Sport Hybrid RLX reviews upcoming
12-03-2013, 02:00 PM
#1
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Sport Hybrid RLX reviews upcoming
So says Jeff at the Temple of VTEC, who is driving one shortly. Press event is apparently not embargoed so we should start hearing about driving impressions soon.
http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...mber=1#1171484
http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...mber=1#1171484
12-03-2013, 06:32 PM
#3
Burning Brakes
I'm sure it will be a 0-60 time in something under 5.4 seconds. Incredible handling. Hopefully better steering feel and braking performance.
Things I don't like about the hybrid RLX is the push button shifter. Sometimes I like to rest my hand on the shifter while driving. Now it just gets to dangle there.
Things I don't like about the hybrid RLX is the push button shifter. Sometimes I like to rest my hand on the shifter while driving. Now it just gets to dangle there.
12-03-2013, 07:06 PM
#4
Three Wheelin'
Sadly, you are probably right. No matter how exceptional the new SHAWD system is, the haters will still bash the styling, sales history and pricing of the RLX. That said, I am still very anxious to read some quantitative numbers on the RLX SHAWD.
12-03-2013, 07:13 PM
#5
Three Wheelin'
I'm sure it will be a 0-60 time in something under 5.4 seconds. Incredible handling. Hopefully better steering feel and braking performance.
Things I don't like about the hybrid RLX is the push button shifter. Sometimes I like to rest my hand on the shifter while driving. Now it just gets to dangle there.
Things I don't like about the hybrid RLX is the push button shifter. Sometimes I like to rest my hand on the shifter while driving. Now it just gets to dangle there.
12-03-2013, 08:23 PM
#6
6G TLX-S
I'm sure it will be a 0-60 time in something under 5.4 seconds. Incredible handling. Hopefully better steering feel and braking performance.
Things I don't like about the hybrid RLX is the push button shifter. Sometimes I like to rest my hand on the shifter while driving. Now it just gets to dangle there.
Things I don't like about the hybrid RLX is the push button shifter. Sometimes I like to rest my hand on the shifter while driving. Now it just gets to dangle there.
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12-04-2013, 12:36 PM
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Our 1st RLX-SH press drives begin today, from @FSSanFrancisco to @NicksCove. Follow #RLXHybridAWD for coverage. pic.twitter.com/tKfojeAVgo
12-04-2013, 02:52 PM
#9
Cajun Gumbo Man
I bought new a 2001 Acura CL "TYPE S" which had 0-60 times in the upper 5.x.....so this will probably be more or the same...can anyone fetch these numbers off the internet to confirm? Anyone here that owned one knew it was quite fast but as we know the 3 gear design was a time bomb thus the ONLY reason I got rid of her.....
12-04-2013, 02:56 PM
#10
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James Riswick
#RLXHybridAWD drive lunch stop at Nick's Cove. Very impressed by Sport Hybrid Super Handling All-Wheel Drive.
12-04-2013, 03:48 PM
#11
none of the rags have performance data yet?
12-04-2013, 04:13 PM
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None. I've looked. Maybe TSX69 can find said info, but to my knowledge it's not available yet.
12-04-2013, 04:19 PM
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Cajun Gumbo Man
can you guys be a bit more specific? 
12-04-2013, 05:21 PM
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A few mags clocked the RLX FWD from 0-60mph in 5.8s. With an extra 67hp, 100lbft of torque, and AWD system, it's safe to save the RLX AWD will be at least as fast.
12-04-2013, 05:29 PM
#15
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This is so beautiful, words can't describe it's beauty. 😍😍😍 #RLXHybridAWD #AcuraStories @Acura_Insider
12-04-2013, 05:32 PM
#16
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Where the power is going, where it's coming from shown in HUD. #RLXHybridAWD
12-04-2013, 06:08 PM
#17
I have good news!
DCR over at TOV posted this:
DCR wrote:
A bit faster, turns a bit better, way more expensive.
There is my review.
Jeff replied with:
Wrong x 3
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So I guess good news is coming!
DCR over at TOV posted this:
DCR wrote:
A bit faster, turns a bit better, way more expensive.
There is my review.
Jeff replied with:
Wrong x 3
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So I guess good news is coming!
12-04-2013, 07:05 PM
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Where the power is going, where it's coming from shown in HUD. #RLXHybridAWD
12-04-2013, 07:19 PM
#19
Drifting
Thanks for posting. It's always better, I've found, to get reviews from someone who has actually driven the car, as opposed to getting unsubstantiated, preconceived opinions from a hater. Looking forward to seeing Jeff's (and others') opinions.
12-04-2013, 07:27 PM
#20
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Jeff's Words
Jeff @ TOV:
I had a longer response than my above post, but my iPad was being stupid on the way back and just stopped letting me type anything for whatever reason.
To expand upon my "wrong x 3" I think saying it's a "bit" faster is understating things. Thanks to the extra traction AND the ~100hp boost AND instantaneous delivery of the extra electric help, it jumps like a scalded cat out of the hole. The rear electric motors stop assisting at around 80mph but up to that point it pulls pleasingly hard. I would say a 5.0 0-60 wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't surprise me if we see numbers below 5.0.
As for the "turns a bit better", I'm not sure I fully agree with that. It actually feels similar to the P-AWS model in terms of its abilities, except you can get into the throttle sooner on turn exit. And you can turn off the VSA and push through initial understeer to effect a little bit of tail out action on some turns. But overall turn in may be a little bit duller than the P-AWS model. It feels a little bit more synthetic in how it drives than the P-AWS model - you can sense the rear moving around but for some reason to me it doesn't feel as smooth or natural feeling as the P-AWS model. But, like the P-AWS model, it will take corners FAST. Acura had a GS450h and an Audi A6 3.0t for comparison. Both of those had better inherent chassis feel than the RLX Sport Hybrid. But the RLX's engine and transmission were, to me at least, much, much better. The GS450h really had a wonderful chassis feel, and I credit the Lexus engineers for that. And given the right circumstances, the powertrain moved it pretty swiftly, but it wasn't hard to catch it flat, and then you'd have to wait on the power. And I just didn't like the GS450h's powertrain at all. The A6 was a tiny bit behind in terms of overall chassis feel, though probably had the best steering feel of the three. The 3.0T was pretty potent, but neither the Lexus nor the Audi had the juice or responsiveness that the RLX Sport Hybrid's powertrain offered.
And on the final point, it sounds like the Sport Hybrid will carry less than a 10% premium over the regular RLX P-AWS model. While they haven't announced final pricing numbers, the indications seem to be that it will top out at around $66k for the RLX Sport Hybrid Advance model, which is only around $5k more than the RLX P-AWS Advance. For comparison, the GS350h with similar equipment (and no AWD) goes for over $74k. And the Audi 3.0T is about $70k.
To expand upon my "wrong x 3" I think saying it's a "bit" faster is understating things. Thanks to the extra traction AND the ~100hp boost AND instantaneous delivery of the extra electric help, it jumps like a scalded cat out of the hole. The rear electric motors stop assisting at around 80mph but up to that point it pulls pleasingly hard. I would say a 5.0 0-60 wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't surprise me if we see numbers below 5.0.
As for the "turns a bit better", I'm not sure I fully agree with that. It actually feels similar to the P-AWS model in terms of its abilities, except you can get into the throttle sooner on turn exit. And you can turn off the VSA and push through initial understeer to effect a little bit of tail out action on some turns. But overall turn in may be a little bit duller than the P-AWS model. It feels a little bit more synthetic in how it drives than the P-AWS model - you can sense the rear moving around but for some reason to me it doesn't feel as smooth or natural feeling as the P-AWS model. But, like the P-AWS model, it will take corners FAST. Acura had a GS450h and an Audi A6 3.0t for comparison. Both of those had better inherent chassis feel than the RLX Sport Hybrid. But the RLX's engine and transmission were, to me at least, much, much better. The GS450h really had a wonderful chassis feel, and I credit the Lexus engineers for that. And given the right circumstances, the powertrain moved it pretty swiftly, but it wasn't hard to catch it flat, and then you'd have to wait on the power. And I just didn't like the GS450h's powertrain at all. The A6 was a tiny bit behind in terms of overall chassis feel, though probably had the best steering feel of the three. The 3.0T was pretty potent, but neither the Lexus nor the Audi had the juice or responsiveness that the RLX Sport Hybrid's powertrain offered.
And on the final point, it sounds like the Sport Hybrid will carry less than a 10% premium over the regular RLX P-AWS model. While they haven't announced final pricing numbers, the indications seem to be that it will top out at around $66k for the RLX Sport Hybrid Advance model, which is only around $5k more than the RLX P-AWS Advance. For comparison, the GS350h with similar equipment (and no AWD) goes for over $74k. And the Audi 3.0T is about $70k.
12-04-2013, 07:51 PM
#21
Burning Brakes
That means the NSX best move it's ass to the 60 mark in under 4 seconds. 3.2 seconds sounds good.
12-04-2013, 08:02 PM
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TOV Vid
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12-04-2013, 08:04 PM
#24
Burning Brakes
Just seen it else where (Acurazine).
Am I really counting about 6 seconds?
Please be a slow updating HUD.
I think the gear shifts are too close together. It's changing gears more then it's changing speed (Why I hate close ratio).
Where is that 377HP and 377lb-ft? Has the RLX Hybrid gained 500lbs? :/
Am I really counting about 6 seconds?
Please be a slow updating HUD.
I think the gear shifts are too close together. It's changing gears more then it's changing speed (Why I hate close ratio).
Where is that 377HP and 377lb-ft? Has the RLX Hybrid gained 500lbs? :/
12-04-2013, 08:22 PM
#25
Just seen it else where (Acurazine).
Am I really counting about 6 seconds?
Please be a slow updating HUD.
I think the gear shifts are too close together. It's changing gears more then it's changing speed (Why I hate close ratio).
Where is that 377HP and 377lb-ft? Has the RLX Hybrid gained 500lbs? :/
Am I really counting about 6 seconds?
Please be a slow updating HUD.
I think the gear shifts are too close together. It's changing gears more then it's changing speed (Why I hate close ratio).
Where is that 377HP and 377lb-ft? Has the RLX Hybrid gained 500lbs? :/
12-04-2013, 08:57 PM
#29
Drifting
If the RLX Sport Hybrid is as good as it is (I believe it is, given Jeff's very positive review!) then it was Acura's biggest mistake to have brought out the P-AWS model so early. That was a huge strategic mistake. Now, if the RLX looked super hot to start with, that would have been a different story.... but it was not.
I actually now look forward to test driving the RLX Sport Hybrid! Maybe it could be on my shopping list now!?
I actually now look forward to test driving the RLX Sport Hybrid! Maybe it could be on my shopping list now!?
12-04-2013, 11:25 PM
#31
6G TLX-S
12-05-2013, 07:05 PM
#32
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Jeff @ TOV:
I had a longer response than my above post, but my iPad was being stupid on the way back and just stopped letting me type anything for whatever reason.
To expand upon my "wrong x 3" I think saying it's a "bit" faster is understating things. Thanks to the extra traction AND the ~100hp boost AND instantaneous delivery of the extra electric help, it jumps like a scalded cat out of the hole. The rear electric motors stop assisting at around 80mph but up to that point it pulls pleasingly hard. I would say a 5.0 0-60 wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't surprise me if we see numbers below 5.0.
As for the "turns a bit better", I'm not sure I fully agree with that. It actually feels similar to the P-AWS model in terms of its abilities, except you can get into the throttle sooner on turn exit. And you can turn off the VSA and push through initial understeer to effect a little bit of tail out action on some turns. But overall turn in may be a little bit duller than the P-AWS model. It feels a little bit more synthetic in how it drives than the P-AWS model - you can sense the rear moving around but for some reason to me it doesn't feel as smooth or natural feeling as the P-AWS model. But, like the P-AWS model, it will take corners FAST. Acura had a GS450h and an Audi A6 3.0t for comparison. Both of those had better inherent chassis feel than the RLX Sport Hybrid. But the RLX's engine and transmission were, to me at least, much, much better. The GS450h really had a wonderful chassis feel, and I credit the Lexus engineers for that. And given the right circumstances, the powertrain moved it pretty swiftly, but it wasn't hard to catch it flat, and then you'd have to wait on the power. And I just didn't like the GS450h's powertrain at all. The A6 was a tiny bit behind in terms of overall chassis feel, though probably had the best steering feel of the three. The 3.0T was pretty potent, but neither the Lexus nor the Audi had the juice or responsiveness that the RLX Sport Hybrid's powertrain offered.
And on the final point, it sounds like the Sport Hybrid will carry less than a 10% premium over the regular RLX P-AWS model. While they haven't announced final pricing numbers, the indications seem to be that it will top out at around $66k for the RLX Sport Hybrid Advance model, which is only around $5k more than the RLX P-AWS Advance. For comparison, the GS350h with similar equipment (and no AWD) goes for over $74k. And the Audi 3.0T is about $70k.
To expand upon my "wrong x 3" I think saying it's a "bit" faster is understating things. Thanks to the extra traction AND the ~100hp boost AND instantaneous delivery of the extra electric help, it jumps like a scalded cat out of the hole. The rear electric motors stop assisting at around 80mph but up to that point it pulls pleasingly hard. I would say a 5.0 0-60 wouldn't surprise me. And it wouldn't surprise me if we see numbers below 5.0.
As for the "turns a bit better", I'm not sure I fully agree with that. It actually feels similar to the P-AWS model in terms of its abilities, except you can get into the throttle sooner on turn exit. And you can turn off the VSA and push through initial understeer to effect a little bit of tail out action on some turns. But overall turn in may be a little bit duller than the P-AWS model. It feels a little bit more synthetic in how it drives than the P-AWS model - you can sense the rear moving around but for some reason to me it doesn't feel as smooth or natural feeling as the P-AWS model. But, like the P-AWS model, it will take corners FAST. Acura had a GS450h and an Audi A6 3.0t for comparison. Both of those had better inherent chassis feel than the RLX Sport Hybrid. But the RLX's engine and transmission were, to me at least, much, much better. The GS450h really had a wonderful chassis feel, and I credit the Lexus engineers for that. And given the right circumstances, the powertrain moved it pretty swiftly, but it wasn't hard to catch it flat, and then you'd have to wait on the power. And I just didn't like the GS450h's powertrain at all. The A6 was a tiny bit behind in terms of overall chassis feel, though probably had the best steering feel of the three. The 3.0T was pretty potent, but neither the Lexus nor the Audi had the juice or responsiveness that the RLX Sport Hybrid's powertrain offered.
And on the final point, it sounds like the Sport Hybrid will carry less than a 10% premium over the regular RLX P-AWS model. While they haven't announced final pricing numbers, the indications seem to be that it will top out at around $66k for the RLX Sport Hybrid Advance model, which is only around $5k more than the RLX P-AWS Advance. For comparison, the GS350h with similar equipment (and no AWD) goes for over $74k. And the Audi 3.0T is about $70k.
If that pricing sticks, this could be my next car.
12-06-2013, 03:44 PM
#35
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Exactly. I want to SEE those quad exhausts and if I actually leased one, I'd immediately change out the wheels. Those wheels are gawdawful ugly to me. This car seriously needs a nice set of five-spoke wheels as an option.
12-06-2013, 03:45 PM
#36
The objective measures have never really been the biggest problem with the RL or RLX. It is the lack of subjective things that Acura continues to struggle with. Hopefully the RLX Hybrid addresses a few of those subjective problems along with offering even more objective performance.
12-10-2013, 12:49 PM
#37
Motortrend Review
Checked the MotorTrend Iphone App this morning and they had a 1st drive review for the RLX Hybrid. It says the 0-60 time felt like mid to high 4s, but you will have to wait for the more in depth instrument tests as the car gets closer to launch. It was very positive overall
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12-10-2013, 06:45 PM
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Sport Hybrid reviews start here, in the RLX reviews thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...875410&page=21
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...875410&page=21
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