Certification vs Non Certified how is this possible just slap a cert warranty on?

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Old 04-07-2015, 06:19 PM
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Certification vs Non Certified how is this possible just slap a cert warranty on?

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Is a car at a acura Dealership and right now it is Non certified but the guy said he will certify it for $1500. I can understand adding an extended warranty to this and bringing it up to that price but if this guy is willing to certify it for $1500 can you count the condition as basically certification condition (without the warranty?) I thought these cars just came certified if they had low miles on them and in good shape and no wrecks etc? Is it worth them certifying it or just buy an extended warranty from them? I mean the guy feels confident that he can just slap a ceritifcation on it, it must be in good shape right?
Old 04-07-2015, 06:33 PM
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someone can wipe this msg off. If you look at the website they say it is certified so why add $1500 more?? also the guy that told me about the car said it was a tech package. There is no tech package if you call anyone else they say Nav only, if you click on the Great deal icon it shows it has tech but it doesn't.. I don't know why these car people lie so much just to get you to buy something
Old 04-07-2015, 07:57 PM
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I used my Owners.Acura.com account to look at the VIN. It is definitely a Nav package, not Tech or Advance.

Certified just means they did the standard Acura certification program and inspection. Here's the info:

Acura | Certified Pre-Owned Benefits | Acura.com

And some benefits of the Certified program:

Acura | Certified Pre-Owned Benefits | Acura.com

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Old 04-07-2015, 11:52 PM
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I wouldn't ascribe malevolence to the Navi/Tech issue when incompetence is more likely. The RLX Navi was pretty unique in recent Acura history, in pretty much every other instance of Navigation, it would be a Tech Package.
Old 04-08-2015, 10:44 AM
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This car is not actually Acura certified. It is just dealer certified which means nothing. Acura certified car ads must include a certain logo and it is usually listed on the carfax. This car does not have any kind of extra warranty from Acura. This is truly a scummy practice and I am not sure how dealers get away with it.

Here is the logo. If you don't see this you can pretty much bet it is not Acura CPO


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CPO usually doesn't mean squat. Just means you have a used car with some warranty from the manufacturer, that may or may not have been checked by a tech of questionable skill/attention.

Most times you can call the manufacturer and ask them to sell you that same warranty, and get a non-CPO cheaper.
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If you look at the Acura CPO checklist, it covers having the closest maintenance performed, worn tires replaced, making sure there are two remotes and a valet, new floor mats etc. Whether most customers check into this or whether dealers/techs are honest enough to do all of this not clear. If you can prove that something was not performed up to spec on the Acura CPO checklist then you can get Honda involved. If it is simply "dealer certified," no one to whine to but yourself.

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Old 04-08-2015, 04:03 PM
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We just had a VERY picky audit of our Acura CPO cars and practices. Is it possible that the initial confusion was because the car is a dealer certified, and the offer was to Acura certify for the extra $?
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Some dealers advertise their cars as certified without actually following the full process prescribed by the mfr. If they call it "Dealer Certified", they can get away with it (at least until the mfr slaps their hand).

REAL Certified Pre-Owned programs are generally well-run and worth the extra money. Good ones select their best off-lease and trade-in vehicles, based on mileage, general condition, repair history, maintenance, and a host of other considerations. Then they go through the vehicles from stem to stern and replace or repair anything that doesn't work or is worn beyond specific limits (such as brakes and tires).

The vehicle is serviced (oil and filter, air filters), and a multi-point inspection is performed to make sure all cables, etc. are up to snuff and everything is adjusted and lubricated.

After the mechanical things are all sorted out, the vehicle is sent to Detail, where the interior is shampooed, leather is cleaned and conditioned, floor mats are replaced, any broken, worn or missing knobs, trim, etc., are replaced, and the vehicle is completely washed and detailed in and out.

Then many dealers go over the car's exterior with a paintless dent repair specialist, and/or a professional touch-up person, to make all chips and other cosmetic defects disappear.

On top of that, an extended warranty is included.

The end result - if it's done right - is a car that looks, smells and drives like new. You virtually have to look at the odometer to know it's not. Doing all this work costs money, and the additional cost for a Certified Pre-Owned vehicle is usually worth it.

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Old 04-10-2015, 12:36 AM
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I believe that was one of the acura dealerships in Dallas, Vandegraff or goodson that had those cars. Both dealerships told me they had Tech when they had the Nav. Right now I am out of the car buying market atleast temporarly. I need another 10K so I can be in the mid 40's then I can get something better.
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