So who's trading out for a TLX Type S?
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you are sitting on a gold mine with that thing.
Don't forget I said I wanted a crack at buying it IF you ever do.
I'm probably one of the only ones that remembers saying it and actually would follow up if you do.
Although with prices the way they are and the fact that it's blue and manual...you'll be able to get 100K for it.
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I'm too frugal to cash in my daughter's college fund for that...but still, let me know just in case please.
Also, the only wagon for me is 20 years old, starts with an E and ends in a 320. Everyone in my house hates it so
I KNOW it's a keeper.
Also, the only wagon for me is 20 years old, starts with an E and ends in a 320. Everyone in my house hates it so
I KNOW it's a keeper.
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I was offered $15,000 today to give up my allocation to the person behind me in line! I did not take it, but that is crazy right? I'm very lucky to have mine in the hopper as they say. No idea yet on when my build will be ready to submit into the GM system so I am at least 4 months out from now. I'm still thinking it will be summer time before I am destroying the planet with 10 mpg fun. In the meantime our MDX is running great getting about 28 mpg generally and the Volvo is unbelievable since we are only doing local driving of late. So far I'm at 412 miles on this tank of fuel and have not moved off the full mark. It has been 95% EV running over the last 4 weeks. We are taking a 500 mile round trip this weekend so that will return us around 30 mpg for that portion of the fuel usage. Plug in hybrids are cool. Wish Acura made one.
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I had the first iteration of their eco engine with the T4 2.0T in my old V60 and that was the ONLY car I have ever been able to consistently break
35mpg on.
$15 fucking grand...
lord, do you know how many other shitboxes I could buy with that!?!?!?
35mpg on.
$15 fucking grand...
lord, do you know how many other shitboxes I could buy with that!?!?!?
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Bob...
you are sitting on a gold mine with that thing.
Don't forget I said I wanted a crack at buying it IF you ever do.
I'm probably one of the only ones that remembers saying it and actually would follow up if you do.
Although with prices the way they are and the fact that it's blue and manual...you'll be able to get 100K for it.
you are sitting on a gold mine with that thing.
Don't forget I said I wanted a crack at buying it IF you ever do.
I'm probably one of the only ones that remembers saying it and actually would follow up if you do.
Although with prices the way they are and the fact that it's blue and manual...you'll be able to get 100K for it.
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@neuronbob You are the prime example when people ask if I want to sell mine...
I'm like, NOPE...made that mistake once.
I will eventually put a turbo on it...here in FL there aren't enough curvy roads to make it
pleasurable for daily purposes. Although EVERY time I drive it I'm like, NOPE, not selling.
I'm like, NOPE...made that mistake once.
I will eventually put a turbo on it...here in FL there aren't enough curvy roads to make it
pleasurable for daily purposes. Although EVERY time I drive it I'm like, NOPE, not selling.
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I remember! But my V wagon is not leaving me anytime soon, mostly because a) I love it, and b) I actually use it, and can't think of what would replace it in my stable. Selling it would be an error of the same magnitude of selling my S2000. Speaking of which, I'm actively looking for S2000s (probably AP2 this time) and will probably buy when prices go down during the winter, as they always do.
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wow that's insane, that guy must be a collector to want to shell out that kind of premium. the dealer was allowed to give him your contact information openly?
NB - my neighbor has a college roommate that toys around with selling his. was as pristine as yours. when he is ready to sell, i will let you know. i gave him my cell phone number this weekend.
NB - my neighbor has a college roommate that toys around with selling his. was as pristine as yours. when he is ready to sell, i will let you know. i gave him my cell phone number this weekend.
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It's a good car, but not $55k good, which its the main reason I've been thinking about the RLX as an alternate. If this is going to be Acura's new flagship sedan it needs a bit more oomph (and interior space) to justify the price, mpg and marketing hype. With the TLX taking the reigns of flagship sedan, you gotta wonder if a turbo hybrid iteration is in the pipeline at refresh time... there's definitely no shortage of space under that hood for some battery packs.
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So my car was in for a wheel alignment and oil change, I didnt want to wait so I opted for a loaner. My local dealer is decent they always try to match the level of car so in the past I’ve been given the PAWS model (which underwhelms me). But this time I got the new TLX SH-AWD (non type S obviously).
I have to give kudos to Acura for stepping it up. Certain interior bits were definitely better than in our RLX. The metal trim had texture and felt high end. The sculpted steering wheel felt so natural in my hands. I felt the plastics were high quality and better than certain bits in the RLX.
But that was where it ended. the only other area where it felt better was the suspension, but only because the RLX is so boaty. I immediately noticed how much better our seats were, for example, when I switched back to my RLX. I missed our HUD badly, I grudgingly got used to doing quick up and downs at the tachometer in the TLX. Missed our birds eye view camera. To my surprise the TLX had similar hood bulges so the view out front felt familiar but I swear I could feel the front overhang of the TLX being worse. I really had to pay close attention with parking since I didnt want to dent the rental and it didn’t have the 360 camera to help with parking.
I still don’t feel like Acura has gotten it right with the infotainment system. It didnt feel any more or less intuitive than the much maligned setup in our RLX. The touchpad wasn’t a game changer like the press had made it out to be. The sound system still isn’t a match for the Krell IMO.
Im fully aware the two aren’t in the same class, so I don’t expect halo car treatment for the TLX. I am rather pleasantly surprised at how advanced the RLX was within the Acura family to be able to stay competitive against newer offerings. It really is a shame Acura never upgraded the infotainment system to accommodate carplay and spruce up the interior with finer materials in the RLX.
I have to give kudos to Acura for stepping it up. Certain interior bits were definitely better than in our RLX. The metal trim had texture and felt high end. The sculpted steering wheel felt so natural in my hands. I felt the plastics were high quality and better than certain bits in the RLX.
But that was where it ended. the only other area where it felt better was the suspension, but only because the RLX is so boaty. I immediately noticed how much better our seats were, for example, when I switched back to my RLX. I missed our HUD badly, I grudgingly got used to doing quick up and downs at the tachometer in the TLX. Missed our birds eye view camera. To my surprise the TLX had similar hood bulges so the view out front felt familiar but I swear I could feel the front overhang of the TLX being worse. I really had to pay close attention with parking since I didnt want to dent the rental and it didn’t have the 360 camera to help with parking.
I still don’t feel like Acura has gotten it right with the infotainment system. It didnt feel any more or less intuitive than the much maligned setup in our RLX. The touchpad wasn’t a game changer like the press had made it out to be. The sound system still isn’t a match for the Krell IMO.
Im fully aware the two aren’t in the same class, so I don’t expect halo car treatment for the TLX. I am rather pleasantly surprised at how advanced the RLX was within the Acura family to be able to stay competitive against newer offerings. It really is a shame Acura never upgraded the infotainment system to accommodate carplay and spruce up the interior with finer materials in the RLX.
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0Interesting. If you want a stiffer suspension, you could swap components from a 2014-2015. I believe the suspension is stiffer. How did the transmission feel in the TLX? The only bad thing I can say about the RLX is that the transmission does not disengage at low speeds like the 04' and 05' RLs in my household. This causes the car to feel not nearly as nice from 10-18 mph. Even with VCM disabled, it does not coast as nicely as the other two.
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Realistically, Acura shouldn't have given up on the RLX mid-stream. They did the exterior update and forgot about the interior. Acura at a minimum should have added to the +18 RLX Sport Hybrid:
- the 4 IDS levels (Comfort, Normal, Sport, Sport+)
- electronic dampers with Comfort and Sport modes
- updated info-tainment graphics like the +18 MDX
- Carplay
- real wood trim
- sportier front seats
- the 4 IDS levels (Comfort, Normal, Sport, Sport+)
- electronic dampers with Comfort and Sport modes
- updated info-tainment graphics like the +18 MDX
- Carplay
- real wood trim
- sportier front seats
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0Interesting. If you want a stiffer suspension, you could swap components from a 2014-2015. I believe the suspension is stiffer. How did the transmission feel in the TLX? The only bad thing I can say about the RLX is that the transmission does not disengage at low speeds like the 04' and 05' RLs in my household. This causes the car to feel not nearly as nice from 10-18 mph. Even with VCM disabled, it does not coast as nicely as the other two.
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After a night of thinking about it, not me, at least not for the immediate future. I posted some thoughts about the Type S, which I finally test drove yesterday. Link is below.
https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...oughts-995816/
My preferred dealer asked a week ago if I was interested in taking one of their upcoming build slots, so I had to find a dealer still offering test drives.
I just wanted to post some RLX-specific thoughts here. I waited for this car so long that I ended up in a RLX SH instead, because of the wait. In honesty, had I not experienced the RLX SH again, I'd probably be in line for a TLX Type S. Luckily, I did find my current RLX.
The biggest issue for me is that for the $43k I bought my essentially new RLX SH, the features are better than what I could get for a TLX Type S at $53-55k. No 360 degree cameras, heated steering wheel (though can be dealer-installed), HUD, limo-sized back seat. The TLX Type S has going for it the adaptive suspension and excellent mechanical SH-AWD-based handling, and more/better configured trunk space. Having now added a Grom VLine unit, infotainment is a wash, and I prefer using the jog dial to the new True Touch interface to control CarPlay. I'd prefer a touch screen to both, but you get what you get here.
The fit and finish of the RLX remains far superior to the TLX. Lots of hard surfaces in the TLX, though primarily areas that aren't touched often. The RLX has leather in all those non-touch spaces.
Handling is quite obviously different, as you would expect. eSH-AWD is trumped by mechanical SH-AWD every time. It takes less steering angle to activate the rear wheels. Suspension is softer, though in Comfort mode in the TLX, it comes close.
Straight line acceleration is pretty close between the Type S and the RLX SH, set to Sport mode. The TLX sounds awesome accelerating, though.
Bottom line, a used 2020 RLX SH vs a TLX Type S...used RLX wins on value and features for the money, rear seat room, and overall quality. Type S wins on handling. People keep talking about acceleration numbers...the Type S is a perfect example of a car in which the numbers don't necessarily tell the whole tale of the car. It's pretty sweet. If Acura adds all the Advance features to the Type S at the MMC, then I'll likely be a candidate.
https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...oughts-995816/
My preferred dealer asked a week ago if I was interested in taking one of their upcoming build slots, so I had to find a dealer still offering test drives.
I just wanted to post some RLX-specific thoughts here. I waited for this car so long that I ended up in a RLX SH instead, because of the wait. In honesty, had I not experienced the RLX SH again, I'd probably be in line for a TLX Type S. Luckily, I did find my current RLX.
The biggest issue for me is that for the $43k I bought my essentially new RLX SH, the features are better than what I could get for a TLX Type S at $53-55k. No 360 degree cameras, heated steering wheel (though can be dealer-installed), HUD, limo-sized back seat. The TLX Type S has going for it the adaptive suspension and excellent mechanical SH-AWD-based handling, and more/better configured trunk space. Having now added a Grom VLine unit, infotainment is a wash, and I prefer using the jog dial to the new True Touch interface to control CarPlay. I'd prefer a touch screen to both, but you get what you get here.
The fit and finish of the RLX remains far superior to the TLX. Lots of hard surfaces in the TLX, though primarily areas that aren't touched often. The RLX has leather in all those non-touch spaces.
Handling is quite obviously different, as you would expect. eSH-AWD is trumped by mechanical SH-AWD every time. It takes less steering angle to activate the rear wheels. Suspension is softer, though in Comfort mode in the TLX, it comes close.
Straight line acceleration is pretty close between the Type S and the RLX SH, set to Sport mode. The TLX sounds awesome accelerating, though.
Bottom line, a used 2020 RLX SH vs a TLX Type S...used RLX wins on value and features for the money, rear seat room, and overall quality. Type S wins on handling. People keep talking about acceleration numbers...the Type S is a perfect example of a car in which the numbers don't necessarily tell the whole tale of the car. It's pretty sweet. If Acura adds all the Advance features to the Type S at the MMC, then I'll likely be a candidate.
I tried a Type-S, loved how it drove but it was too small for my big arse. That and the infotainment system was insanely complicated compared to the RLX. So, I upgraded my '14 RLX to an '18 RLX Hybrid Advanced.
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0Interesting. If you want a stiffer suspension, you could swap components from a 2014-2015. I believe the suspension is stiffer. How did the transmission feel in the TLX? The only bad thing I can say about the RLX is that the transmission does not disengage at low speeds like the 04' and 05' RLs in my household. This causes the car to feel not nearly as nice from 10-18 mph. Even with VCM disabled, it does not coast as nicely as the other two.
You are correct. I had a '14 and it was like riding in a truck whereas the '18 Hybrid I have floats. I also prefer the transmission in my old '14 RLX than the '18. There are times the newer transmission wont shift gears downward and stays revved up around 5-6k rpm for too long before shifting (like 5-6 seconds with no foot on the throttle).
#58
Neat. I remember I kinda hated it when the car was new. I just turned double digits and I didn't like the car. At the time, the 04' was smooth in the right areas while still being stiff. The RLX when new was floaty in the wrong areas and was way to stiff for the horrible roads we had back then. However, over time the ride has gotten noticeably better and it is now a pleasure to drive and ride in. Major part of that was swapping the OEM Michelins when the majority of them blew out. We replaced them at the time with Westlake SA-07s (Chinese tire) and the car rode way better immediately. Now have Continental DWS-06s on the car and it is close to being perfect. The car drives better now then when new, even with 130K miles.
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