What are people paying for the base RLX?
What should I be able to get off MSRP?
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You could try truecar.com - sometimes its pricing is dubious but acura is heavily discounting them
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USAA is showing $42,716 (including destination fee) for the Base model in Northern Virginia.
And Advance is going for $49,380. Lowest price I've seen to date. |
For $6K more Adv is a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by miner
(Post 14937216)
For $6K more Adv is a no brainer.
so if rumor of 66K for hybrid is correct and expect no discounting on hybrid due to limited availability, would you pay 16K more for the hybrid? |
As much as I am intrigued with the SHAWD version, I am having a great time with my gasser version. Maybe when I get bored with my "Advance" I may look at a new one....Somehow I just can't get it into my head that when I accelerate I should hear a Varooom and not a Ssssss..
Probably an "Age " thing... |
Originally Posted by 2011TL
(Post 14937171)
And Advance is going for $49,380. Lowest price I've seen to date.
Edit: Truecar says $49723 for the Advance here in the land of Cleve. The dealer offering is not my usual dealer. What to do, what to do? :fluffy: Now I am REALLY tempted not just to lease, but to BUY at that price. I still think the likelihood is that eventually (in a year), the hybrid will not be at such a large price premium to the PAWS and it will become a good deal. The question is, will I hold out that long? |
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I'd have to agree with you Neuron...had the Advanced been at that price when I leased mine, I would have likely opted to buy as well. Tough call there my friend... |
I've driven both the RLX and a new ES350. Got to say for less money the Lexus is way better looking and feels like a real quality luxury car. The RLX is within a inch or so size wise but is disturbingly noisier on the road. To get a quiter ride, I would have to go with the top of the line RLX and then the cost is about $7k more then a similar ES350. I would love some input from current RLX owners that can point out what I'm missing? I'm going to the Acura dealer again on Friday for another look at the RLX, advise is welcome. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Pitbull11
(Post 14938148)
I've driven both the RLX and a new ES350. Got to say for less money the Lexus is way better looking and feels like a real quality luxury car. The RLX is within a inch or so size wise but is disturbingly noisier on the road. To get a quiter ride, I would have to go with the top of the line RLX and then the cost is about $7k more then a similar ES350. I would love some input from current RLX owners that can point out what I'm missing? I'm going to the Acura dealer again on Friday for another look at the RLX, advise is welcome. Thanks
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Very interesting...a new in-law I met in Florida last weekend that got to test drive my RLX said exactly the opposite about my RLX and his wife's ES350. Long story short he didn't have the heart to tell his wife that the RLX put his wife's ES350 to shame.
Aside from the obvious 310HP versus 268HP engine...there are lots of differences between the two cars. All you have to do is goto the websites and pull up the specs on both vehicles and you'll see the difference. The key here is you really need to be looking at the Advanced model. And as noted above already, assuming you can get it for the crazy prices that they are going for now, it's a real no brainer between the RLX Advanced and a supped up ES350. If you're heart is set on Lexus and you really want to compare vehicles, then I'd say the GS350/450 is more in line with what you're looking at with an RLX Advanced. But an ES350? No way... Regarding the comments on the "ride quality"...it is a known fact that the suspension on the RLX is very sensitive to the tire size and pressure. Make ABSOLUTELY SURE that if you are going to test drive an RLX at a dealer, that you make sure the TPS is set correctly on the demo vehicle. If you enjoy a smoother "softer" ride, then we've found that 32psi (cold) on all tires makes for the best experience on the 19' wheels. This usually equals out to about 35/36psi once the tires are warmed up from driving. I'm not sure about the 18' wheels. But again, you want to go for the Advanced model which comes standard with the 19' wheels. |
Originally Posted by holografique
(Post 14938669)
Very interesting...a new in-law I met in Florida last weekend that got to test drive my RLX said exactly the opposite about my RLX and his wife's ES350. Long story short he didn't have the heart to tell his wife that the RLX put his wife's ES350 to shame.
Aside from the obvious 310HP versus 268HP engine...there are lots of differences between the two cars. All you have to do is goto the websites and pull up the specs on both vehicles and you'll see the difference. The key here is you really need to be looking at the Advanced model. And as noted above already, assuming you can get it for the crazy prices that they are going for now, it's a real no brainer between the RLX Advanced and a supped up ES350. If you're heart is set on Lexus and you really want to compare vehicles, then I'd say the GS350/450 is more in line with what you're looking at with an RLX Advanced. But an ES350? No way... Regarding the comments on the "ride quality"...it is a known fact that the suspension on the RLX is very sensitive to the tire size and pressure. Make ABSOLUTELY SURE that if you are going to test drive an RLX at a dealer, that you make sure the TPS is set correctly on the demo vehicle. If you enjoy a smoother "softer" ride, then we've found that 32psi (cold) on all tires makes for the best experience on the 19' wheels. This usually equals out to about 35/36psi once the tires are warmed up from driving. I'm not sure about the 18' wheels. But again, you want to go for the Advanced model which comes standard with the 19' wheels. |
yea, you definitely don't get road noise with the Advanced RLX.
whichever route you take, good luck on your purchase! |
Actually, having driven both the Base w/Nav and a Tech package RLX, the 18" wheels on the lower model make the ride better than the 19s. Tires become rubber bands once you hit 19"+ wheel sizes.
Chris |
Originally Posted by neuronbob
(Post 14938000)
Wait, why am I waiting for the Sport Hybrid again? :what:
Edit: Truecar says $49723 for the Advance here in the land of Cleve. The dealer offering is not my usual dealer. What to do, what to do? :fluffy: Now I am REALLY tempted not just to lease, but to BUY at that price. I still think the likelihood is that eventually (in a year), the hybrid will not be at such a large price premium to the PAWS and it will become a good deal. The question is, will I hold out that long? Chris |
Originally Posted by CFoote
(Post 14939126)
Actually, having driven both the Base w/Nav and a Tech package RLX, the 18" wheels on the lower model make the ride better than the 19s. Tires become rubber bands once you hit 19"+ wheel sizes.
Chris I never tried the base models, but something tells me it's probably much closer to how my 3G TL felt. All I know is the ride is very nice on my RLX and only under certain road conditions can it get a bit excessive in noise/feel. Obviously this is one of those things that's going to be subjective to individual taste/tolerance. |
Originally Posted by neuronbob
(Post 14938000)
Wait, why am I waiting for the Sport Hybrid again? :what:
I'm clinging to the hope that in a year or so, there will be deals to be had on the SHAWD RLX as well. I live in a climate that all but demands AWD vehicles, so the FWD RLX isn't an option for me. Also, I am in love with the SHAWD technology from years of driving my RL and thus I'm just giddy with excitement over this latest hybrid incarnation. So, as soon as the AWD version arrives up here in Canada, I'll begin my search for a deal with the full expectation that it may take a year to find one. Oh well, maybe the 2016 version will offer up some even better goodies. Just my two cents on whether the wait is worth it - keep in mind that I'm an old school guy who pays cash for his cars and keeps them for a decade or so. Those who lease vehicles short term will have a completely different take on the subject. |
Originally Posted by holografique
(Post 14939165)
That's what I've heard from others here on the forum, although the OP is complaining that the RLX based with 18's has too much noise...? Hard to understand considering the RLX is the quietest car I have ever been in...ever.
I never tried the base models, but something tells me it's probably much closer to how my 3G TL felt. All I know is the ride is very nice on my RLX and only under certain road conditions can it get a bit excessive in noise/feel. Obviously this is one of those things that's going to be subjective to individual taste/tolerance. Chris |
Originally Posted by Pitbull11
(Post 14938148)
I've driven both the RLX and a new ES350. Got to say for less money the Lexus is way better looking and feels like a real quality luxury car. The RLX is within a inch or so size wise but is disturbingly noisier on the road. To get a quiter ride, I would have to go with the top of the line RLX and then the cost is about $7k more then a similar ES350. I would love some input from current RLX owners that can point out what I'm missing? I'm going to the Acura dealer again on Friday for another look at the RLX, advise is welcome. Thanks
The interior did nothing for me either...just didn't even come close to luxury for me..again subjective. Road noise...my tech RLX is way quieter than my other cars I have owned, so for me it fit the bill perfectly. Is it the quietest auto available?, most likely not, but I would not call it noisy by any stretch In the end, check out the cars you are interested in and choose the one you like the most. |
Didn't mean to sound like I was bashing the RLX in my previous post - it is a great car and it is still on my list of possibilities especially with the aggressive pricing. As a RLX/Tech and ES350 the way I want it optioned are pretty close to in price (with the RLX heavy discounts) I will test drive both thoroughly before deciding. The RLX I drove was the "Nav" version. I'm also looking at Hyundai Genesis R-Spec (those are being discounted heavily as well) and the new TLX when it arrives.
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The new TLX, optioned with V6 SH-AWD, will be close in price to a discounted RLX Adv. When they are introduced don't expect much discounting intially. The interior of the ES350 was just so-so to me - I looked at it as an upscaled Camry.
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Originally Posted by miner
(Post 14940811)
The interior of the ES350 was just so-so to me - I looked at it as an upscaled Camry.
The IS interior is nice, but once you get into the ES and higher, they move into this really bad attempt of blending sleek "futurism" with old world "elegance" and for me it just comes off really bad. The overall "flat" straight dashboard design, and the horrible analog clock are just some of the nuances that throw me off with Lexus interior design styling. Whereas I love how the RLX dashboard has really nice curves and flows with the navigation/entertainment system coming outward some to break up the design flow and make it more accessible to the driver. the RLX interior for me is where they excelled most in the car with it's great balance between sleek modern and minimal sophistication with very high quality workmanship. It carries this essence of modern efficiency with the added luxury that I believe is a big part of how Acura wants to continue branding and imaging itself. I look forward to seeing how this carries over into the TLX. |
Originally Posted by Oswald Vater
(Post 14940462)
Didn't mean to sound like I was bashing the RLX in my previous post - it is a great car and it is still on my list of possibilities especially with the aggressive pricing. As a RLX/Tech and ES350 the way I want it optioned are pretty close to in price (with the RLX heavy discounts) I will test drive both thoroughly before deciding. The RLX I drove was the "Nav" version. I'm also looking at Hyundai Genesis R-Spec (those are being discounted heavily as well) and the new TLX when it arrives.
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I did..I thought the car drove great..The power was way more than adequate.
But in my opinion, parts of the interior suffered from a lack of quality. The buttons felt cheap and the plastic bezel around the center stack reminded me of the gray plastic used in a 1980's boom-box. Most everything else about the car was acceptable for the price point, but I just felt the cheapness I perceived would bother me every time I got in the car. |
Originally Posted by scv76
(Post 14941671)
I did..I thought the car drove great..The power was way more than adequate.
But in my opinion, parts of the interior suffered from a lack of quality. The buttons felt cheap and the plastic bezel around the center stack reminded me of the gray plastic used in a 1980's boom-box. Most everything else about the car was acceptable for the price point, but I just felt the cheapness I perceived would bother me every time I got in the car. |
Originally Posted by Pitbull11
(Post 14941696)
Thanks guess the Gs350 might be better choice.
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Thanks, I'll do the same. My wife thinks I would not be happy with anything but the high end badge :)
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Oswald, if you don't mind please post your test drive thoughts on the Genesis. You are talking about the new 2015 model, right?
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Oswald,
I believe the Hyundei's with the longer warranty and 100K engine protection duely require the owner to vigoriously follow the maintenance schedule which reuire TB/WP replacment at 60K and thereafter. A coworkers 2011 Genesis was denied claim (engine over heating) due to not having required proof of scheduled maintenance. Looking fwd to your thoughts onve you test drive. |
Does Acura build many base rlx's? I have yet to see any on any dealers inventory around me.
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Originally Posted by CFoote
(Post 14942548)
Oswald, if you don't mind please post your test drive thoughts on the Genesis. You are talking about the new 2015 model, right?
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Originally Posted by miner
(Post 14942630)
Oswald,
I believe the Hyundei's with the longer warranty and 100K engine protection duely require the owner to vigoriously follow the maintenance schedule which reuire TB/WP replacment at 60K and thereafter. A coworkers 2011 Genesis was denied claim (engine over heating) due to not having required proof of scheduled maintenance. Looking fwd to your thoughts onve you test drive. |
Originally Posted by JTRADAR61
(Post 14943016)
Does Acura build many base rlx's? I have yet to see any on any dealers inventory around me.
Every time I have to pass somebody on a secondary road, I am startled at how quickly the car moves out. I'll start at 45 mph and intend to get up to 55-60 mph, but discover that I am very often at 90 mph before I know it. They've done a lot right with this car, and it's too bad that they've done little things or left little things that potential purchasers can focus on when compared to other makes. For my locality, the Consumer Reports buying service is saying 49.5 for the RLX Advance. 0_0 |
Originally Posted by George Knighton
(Post 14943674)
They don't build many RLX's, period, and they're still sitting around. I am still puzzled, because at the discounted prices, and for all our bitching, this is an extraordinary car.
Every time I have to pass somebody on a secondary road, I am startled at how quickly the car moves out. I'll start at 45 mph and intend to get up to 55-60 mph, but discover that I am very often at 90 mph before I know it. They've done a lot right with this car, and it's too bad that they've done little things or left little things that potential purchasers can focus on when compared to other makes. For my locality, the Consumer Reports buying service is saying 49.5 for the RLX Advance. 0_0 |
george/neuronbob, I think it woukd be great for us to create a sticky post that we can use to capture a comprehensive list of all the things we think would really help excel the RLX to the next step in an MMC or future updates. If anyone from Acura with the power to do anything is here lurking, it would help provide a concise list of gripes, recommendations, etc.
Ive posted a list on here before, but its buried away at this point. |
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I can assure you that Acura reps are lurking based on personal past experience. They rarely make themselves known, though. Might be worth a sticky if we can get enough responses. What say others? Back on topic.... Urrrrrrrrgh......must.....wait.....for......hybrid .....urrrrrrgh...... |
Originally Posted by neuronbob
(Post 14943812)
^^^^^^
I can assure you that Acura reps are lurking based on personal past experience. They rarely make themselves known, though. Might be worth a sticky if we can get enough responses. What say others? Back on topic.... Urrrrrrrrgh......must.....wait.....for......hybrid .....urrrrrrgh...... I hear you on the hybrid... so frustrating. |
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