It launches much better.
Is the traction improved by the suspension?
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Ride a motorcycle and whatever else you ride is just something to get around in. It really puts things into prespective.
Or ride in my 8 second Chevy and the motorcycle feels like something to get around in...
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Originally Posted by Norse396
Or ride in my 8 second Chevy and the motorcycle feels like something to get around in...
Get around in, is probably right. I bet your 8 second Chevy doesn't "get around" a track like a bike. :P
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Originally Posted by OU Sig
those times are terriable and embarassing for this site!!! Did you floor it or were you driving like you do around town. Thats like a second slower than the 2nd generation TL-P....
yeah i floored it on the second run i tried accelarating a bit with my foot on the brake. did worse and got :tflamer: both runs

first against a RSX turbo
and then a Dodge SRT turbo / both of them ran 15.5's :chainsaw:
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hmmmm well if you learn how to drive your car you should be plesently surprised I hope. good luck with that and keep trying!
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